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R is a set containing 8 different numbers. S is a set containing 7 different numbers, all of which are members of R. Which of the following statements CANNOT be true?

(A) The range of R is less than the range of S.
(B) The mean of R is greater than the mean of S.
(C) The range of R is equal to the range of S.
(D) The mean of R is less than the mean of S.
(E) The mean of R is equal to the mean of S.

I got he right answer (
[Reveal] Spoiler:
A
) but had to some guess work on choice D. Any idea how can we prove that choice
[Reveal] Spoiler:
D
can be true as well?
[Reveal] Spoiler: OA

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R is a set containing 8 different numbers. S is a set containing 7 different numbers, all of which are members of R. Which of the following statements CANNOT be true?

(A) The range of R is less than the range of S.
(B) The mean of R is greater than the mean of S.
(C) The range of R is equal to the range of S.
(D) The mean of R is less than the mean of S.
(E) The mean of R is equal to the mean of S.

I got he right answer (A) but had to some guess work on choice D. Any idea how can we prove that choice D can be true as well?


The range of a set is the difference between the largest and smallest elements of a set.

So, the answer is straight A: the range of a subset cannot be more than the range of a whole set: how can the difference between the largest and smallest elements of a subset be more than the difference between the largest and smallest elements of a whole set.

As for D:
Consider set R to be {-3, -2, -1, 0, 1, 2, 3, 4} --> mean=0.5.

(D) The mean of R is less than the mean of S --> remove the smallest term -3, then the mean of S will be 1, so more than 0.5.

Hope it's clear.
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Re: R is a set containing 8 different numbers. S is a set [#permalink] New post 07 May 2014, 03:59
HI Bunuel, consider this Set R = { 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8} and set S = {1,2,3,5,6,7,8}, in this case, the range for both set R and set S is 7.

Kindly let me know if am missing something here ?

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Re: R is a set containing 8 different numbers. S is a set [#permalink] New post 07 May 2014, 04:34
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HI Bunuel, consider this Set R = { 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8} and set S = {1,2,3,5,6,7,8}, in this case, the range for both set R and set S is 7.

Kindly let me know if am missing something here ?

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Yes, the ranges are equal but what's your question?
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Re: CANNOT be true [#permalink] New post 09 May 2014, 00:15
Bunuel wrote:
enigma123 wrote:
R is a set containing 8 different numbers. S is a set containing 7 different numbers, all of which are members of R. Which of the following statements CANNOT be true?

(A) The range of R is less than the range of S.
(B) The mean of R is greater than the mean of S.
(C) The range of R is equal to the range of S.
(D) The mean of R is less than the mean of S.
(E) The mean of R is equal to the mean of S.

I got he right answer (A) but had to some guess work on choice D. Any idea how can we prove that choice D can be true as well?


The range of a set is the difference between the largest and smallest elements of a set.

So, the answer is straight A: the range of a subset cannot be more than the range of a whole set: how can the difference between the largest and smallest elements of a subset be more than the difference between the largest and smallest elements of a whole set.

As for D:
Consider set R to be {-3, -2, -1, 0, 1, 2, 3, 4} --> mean=0.5.

(D) The mean of R is less than the mean of S --> remove the smallest term -3, then the mean of S will be 1, so more than 0.5.

Hope it's clear.


Hello Bunuel

Sorry ! I am not able to imagine the case where the Mean of the subset will be same as the Mean of its Super Set. i.e. Option E
Please provide an example for that

Thanks a lot for your help ! :)
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