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The dean of computing must be respected by the academic staff and be competent to oversee the use of computers on campus. The only deans whom academics respect are those who hold doctoral degrees, and only someone who really knows about computers can competently oversee the use of computers on campus. Furthermore, the board of trustees has decided that the dean of computing must be selected from among this university’s staff. Therefore, the dean of computing must be a professor from this university’s computer science department.

13. Which one of the following is an assumption on which the argument depends?

(A) Academics respect only people who hold doctoral degrees.
(B) All of this university’s professors have obtained doctoral degrees.
(C) At this university, every professor who holds a doctoral degree in computer science really knows about computers.
(D) All academics who hold doctoral degrees are respected by their academic colleagues.
(E) Among this university’s staff members with doctoral degrees, only those in the computer science department really know about computers.

14. Which one of the following statements, if true, would weaken the argument?

(A) There are members of this university’s staff who hold doctoral degrees and who are not professors but who really know about computers.
(B) There are members of this university’s philosophy department who do not hold doctoral degrees but who really know about computers.
(C) Computer science professors who hold doctoral degrees but who are not members of this university’s staff have applied for the position of dean of computing.
(D) Several members of the board of trustees of this university do not hold doctoral degrees.
(E) Some members of the computer science department at this university are not respected by academics in other departments.
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 [#permalink] New post 31 May 2005, 18:05
13. C. (But confused bet C and E. choosed C becasue E doesnot mention about professor. The dean must be professor with doctoral from computer science dept.)

14. A
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 [#permalink] New post 31 May 2005, 18:06
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 [#permalink] New post 31 May 2005, 18:22
1) Dean of computing must be respected by the academic staff
2) Dean of computing must be competent to oversee the use of computers on campus
3) Only deans who hold doctoral degrees respected by academics
4) Only someone who knows about computers can competently oversee use of computers
5) Board wants dean to be selected from university's staff
6) Dean must be professor from computer science dept <- conclusion

1-5 are the premises of the argument. 1-4 lists the criterias in the selection of the dean. 6 is the conclusion. We want to find an assumption that holds up this conclusion.

13. Which one of the following is an assumption on which the argument depends?

(A) Academics respect only people who hold doctoral degrees.
- Does not hold up conclusion.

(B) All of this university’s professors have obtained doctoral degrees.
- Does not help since the professor can come from any dept and not just from computer science dept

(C) At this university, every professor who holds a doctoral degree in computer science really knows about computers.
- This is the one. We're told that the potential dean is a professor with a doctoral degree in computer science and knows about computers.

(D) All academics who hold doctoral degrees are respected by their academic colleagues.
- Does not help to hold up conclusion, so not useful

(E) Among this university’s staff members with doctoral degrees, only those in the computer science department really know about computers.
- But this means a doctor can be selected, and not exclusively professors.

C for me.

14. Which one of the following statements, if true, would weaken the argument?

(A) There are members of this university’s staff who hold doctoral degrees and who are not professors but who really know about computers.
- If so, then there is no need for the dean to be a professor

(B) There are members of this university’s philosophy department who do not hold doctoral degrees but who really know about computers.
- Out. Does not satisfy the hard fact that only those with doctoral degrees are respected by academics and the dean requires this respect

(C) Computer science professors who hold doctoral degrees but who are not members of this university’s staff have applied for the position of dean of computing.
- Not important.

(D) Several members of the board of trustees of this university do not hold doctoral degrees.
- Out of scope

(E) Some members of the computer science department at this university are not respected by academics in other departments.
- It could be because they do not hold a doctoral degree or any other reason (maybe they're scums, we just don't know)

A for me.
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 [#permalink] New post 31 May 2005, 20:30
C & A

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 [#permalink] New post 01 Jun 2005, 11:52
13) E
14) A
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 [#permalink] New post 01 Jun 2005, 12:45
I will go with E & A

The conclusion is that the dean of computing must be a professor from this university’s computer science department, so the assumption is that only computer science department people know about computers.

C - can be eliminated because it says every professor who holds a doctoral degree in computer science really knows about computers but it does not say that these professors work in the computer science department, these people could be holding dual degrees and work for another department - the conclusion specifically mentions computer science department.
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 [#permalink] New post 01 Jun 2005, 17:41
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I will go with E & A

The conclusion is that the dean of computing must be a professor from this university’s computer science department, so the assumption is that only computer science department people know about computers.

C - can be eliminated because it says every professor who holds a doctoral degree in computer science really knows about computers but it does not say that these professors work in the computer science department, these people could be holding dual degrees and work for another department - the conclusion specifically mentions computer science department.


but in 13 (E), it doesnot say whether the staff members of the computer dept are prof or not. so how do we can deduce E as best one.
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 [#permalink] New post 01 Jun 2005, 18:20
HIMALAYA wrote:
but in 13 (E), it doesnot say whether the staff members of the computer dept are prof or not. so how do we can deduce E as best one.


Because the last words are about computer science department, I would assume that the author gives more weightage to that fact.

I eliminated C because it does not mention that those professors are from the computer science department.

Let us try plugging in 'C' & 'E' into the passage and see what flows naturally.

The dean must be 1) respected and 2) competent.
In order to be respected he must have a doctoral degree.
In order to be competent he must know about computers.
The new dean must be selected from the university's staff.
c) At this university, every professor who holds a doctoral degree in computer science really knows about computers.
It follows, that the dean must be a professor from this university's computer science department.

IMO, the conclusion does not support the assumption. If the conclusion was "the dean must be a professor with a doctoral degree", I would have went with C

Let us try 'E'

The dean must be 1) respected and 2) competent.
In order to be respected he must have a doctoral degree.
In order to be competent he must know about computers.
The new dean must be selected from the university's staff.
E) Among this university’s staff members with doctoral degrees, only those in the computer science department really know about computers.
It follows, that the dean must be a professor from this university's computer science department.
IMO, the conclusion follows the assumption, even though it just mentions university's staff members.
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 [#permalink] New post 01 Jun 2005, 18:57
HIMALAYA wrote:
rthothad wrote:
I will go with E & A

The conclusion is that the dean of computing must be a professor from this university’s computer science department, so the assumption is that only computer science department people know about computers.

C - can be eliminated because it says every professor who holds a doctoral degree in computer science really knows about computers but it does not say that these professors work in the computer science department, these people could be holding dual degrees and work for another department - the conclusion specifically mentions computer science department.


but in 13 (E), it doesnot say whether the staff members of the computer dept are prof or not. so how do we can deduce E as best one.



C does not satisfy "Computer Science Department " condition
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E misses out on "Prof" part.
but we can safely assume that people with doctoral degree might be a professor.
And
"The only deans whom academics respect are those who hold doctoral degrees"
so it is not necessary to hold a doctoral in "computer science" but important thing is he/she should be from Computer science Dept.

So answer is E
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 [#permalink] New post 02 Jun 2005, 16:48
Thanx guys.
rthothad wrote:
HIMALAYA wrote:
but in 13 (E), it doesnot say whether the staff members of the computer dept are prof or not. so how do we can deduce E as best one.

Because the last words are about computer science department, I would assume that the author gives more weightage to that fact.

shalinikhatri wrote:
HIMALAYA wrote:
rthothad wrote:
I will go with E & A.
but in 13 (E), it doesnot say whether the staff members of the computer dept are prof or not. so how do we can deduce E as best one.

C does not satisfy "Computer Science Department " condition
and E misses out on "Prof" part.So answer is E
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 [#permalink] New post 02 Jun 2005, 17:04
For the first question i would go with E
Because the two requirements are that the person hold a doctorate and know about computers...but what if someone in another dept fulfills both requirements...
I'm still a tad stuck between C and E....as C is an assumption that needs to be true as well...

For the second question i go for A as i dont see the relevance of any of the other options
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Re: CR: Dean of computing [#permalink] New post 02 Jun 2005, 19:44
Vote for E and A.

(for same reasons mentioned above)

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 [#permalink] New post 02 Jun 2005, 21:32
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 [#permalink] New post 02 Jun 2005, 21:42
I agree it has to be E and A.

C talks about professors who have a doctoral degree in computer science, this is not relevent to the stem. We only care about professors in the computer science department, whatever field their degree is doesn't matter.
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 [#permalink] New post 02 Jun 2005, 21:47
HongHu wrote:
I agree it has to be E and A.

C talks about professors who have a doctoral degree in computer science, this is not relevent to the stem. We only care about professors in the computer science department, whatever field their degree is doesn't matter.


Honghu, nice to see you again. I chose C because the conclusion says 'a professor from the computer science department'. In E, we do not know if the staff memeber from the computer science department is a professor. He could just be a doctor. However, in C, we know it's a professor and the fact he holds a doctorate in computer science makes the claim even stronger.
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 [#permalink] New post 02 Jun 2005, 21:52
E does mention "university’s staff members with doctoral degrees". I would equate these as "professors", for it can't be a student with doctoral degree, and they are unlikely to be non teaching staffs since they do hold doctoral degrees.
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HongHu wrote:
E does mention "university’s staff members with doctoral degrees". I would equate these as "professors", for it can't be a student with doctoral degree, and they are unlikely to be non teaching staffs since they do hold doctoral degrees.


No. Possesing a doctoral degree only gives you the right to use the title Dr (e.g Dr John, Dr Mary). Professorship is conferred, and gives you the right to use the title Professor (e.g Professor John, Professor Mary). So you can have a doctorate degree but still not be a professor.
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 [#permalink] New post 02 Jun 2005, 22:04
What do you propose such a person be doing in the department then, if he has a doctoral degree, but is not a professor?
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 [#permalink] New post 02 Jun 2005, 22:06
HongHu wrote:
What do you propose such a person be doing in the department then, if he has a doctoral degree, but is not a professor?


Such doctors would usually be the teaching staff while carrying out research work as well. Such reserch work are important to generate funds for the department.
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