Quasars are so distant that their light has taken billions : GMAT Sentence Correction (SC)
Check GMAT Club Decision Tracker for the Latest School Decision Releases http://gmatclub.com/AppTrack

 It is currently 24 Jan 2017, 18:10

### GMAT Club Daily Prep

#### Thank you for using the timer - this advanced tool can estimate your performance and suggest more practice questions. We have subscribed you to Daily Prep Questions via email.

Customized
for You

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History

Track

every week, we’ll send you an estimated GMAT score based on your performance

Practice
Pays

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History

# Events & Promotions

###### Events & Promotions in June
Open Detailed Calendar

# Quasars are so distant that their light has taken billions

Author Message
TAGS:

### Hide Tags

Manager
Joined: 02 Aug 2006
Posts: 116
Location: Mumbai
Followers: 1

Kudos [?]: 105 [0], given: 3

Quasars are so distant that their light has taken billions [#permalink]

### Show Tags

21 Jan 2010, 18:47
7
This post was
BOOKMARKED
00:00

Difficulty:

(N/A)

Question Stats:

63% (02:06) correct 37% (00:58) wrong based on 92 sessions

### HideShow timer Statistics

Quasars are so distant that their light has taken billions of years to reach the Earth; consequently, we see
them as they were during
the formation of the universe.
(A) we see them as they were during
(B) we see them as they had been during
(C) we see them as if during
(D) they appear to us as they did in
(E) they appear to us as though in
If you have any questions
New!
Manager
Joined: 26 Nov 2009
Posts: 175
Followers: 3

Kudos [?]: 57 [0], given: 5

### Show Tags

22 Jan 2010, 03:46
My intuition says that choices A and D comes close

I will choose D over A
Manager
Joined: 26 Nov 2009
Posts: 175
Followers: 3

Kudos [?]: 57 [0], given: 5

### Show Tags

22 Jan 2010, 03:47
Manhattan GMAT Instructor
Affiliations: ManhattanGMAT
Joined: 21 Jan 2010
Posts: 354
Location: San Francisco
Followers: 497

Kudos [?]: 1317 [7] , given: 11

### Show Tags

24 Jan 2010, 13:30
7
KUDOS
4
This post was
BOOKMARKED
Hey All,

Just thought I'd weigh in on this one, since the official answer seems to be lacking.

The answer is A. In C, the "during" is unclear, because it makes it sound as if WE are seeing them NOW as if we were seeing them during the formation of the universe. This isn't the intended meaning of the sentence.

In D, the comparison is incorrect. It makes it sound as if they appear to us NOW as they appeared to us during the formation of the universe. But we weren't there back then. Sadly. E does this in an even more egregious way.

In A and B, we have to choose between the past tense and the past perfect. However, we should only be concerned about the tenses in the independent clause that comes after the semicolon. The only verb there is "see" which is in the present, so we only need to use the simple past tense to express an action occurring BEFORE the "see" action. The only time we would need past perfect would be if we had a verb in the clause that was already in the past tense, and we wanted to express an action occurring before THAT.

Hope that helps!

Tommy Wallach

Quasars are so distant that their light has taken billions of years to reach the Earth; consequently, we see
them as they were during the formation of the universe.
(A) we see them as they were during
(B) we see them as they had been during
(C) we see them as if during
(D) they appear to us as they did in
(E) they appear to us as though in
_________________

Tommy Wallach | Manhattan GMAT Instructor | San Francisco

Manhattan GMAT Discount | Manhattan GMAT Reviews

Intern
Joined: 07 Dec 2009
Posts: 43
Followers: 0

Kudos [?]: 4 [0], given: 3

### Show Tags

25 Jan 2010, 12:42
Hi Tommy,
I did not not undersatand your explanation. Do you mind elaborate - A vs D

we see them as they were during vs they appear to us as they did in

we see them as they were during - we see the Quasars as Quasars were during Does'nt this mean that we "currently" see Quasars as Quasars were in the past(during the formation of the universe)

they appear to us as they did in Quasars appear to us as Quasars did inQuasars looks the same as they were in the past

i think - both mean the same.

Regards

ms
Senior Manager
Joined: 22 Dec 2009
Posts: 362
Followers: 11

Kudos [?]: 378 [1] , given: 47

### Show Tags

25 Jan 2010, 12:55
1
KUDOS
ms wrote:
Hi Tommy,
I did not not undersatand your explanation. Do you mind elaborate - A vs D

we see them as they were during vs they appear to us as they did in

we see them as they were during - we see the Quasars as Quasars were during Does'nt this mean that we "currently" see Quasars as Quasars were in the past(during the formation of the universe)

they appear to us as they did in Quasars appear to us as Quasars did inQuasars looks the same as they were in the past

i think - both mean the same.

Regards

ms

No.. there is slight misunderstanding in your second statement...
they appear to us as they did in - actually gives an impression that you saw them before (during formation) and hence you comment that they look like they did in the past.... once you see them again...currently..

But the first statement.... gives an impression that u see them as you have known about them during formation... it does NOT give an impression that you travelled back in time and saw them forming... and hence it is correct..

Hope this helps... else Tommy would respond back to you on this...!
_________________

Cheers!
JT...........
If u like my post..... payback in Kudos!!

|For CR refer Powerscore CR Bible|For SC refer Manhattan SC Guide|

~~Better Burn Out... Than Fade Away~~

Manhattan GMAT Instructor
Affiliations: ManhattanGMAT
Joined: 21 Jan 2010
Posts: 354
Location: San Francisco
Followers: 497

Kudos [?]: 1317 [0], given: 11

### Show Tags

25 Jan 2010, 14:43
JT is absolutely right. Thanks for clarifying that one for me.

In the correct answer, we have "as they were", the "they" being the quasars, the "were" being merely the action of being.

In D, we have "as they did", the "they" being the quasars, the "did" standing in for "appear to us". They could not have appeared to us in the distant past, because we weren't around.

Hopefully that helps. Thanks again, JT!

-tommy
_________________

Tommy Wallach | Manhattan GMAT Instructor | San Francisco

Manhattan GMAT Discount | Manhattan GMAT Reviews

Senior Manager
Joined: 22 Dec 2009
Posts: 362
Followers: 11

Kudos [?]: 378 [0], given: 47

### Show Tags

25 Jan 2010, 14:57
TommyWallach wrote:
JT is absolutely right. Thanks for clarifying that one for me.

In the correct answer, we have "as they were", the "they" being the quasars, the "were" being merely the action of being.

In D, we have "as they did", the "they" being the quasars, the "did" standing in for "appear to us". They could not have appeared to us in the distant past, because we weren't around.

Hopefully that helps. Thanks again, JT!

-tommy

Anytime Tommy....
_________________

Cheers!
JT...........
If u like my post..... payback in Kudos!!

|For CR refer Powerscore CR Bible|For SC refer Manhattan SC Guide|

~~Better Burn Out... Than Fade Away~~

Intern
Joined: 07 Dec 2009
Posts: 43
Followers: 0

Kudos [?]: 4 [0], given: 3

### Show Tags

25 Jan 2010, 19:47
Thanks JT and Tommy.

Manager
Joined: 16 Jan 2013
Posts: 182
Followers: 5

Kudos [?]: 314 [0], given: 56

Re: Quasars are so distant that their light has taken billions [#permalink]

### Show Tags

20 Dec 2013, 19:34
Bumping up this post for certain clarifications.

Quasars are so distant that their light has taken billions of years to reach the Earth; consequently, we see
them as they were during
the formation of the universe.
(A) we see them as they were during
(D) they appear to us as they did in

In the first look, I chose 'D' but understood that 'D' is wrong after a 2-3 minute analysis --> in the exam, I willnot have that comfort. So, some quick doubts.

Doubt 1.
When two independent clauses are separated by a semicolon or a co-ordinating conjunction, shouldn't the construction be of the type
subject + phrase ; subject/subject pronoun + phrase?

So construction Quasars are so distant .... ; they appear .... should be correct, correct?

Please let me know not from the PoV of the above question

Doubt 2. Suppose I rephrase the option D as
they appear to us as they were during
Would 'D' be a more preferred choice than 'A' ?
_________________

What are modifiers ??

Verbal Forum Moderator
Joined: 15 Jun 2012
Posts: 1153
Location: United States
Followers: 260

Kudos [?]: 2874 [0], given: 123

Re: Quasars are so distant that their light has taken billions [#permalink]

### Show Tags

20 Dec 2013, 23:42
Hello sivasanjeev

sivasanjeev wrote:
Doubt 1.
When two independent clauses are separated by a semicolon or a co-ordinating conjunction, shouldn't the construction be of the type
subject + phrase ; subject/subject pronoun + phrase?

So construction Quasars are so distant .... ; they appear .... should be correct, correct?

First, a semicolon is used to separate two clauses, the first clause is main, the second clause is dependent (it can't stand alone). There is no definition as in your structure (S + V; repeated S + V). All we need to pay attention is meaning. The second clause must be matched with the first one in meaning. Thus, Option A is correct.

Quote:
Doubt 2. Suppose I rephrase the option D as
they appear to us as they were during
Would 'D' be a more preferred choice than 'A' ?

I would say your own sentence is wrong. "Appear" is main verb that expresses what Quasars did (particular action). However "were" is NOT a main verb, but auxiliary verb that expresses how the Quasars were (characteristics). --> Technically, characteristics and action can't be used interchangeably. Thus, the sentence is wrong in both grammar and meaning.
Let see another example:
He played a soccer game very well as he was ..... <== Does it make sense? Nope! "played" expresses what he did. "was" expresses how he was/ his characteristic.

Hope it makes sense.
_________________

Please +1 KUDO if my post helps. Thank you.

"Designing cars consumes you; it has a hold on your spirit which is incredibly powerful. It's not something you can do part time, you have do it with all your heart and soul or you're going to get it wrong."

Chris Bangle - Former BMW Chief of Design.

Manager
Joined: 16 Jan 2013
Posts: 182
Followers: 5

Kudos [?]: 314 [0], given: 56

Re: Quasars are so distant that their light has taken billions [#permalink]

### Show Tags

21 Dec 2013, 06:08
Hi,
I appreciate your response and I comply with it too.

But one point. Semicolon connects two independent clauses (which are closely related.) That's why I asked if there is a rule that says "the two independent clauses must be parallel, with pronoun-subject of the second referring to the subject of the first.
_________________

What are modifiers ??

Senior Manager
Joined: 08 Apr 2013
Posts: 295
Followers: 0

Kudos [?]: 22 [0], given: 27

Re: Quasars are so distant that their light has taken billions [#permalink]

### Show Tags

21 Dec 2013, 07:17
jitendra wrote:
Quasars are so distant that their light has taken billions of years to reach the Earth; consequently, we see
them as they were during
the formation of the universe.
(A) we see them as they were during
(B) we see them as they had been during
(C) we see them as if during
(D) they appear to us as they did in
(E) they appear to us as though in

the hard point in ellipsis is that all the clause is ommited. C ilustrate this hard point. whenever we see conjuction+preposition used as adverbial, it is possible that all the clause is omitted.

C means

we see them as if we see them dering the formation of the uviverse.

we we can make full the ellipsis, we realize the meaning problem in C.
_________________

If anyone in this gmat forum is in England,Britain, pls, email to me, (thanghnvn@gmail.com) . I have some questions and need your advise. Thank a lot.

GMAT Club Legend
Joined: 01 Oct 2013
Posts: 10543
Followers: 920

Kudos [?]: 204 [0], given: 0

Re: Quasars are so distant that their light has taken billions [#permalink]

### Show Tags

23 Jan 2015, 06:40
Hello from the GMAT Club VerbalBot!

Thanks to another GMAT Club member, I have just discovered this valuable topic, yet it had no discussion for over a year. I am now bumping it up - doing my job. I think you may find it valuable (esp those replies with Kudos).

Want to see all other topics I dig out? Follow me (click follow button on profile). You will receive a summary of all topics I bump in your profile area as well as via email.
GMAT Club Legend
Joined: 01 Oct 2013
Posts: 10543
Followers: 920

Kudos [?]: 204 [0], given: 0

Re: Quasars are so distant that their light has taken billions [#permalink]

### Show Tags

23 Jan 2016, 08:45
Hello from the GMAT Club VerbalBot!

Thanks to another GMAT Club member, I have just discovered this valuable topic, yet it had no discussion for over a year. I am now bumping it up - doing my job. I think you may find it valuable (esp those replies with Kudos).

Want to see all other topics I dig out? Follow me (click follow button on profile). You will receive a summary of all topics I bump in your profile area as well as via email.
Re: Quasars are so distant that their light has taken billions   [#permalink] 23 Jan 2016, 08:45
Similar topics Replies Last post
Similar
Topics:
Quasars, at billions of light-years from Earth the most dist 0 03 Sep 2013, 10:56
Quasars are so distant that their light has taken billions 0 27 Nov 2011, 18:42
1 Quasars are so distant that their light has taken billions 5 21 Dec 2009, 06:01
14 Quasars, at billions of light-years from Earth the most 32 22 Jul 2007, 13:44
Quasars are so distant that their light has taken billions 2 15 Apr 2007, 17:21
Display posts from previous: Sort by