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Profile Evaluation Please - 23 y/o Male [#permalink] New post 17 Jan 2007, 08:47
Thank you so much Paul. The following is a bunch of info to help with your awesome guidance. Please, let me know if you would like any more info or if there are areas that you feel I’m lacking. It’s still a ways out so hopefully there is time to correct things.

WARNING: Sorry for this LONG message. I just figured more information is always better than less information in a case like this.

Applying: 2008 – 2010 class, can postpone if needed
Age: Currently 23, would be 24 at matriculation
GMAT: Took 10/2006 with half-ass studying and received a 580 :O My verbal was really high, but I was something like 37% with math. Yup… I thought an undergraduate engineering degree is all I needed for the math. In all my math classes at George Mason I received an A or A+, so it was quite a shock. I’ve just started the Manhattan GMAT program and my first initial GMATprep score was 640. Once I relearn the math basics, I expect to see at least a 680.

Education:
- Received a 2.7 in my first year of college at UCSB (stupid beach! Ok, so maybe it wasn’t the beaches fault…) in Computer Science.
- Took a great job opportunity and transferred to the east coast to George Mason (thank goodness for the recent NCAA run, otherwise no one would know this place) in IT. Received a 3.91 (Summa cum Laude) and graduated in the top 2% of engineering graduates, and the top 4% of all graduates.
- Certificate of Business Administration (completed in 2007) from Georgetown University. This is from the continuing education program but is taught by the full-time MBA faculty. Through this program, I have two great faculty contacts, including one who runs the continuing education program.
- Definitely would use a supplemental essay to explain how I essentially “woke upâ€
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Re: Profile Evaluation Please - 23 y/o Male [#permalink] New post 18 Jan 2007, 17:09
[quote="jsnooky33"]Thank you so much Paul. The following is a bunch of info to help with your awesome guidance. Please, let me know if you would like any more info or if there are areas that you feel I’m lacking. It’s still a ways out so hopefully there is time to correct things.

WARNING: Sorry for this LONG message. I just figured more information is always better than less information in a case like this.

Applying: 2008 – 2010 class, can postpone if needed
Age: Currently 23, would be 24 at matriculation
GMAT: Took 10/2006 with half-ass studying and received a 580 :O My verbal was really high, but I was something like 37% with math. Yup… I thought an undergraduate engineering degree is all I needed for the math. In all my math classes at George Mason I received an A or A+, so it was quite a shock. I’ve just started the Manhattan GMAT program and my first initial GMATprep score was 640. Once I relearn the math basics, I expect to see at least a 680.

Education:
- Received a 2.7 in my first year of college at UCSB (stupid beach! Ok, so maybe it wasn’t the beaches fault…) in Computer Science.
- Took a great job opportunity and transferred to the east coast to George Mason (thank goodness for the recent NCAA run, otherwise no one would know this place) in IT. Received a 3.91 (Summa cum Laude) and graduated in the top 2% of engineering graduates, and the top 4% of all graduates.
- Certificate of Business Administration (completed in 2007) from Georgetown University. This is from the continuing education program but is taught by the full-time MBA faculty. Through this program, I have two great faculty contacts, including one who runs the continuing education program.
- Definitely would use a supplemental essay to explain how I essentially “woke upâ€
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 [#permalink] New post 19 Jan 2007, 07:41
Thanks for the quick and comprehensive reponse.

I have one question about the work leadership/impact though. I'm by far the youngest person at my work besides our receptionist (the youngest person I know is 35). The government contracting work is usually a lot of retired agency people who use their connections to lead new projects/strategy. I have been the lead for many ideas at my job, but nothing COO or Director level. Most of these have also been tasks that required less than 3 people. Will the adcom take into consideration the older average age, and required government connections, of people in this industry?

The leadership/impact outside of work hit home though. I'm currently exploring some of the local D.C. volunteer organizations that would allow someone of my age to have leadership responsibility. If I can't find one, I'll probably start one (always have thought about it)!
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 [#permalink] New post 20 Jan 2007, 17:12
jsnooky33 wrote:
Thanks for the quick and comprehensive reponse.

I have one question about the work leadership/impact though. I'm by far the youngest person at my work besides our receptionist (the youngest person I know is 35). The government contracting work is usually a lot of retired agency people who use their connections to lead new projects/strategy. I have been the lead for many ideas at my job, but nothing COO or Director level. Most of these have also been tasks that required less than 3 people. Will the adcom take into consideration the older average age, and required government connections, of people in this industry?

The leadership/impact outside of work hit home though. I'm currently exploring some of the local D.C. volunteer organizations that would allow someone of my age to have leadership responsibility. If I can't find one, I'll probably start one (always have thought about it)!


jsnooky33,

The adcoms will certainly take colleagues' average age and industry connections etc. into account, but only if you draw their attention to these factors in your essays. You need to lay out all the evidence that you are fast-track and a "high-potential" achiever given your age.

I like to hear you say you might start a volunteer organization. That's the kind of thinking that can help you stand out.

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 [#permalink] New post 06 Feb 2007, 10:18
Hey Paul,

Sorry to bug you again. I would go bother someone else but you are the best! What are schools going to think when they see that my non-profit incorporated only 4-5 months before applying? I don't want them to think I only did it for b-school (b-school did motivate me on starting this sooner though).

I really want to make sure I do things right the first time, and would obviously like to maximize my chances at a top school. Assuming I get a 690+ GMAT, would you advise on waiting to apply for the 2009-2011 class? This would give me almost 1.5 years of running a non-profit and I could probably be a mid-level systems engineer (if I decide to go on a contract instead of staying in business development) by that time. Even though mid-level doesn't sound like much, it usually requires at least 5 years experience and our recruiter has yet to come across one who is in his or her 20s.

Looking around at schools the average age seems to be 25-28, and for the 2009-2011 class I would be 24 when applying (25 in December).

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 [#permalink] New post 08 Feb 2007, 12:59
jsnooky33 wrote:
Hey Paul,

Sorry to bug you again. I would go bother someone else but you are the best! What are schools going to think when they see that my non-profit incorporated only 4-5 months before applying? I don't want them to think I only did it for b-school (b-school did motivate me on starting this sooner though).

I really want to make sure I do things right the first time, and would obviously like to maximize my chances at a top school. Assuming I get a 690+ GMAT, would you advise on waiting to apply for the 2009-2011 class? This would give me almost 1.5 years of running a non-profit and I could probably be a mid-level systems engineer (if I decide to go on a contract instead of staying in business development) by that time. Even though mid-level doesn't sound like much, it usually requires at least 5 years experience and our recruiter has yet to come across one who is in his or her 20s.

Looking around at schools the average age seems to be 25-28, and for the 2009-2011 class I would be 24 when applying (25 in December).

Thanks again!


jsnooky33,

The worst thing schools will think is that getting into B-school motivated you to get involved, but that's no deal-breaker, especially if the impact you had after you got involved is significant. It's the impact not the intent that they care most about.

I certainly think you would be a stronger applicant if you waited until the 2009-11 class. But keep in mind that the worst thing that would happen if you apply before then is you'll get dinged -- but that means you'll get feedback from some schools on areas to improve on and will marginally increase your odds for admission later since most schools modestly favor reapplicants. So it comes down to how soon you feel you need the MBA.

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