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Profile Evaluation Please [#permalink] New post 05 Sep 2012, 19:25
Hi, I would truly appreciate your input on my business school chances:

• 24 years old, Male, Indian American (born in US)
• Graduate of Lehigh University with a 3.56 GPA
• Majored in Finance within a Combined Business & Engineering Honors Program
o Extracurriculars: Student Senate (4 years), President of Dorm House Council (4 years), Selected Member of leadership development/volunteering 4-year program
• Since graduating in 3.5 years, have worked for almost 3 years as a consultant for a large IT services company;worked with Financial Services clients primarily in NYC; promoted to Senior Consultant in <2 years
• GMAT: 710, then 770 after ~5 months
• Career Paths: Not completely sure, possibly Brand Management/Marketing

Should I consider applying this year to Round 2 for top schools such as HBS, Stanford, Haas, Kellogg, Sloan (and any other schools you would recommend)?
Could you provide any detail on my potential chances of admission?
Also, would working longer or obtaining a job in a different field and applying later help my chances (I do not want to pursue a career in IT consulting)?

Thank you very much!
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Re: Profile Evaluation Please [#permalink] New post 07 Sep 2012, 18:10
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Hi Bostonite!

Your academic achievements are impressive, kudos!

Now lets take a look at your school choices.

Harvard and Stanford do not require you to have a detailed career plan post MBA, but Berkeley will expect that. In fact, when I last visited Haas for a chat with the Dean, I came to know that Berkeley actually frowns upon 730+ GMAT scores. I will not judge, but some people believe that a GMAT higher than 730 can come associated with subpar interpersonal skills, and for a school heavily focused on entrepreneurship and innovation, social skills are a must. Therefore, we need to find ways to counter argument this thesis.

Kellogg is definitely the school for you. We have several students who are there now, whose first choice was Kellogg and they are extremely happy for the same reasons you mention.

I would wait 2 more years to try for Harvard and Stanford, because even though these are very different schools, they expect similar levels of personal achievements and social involvement. We need to consider if you have these assets, or if its something you could build in the coming years. Therefore it would be wise to look at this in depth. You are young still, and must want a certain school for the right reasons, and not exclusively given its perceived brand. This is probably what Harvard and Stanford would think of you should you choose to apply now.

MIT is an innovative school in many senses, but its focus will always gear towards technology. Maybe you enjoy working with marketing IT products if so, you could be happy there, but I would wait at least one more year to apply.

You do not have to necessarily change sectors to improve your profile, but a new function within the industry is advisable. Maybe you are trying to run from the Indian IT stereotype, but you should embrace it instead. I say that from past experience. We have gotten hundreds of Indians into top business schools by having them flaunt their potential in leadership, team collaboration and strategy. You do not have to go to Wharton to work at an investment bank, nor go to MIT to work in technology. Whats important is to seek achievements within your work environment so it is proactive in the sense that you initiate the change rather than wait for it to happen in a different job. Remember: Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country. One of our recent MIT grads is today heading the marketing at Dior in Manhattan thanks to one of his professors who noticed he fit perfectly into the luxury market. The important thing is to discover your career aspirations and translate that into a compelling argument for the AdComs.

At MBA House we'll work on 5 school applications for the 2nd round and if you do not get in we will do it over for free until you get in.

Thanks for reading and feel free to get in touch to discuss this.
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Re: Profile Evaluation Please [#permalink] New post 11 Apr 2013, 18:55
I should have said this earlier, but thank you so much for taking the time to respond to my initial post. I did decide to apply to Round 2 for my top schools and do not regret gaining the experience of going through the entire process. Unfortunately, I did not have any luck in the application process. I applied to HBS, Stanford, MIT Sloan, Wharton, and Kellogg; outside of my required interview with Kellogg, I was denied without interview for all. I understand that I am shooting for extremely selective schools, but I am determined to attend a school at that level if I go to business school.

For each school, I provided a great (and true) story of my strong passion for the automotive industry and desire to pursue a career in marketing within it (story was slightly tailored to each school). Since it is such a significant change from my current job, the transition I explained may have been a potential missed area. In addition, I did not feel like I had that unique experience/characteristic that would provide a “wow” factor to admissions.

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- Academics and GMAT: I believe I have solid statistics (not really something I can change)
- Work Experience: I had about 2.7 years of work experience as a consultant, and am 24 years old. Compared to other applicants, this made me feel like an outlier slightly. I have received excellent reviews and was promoted; however, even though I was confident and satisfied with each application I submitted, the quality of the experience seemed inferior to other applicants.
- Essays: I was extremely happy with my essays, especially those for Kellogg, Wharton, and Stanford. I had others review them numerous times. My 2.7 years of work experience at the time may have provided me with less material than other applicants.
- Recommendations: Both my recommenders were previous supervisors that claimed to have written excellent letters. One was from a mid-tier b-school; the other did not have an MBA. I provided them with background information with my resume and gave some advice on b-school letters. I did not guide them further than that. One of my recommenders provided letters a day or two after the deadline for Wharton, Sloan, and HBS. My third recommender for HBS and Stanford was a longtime coworker with excellent writing skills that I have no doubt wrote an amazing letter.
- Interview: My only interview was with Kellogg. The interview went really well, I would give it an 8.5/10. Kellogg seemed like an amazing fit. My short career may have lessened the number of stories I could provide in my answers.
- Extracurriculars: My extracurriculars during college were excellent with multiple leadership roles. After graduating, I have done volunteering and other activities here and there, but nothing with a consistent time commitment.
---------------------------------------

Now I need to figure out where to go from here. Is there any reason at all to try again in Round 1 of this fall? If not, I would be aggressively seeking a new challenge for myself in a different field, as I do not feel I am growing nor have a strong passion for my current job. Is there a minimum number of years I should stay at that position if I still want to pursue an MBA? If was in a non-automotive or non-marketing field, or if my goals changed, would those negatively impact my reapplication?

Apologies for the long post, I just wanted to be as detailed as possible! Thank you again.
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Re: Profile Evaluation Please [#permalink] New post 11 Apr 2013, 21:39
Hi,

Many applicants have impression that a high GMAT score will increase their chances in b-schools. The adcoms judge the candidates based on application essays and interviews, which are integral part of application and cover 60%-65% of the process. So, you need to skilfully write application essays and showcase qualities like: ability to contribute in the classroom, ability to be a successful academically, management experience, evidence of career progression, evidence of professional behavior, logical connection between pre-MBA experience and post-MBA goals etc. You can have a quick view on essay analysis by clicking http://www.general-ed.com/mba-essay-analysis

Also, one should be realistic while shortlisting b-schools and do his/her research on school's curriculum or whether the target b-schools suits his/her profile etc.

Let me know in case of other queries you might have. You can PM your number to have a detail discussion and profile evaluation.

Cheers!!
Neha


Bostonite wrote:
I should have said this earlier, but thank you so much for taking the time to respond to my initial post. I did decide to apply to Round 2 for my top schools and do not regret gaining the experience of going through the entire process. Unfortunately, I did not have any luck in the application process. I applied to HBS, Stanford, MIT Sloan, Wharton, and Kellogg; outside of my required interview with Kellogg, I was denied without interview for all. I understand that I am shooting for extremely selective schools, but I am determined to attend a school at that level if I go to business school.

For each school, I provided a great (and true) story of my strong passion for the automotive industry and desire to pursue a career in marketing within it (story was slightly tailored to each school). Since it is such a significant change from my current job, the transition I explained may have been a potential missed area. In addition, I did not feel like I had that unique experience/characteristic that would provide a “wow” factor to admissions.

-----------------------------------------
- Academics and GMAT: I believe I have solid statistics (not really something I can change)
- Work Experience: I had about 2.7 years of work experience as a consultant, and am 24 years old. Compared to other applicants, this made me feel like an outlier slightly. I have received excellent reviews and was promoted; however, even though I was confident and satisfied with each application I submitted, the quality of the experience seemed inferior to other applicants.
- Essays: I was extremely happy with my essays, especially those for Kellogg, Wharton, and Stanford. I had others review them numerous times. My 2.7 years of work experience at the time may have provided me with less material than other applicants.
- Recommendations: Both my recommenders were previous supervisors that claimed to have written excellent letters. One was from a mid-tier b-school; the other did not have an MBA. I provided them with background information with my resume and gave some advice on b-school letters. I did not guide them further than that. One of my recommenders provided letters a day or two after the deadline for Wharton, Sloan, and HBS. My third recommender for HBS and Stanford was a longtime coworker with excellent writing skills that I have no doubt wrote an amazing letter.
- Interview: My only interview was with Kellogg. The interview went really well, I would give it an 8.5/10. Kellogg seemed like an amazing fit. My short career may have lessened the number of stories I could provide in my answers.
- Extracurriculars: My extracurriculars during college were excellent with multiple leadership roles. After graduating, I have done volunteering and other activities here and there, but nothing with a consistent time commitment.
---------------------------------------

Now I need to figure out where to go from here. Is there any reason at all to try again in Round 1 of this fall? If not, I would be aggressively seeking a new challenge for myself in a different field, as I do not feel I am growing nor have a strong passion for my current job. Is there a minimum number of years I should stay at that position if I still want to pursue an MBA? If was in a non-automotive or non-marketing field, or if my goals changed, would those negatively impact my reapplication?

Apologies for the long post, I just wanted to be as detailed as possible! Thank you again.

_________________

Best Wishes,
Neha Singh
GMAT Instructor & MBA Application Consultant
General Education- Empowering Intellect


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Re: Profile Evaluation Please [#permalink] New post 15 Apr 2013, 20:57
Hi,

Thanks for PM.
FYI you have disabled your username from PM reply.

Cheers!!
Neha

Bostonite wrote:
I should have said this earlier, but thank you so much for taking the time to respond to my initial post. I did decide to apply to Round 2 for my top schools and do not regret gaining the experience of going through the entire process. Unfortunately, I did not have any luck in the application process. I applied to HBS, Stanford, MIT Sloan, Wharton, and Kellogg; outside of my required interview with Kellogg, I was denied without interview for all. I understand that I am shooting for extremely selective schools, but I am determined to attend a school at that level if I go to business school.

For each school, I provided a great (and true) story of my strong passion for the automotive industry and desire to pursue a career in marketing within it (story was slightly tailored to each school). Since it is such a significant change from my current job, the transition I explained may have been a potential missed area. In addition, I did not feel like I had that unique experience/characteristic that would provide a “wow” factor to admissions.

-----------------------------------------
- Academics and GMAT: I believe I have solid statistics (not really something I can change)
- Work Experience: I had about 2.7 years of work experience as a consultant, and am 24 years old. Compared to other applicants, this made me feel like an outlier slightly. I have received excellent reviews and was promoted; however, even though I was confident and satisfied with each application I submitted, the quality of the experience seemed inferior to other applicants.
- Essays: I was extremely happy with my essays, especially those for Kellogg, Wharton, and Stanford. I had others review them numerous times. My 2.7 years of work experience at the time may have provided me with less material than other applicants.
- Recommendations: Both my recommenders were previous supervisors that claimed to have written excellent letters. One was from a mid-tier b-school; the other did not have an MBA. I provided them with background information with my resume and gave some advice on b-school letters. I did not guide them further than that. One of my recommenders provided letters a day or two after the deadline for Wharton, Sloan, and HBS. My third recommender for HBS and Stanford was a longtime coworker with excellent writing skills that I have no doubt wrote an amazing letter.
- Interview: My only interview was with Kellogg. The interview went really well, I would give it an 8.5/10. Kellogg seemed like an amazing fit. My short career may have lessened the number of stories I could provide in my answers.
- Extracurriculars: My extracurriculars during college were excellent with multiple leadership roles. After graduating, I have done volunteering and other activities here and there, but nothing with a consistent time commitment.
---------------------------------------

Now I need to figure out where to go from here. Is there any reason at all to try again in Round 1 of this fall? If not, I would be aggressively seeking a new challenge for myself in a different field, as I do not feel I am growing nor have a strong passion for my current job. Is there a minimum number of years I should stay at that position if I still want to pursue an MBA? If was in a non-automotive or non-marketing field, or if my goals changed, would those negatively impact my reapplication?

Apologies for the long post, I just wanted to be as detailed as possible! Thank you again.

_________________

Best Wishes,
Neha Singh
GMAT Instructor & MBA Application Consultant
General Education- Empowering Intellect


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Re: Profile Evaluation Please   [#permalink] 15 Apr 2013, 20:57
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