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Pundit: The only airline providing service for our town announces that because the service is unprofitable, it will discontinue this service next year. Town officials have urged the community to use the airline’s service more frequently so that the airline will change its decision. There is no reason to comply with their recommendation, however, for just last week these same officials drove to an out-of-town conference instead of flying. The Pundit’s reasoning is most vulnerable to criticism on the grounds that it presumes, without providing justification, that (A) Increasing the number of tickets sold without increasing ticket prices will be sufficient to make continued air service economically feasible. (B) Suspending service and losing money by continuing service are the airline’s only options. (C) The town officials paid for their trip with taxpayers’ money rather than their own money. (D) Ground transportation is usually no less expensive than airplane transportation. (E) If the town officials did not follow their own advice, then that advice is not worth following. I took Weakening approach here.. Will let know the answer once explained here
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(A) because the argument is that if the airline's service is used more the airline would continue its service. The airline will continue its service because it will be profitable. However, the airline may be unprofitable for other reasons, for example, there's a mandated price ceiling on the airline ticket, which does not allow the airline to recover its costs.
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Re: Pundit: The only airline providing service [#permalink]
05 Jul 2009, 00:13
Eliminated b,c,d,
Between A and E............A looks better
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Re: Pundit: The only airline providing service [#permalink]
05 Jul 2009, 00:21
asimov I get your point and Where you are going. I must say that I got it a little bit wrong is thinking that the question is of WKNing type. It seems to me like an Assumption question now. Before giving the answer now, I would like to know the conclusion here. Are there more than 1 conclusion here? Moreover, I would like to know correctness of my judgement of classifying it in Assumption Finding category of question.
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mdfrahim wrote: Eliminated b,c,d,
Between A and E............A looks better Can I have reasoning for choices your elimination? Also why A better than E?
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Re: Pundit: The only airline providing service [#permalink]
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asimov wrote: (A) because the argument is that if the airline's service is used more the airline would continue its service. The airline will continue its service because it will be profitable. However, the airline may be unprofitable for other reasons, for example, there's a mandated price ceiling on the airline ticket, which does not allow the airline to recover its costs. After relooking at the question, I also came to answer A. I got your point, but the answer in the source doesnt match with our answer A. I will reveal answer in some time. Please come with correct answer with proper justification.
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05 Jul 2009, 03:59
A for me.
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Re: Pundit: The only airline providing service [#permalink]
05 Jul 2009, 05:59
It's E for me.
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bkumars8 wrote: It's E for me. Correct... Reasoning please!!!!!!!
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Re: Pundit: The only airline providing service [#permalink]
05 Jul 2009, 06:43
Pundits Reasoning - There is no reason to comply with their recommendation (to use the airline’s service more frequently), since just last week these same officials drove to an out-of-town conference instead of flying. Ans is E OA pls joshofnsit wrote: Pundit: The only airline providing service for our town announces that because the service is unprofitable, it will discontinue this service next year. Town officials have urged the community to use the airline’s service more frequently so that the airline will change its decision. There is no reason to comply with their recommendation, however, for just last week these same officials drove to an out-of-town conference instead of flying.
The Pundit’s reasoning is most vulnerable to criticism on the grounds that it presumes, without providing justification, that
(A) Increasing the number of tickets sold without increasing ticket prices will be sufficient to make continued air service economically feasible.
(B) Suspending service and losing money by continuing service are the airline’s only options.
(C) The town officials paid for their trip with taxpayers’ money rather than their own money.
(D) Ground transportation is usually no less expensive than airplane transportation.
(E) If the town officials did not follow their own advice, then that advice is not worth following.
I took Weakening approach here.. Will let know the answer once explained here
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snipertrader wrote: Pundits Reasoning - There is no reason to comply with their recommendation (to use the airline’s service more frequently), since just last week these same officials drove to an out-of-town conference instead of flying. Ans is E OA pls joshofnsit wrote: Pundit: The only airline providing service for our town announces that because the service is unprofitable, it will discontinue this service next year. Town officials have urged the community to use the airline’s service more frequently so that the airline will change its decision. There is no reason to comply with their recommendation, however, for just last week these same officials drove to an out-of-town conference instead of flying.
The Pundit’s reasoning is most vulnerable to criticism on the grounds that it presumes, without providing justification, that
(A) Increasing the number of tickets sold without increasing ticket prices will be sufficient to make continued air service economically feasible.
(B) Suspending service and losing money by continuing service are the airline’s only options.
(C) The town officials paid for their trip with taxpayers’ money rather than their own money.
(D) Ground transportation is usually no less expensive than airplane transportation.
(E) If the town officials did not follow their own advice, then that advice is not worth following.
I took Weakening approach here.. Will let know the answer once explained here E is the OA. I have now traced it to the root. Also, it is not a direct/normal WKN or assumption question. Rather it is flaw in reasoning types. Some more details about this flaw in argument can be found on ==> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
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Re: Pundit: The only airline providing service [#permalink]
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I don't understand why it would be E. Just because the official is hypocritical doesn't make the argument bad. This is like saying "an official said that buying more fuel efficient vehicle will help you save gas, but last week the official just bought a fuel-guzzling Mercedes G-Wagon." Does him having a G Wagon have anything to do with the fact you will save gas? Furthermore, the question did not specifically state that the announcement by the airline took place before last week. For all we know, the official could have drove before he know about the airline's plan. The kind of reasoning of the OA would work well in politics, but it has nothing to do with logic. By the way, where did you get that question from? Sometime prep books have bad questions.
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asimov wrote: I don't understand why it would be E. Just because the official is hypocritical doesn't make the argument bad.
This is like saying "an official said that buying more fuel efficient vehicle will help you save gas, but last week the official just bought a fuel-guzzling Mercedes G-Wagon." Does him having a G Wagon have anything to do with the fact you will save gas?
Furthermore, the question did not specifically state that the announcement by the airline took place before last week. For all we know, the official could have drove before he know about the airline's plan.
The kind of reasoning of the OA would work well in politics, but it has nothing to do with logic.
By the way, where did you get that question from? Sometime prep books have bad questions. Here is the analysis: The Main/Primary conclusion here is "Dont follow/comply with their recommendation.. refer[1] " The main premise here is "same officials drove to an out-of-town conference instead of flying" Premise 1--> The only airline providing service for our town announces that because the service is unprofitable, it will discontinue this service next year. Subconclusion/ Premise 2-->Town officials have urged the community to use the airline’s service more frequently so that the airline will change its decision.[1] I completely agree that Premise1 and Subconclusion form a pair to form an argument, which also have its own assumption as specified in option selected by us in A and that also lacks an assumption. But we should disregard that on 2 grounds 1) it is not main conclusion where author of this paragraph is ultimately leading us to 2) the type of question it is i.e. "Flaw in the reasoning" and not straight weaken or assumption question. Here you are not told to identify the assumption or weakening loophole, rather the stem itself commits that there is some problem in the argument and then ask to give the FLAW in the argument. The answer lies in the question stem. The Pundit’s reasoning is most vulnerable to criticism on the grounds that it presumes, without providing justification, that As far as authenticity of question is concerned, please don't get worried. This is question from examination of LSAT, which has been an assumed source of logic for GMAT CR questions.
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I also think the ans is E.Is it the correct ans?
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shrutisingh wrote: I also think the ans is E.Is it the correct ans? The OA is E.
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Re: Pundit: The only airline providing service [#permalink]
07 Jul 2009, 03:47
IMO E.
A is the presumption of town officials' statement to use the airline more . Pundits argument is not to follow the town officials advice and that presumes E.
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another vote for A
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Re: Pundit: The only airline providing service [#permalink]
07 Jul 2009, 05:30
It should certainly be E. Question is asking for the flaw in writer's argument (writer here is Pundit). Breakup of Pundit's argument: Evidence: Town officials have given suggestion, which they are not following themselves. Conclusion: Since Town officials themselves are not following their suggestions, we should also not follow. (A) Increasing the number of tickets sold without increasing ticket prices will be sufficient to make continued air service economically feasible. -Option talking about Town Officials' suggestion, not Pundit's argument(B) Suspending service and losing money by continuing service are the airline’s only options. -Irrelevant (C) The town officials paid for their trip with taxpayers’ money rather than their own money. -Irrelevant. No information has been given about this (D) Ground transportation is usually no less expensive than airplane transportation. -Irrelevant. No information has been given about this (E) If the town officials did not follow their own advice, then that advice is not worth following. -Correct option. This is what Pundit is concluding based on one incidence of Officials not following their own suggestion. There can always be some possible circumstances, due to which officials couldn't follow their own suggestions.
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07 Jul 2009, 05:47
Oh.. i didn't read the text properly... that's stupid of me.  I agree with E.
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aknine wrote: Oh.. i didn't read the text properly... that's stupid of me. I agree with E.  It happens. I think option A has been placed intentionally, to make the question tricky. If the question has asked to find a flaw in "Town Officers" argument, then certainly it would be option A.
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