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Re: Ranks and clusterings of various International b-schools [#permalink] New post 13 Feb 2010, 09:47
Its hard to compare Copenhagen Business School (CBS)and RSM (Erasmus). In terms of diversity and quality of recruiters, faculty and student quality, and future career prospects RSM is in a league which is way above CBS. CBS is a good school (the best school in Denmark) if you'd like to work in Denmark. Even within the Nordic region there are the likes of Helsinki School of Economics and Stockholm School of Economics - they are at par with or perhaps better than CBS in some respects.
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Re: Ranks and clusterings of various International b-schools [#permalink] New post 24 Feb 2010, 05:54
+1 to promote IMD to UE
As DuPont employee and IMD applicant, I see NO reason for IMD to be in E ranking, and I dont understand the explanation.
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Re: Ranks and clusterings of various International b-schools [#permalink] New post 14 Mar 2010, 07:31
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what about CEU business School, and Hult Business School !!! please reply if you anyone know anything about these two schools...Thanks :|


CEU is well known in Eastern Europe and has good connections with regional players and regional branches of multinational companies, so it's a good alternative for someone interested to work in the region. They have exchange programs with Stern, Schulich and CEIBS, the tuition fees (20k Eur) and living expenditure in Budapest are lower, so also the value for money could be a factor.

About IMD, I think it's a very good school, but the program it quite specialised, over-focused on industry, has no exchange programs with other schools and out-of-the-class student involvement it's quite limited. Thus, I feel it lacks to give a comprehensive outlook and therefore it shouldn't be considered UE.
On the grounds of overall experience and expanding outlook, I think rather IESE or IE are closer to the UE league than IMD. Just my 2 cents! :)
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Re: Ranks and clusterings of various International b-schools [#permalink] New post 31 Mar 2010, 10:03
This listing is quite good.But I am sad about IMD.Check THE ECONOMIST MBA SCHOOL RATING.It is world's No.2.
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Re: Ranks and clusterings of various International b-schools [#permalink] New post 06 Apr 2010, 00:31
Is there a more specific definition for Trans Elite?

Regarding Imperial, I don't think it's known for its business programs. 'Tanaka' Business rides on Imperial's reputation in science and engineering. More reasons to believe that business education is not really 'real'.
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Re: Ranks and clusterings of various International b-schools [#permalink] New post 06 Apr 2010, 17:08
Looking into some b-schools around Asia since I want to work in either China or HK afterward.

Can anyone comment on the MBA programs in Tsinghua, CEIBS, HKUST, CUHK? Which one held more prestige and preferred by employers?

Thanks in advance.

p.s. Would also appreciate if someone can share some links/info regarding MBA programs in Asia. It is surprisingly hard to find accurate information online.
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Re: Ranks and clusterings of various International b-schools [#permalink] New post 08 Apr 2010, 15:20
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Looking into some b-schools around Asia since I want to work in either China or HK afterward.

Can anyone comment on the MBA programs in Tsinghua, CEIBS, HKUST, CUHK? Which one held more prestige and preferred by employers?

Thanks in advance.

p.s. Would also appreciate if someone can share some links/info regarding MBA programs in Asia. It is surprisingly hard to find accurate information online.


I just came back from an exchange at the HKU MBA. Had a couple classmates at HKUST and CUHK.

As to my limited insights: I've never heard of Tsinghua. CEIBS is quite good, probably much better than CUHK. But HKUST is probably the strongest program of all schools you mention. Quite good and demanding classes according to my classmates. As a comparison, at HKU we were able to choose from 8 electives for our term (many of which we already took in our 1st year as part of the core classes). At HKUST it was more like 30+ electives to choose from.
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Re: Ranks and clusterings of various International b-schools [#permalink] New post 08 Apr 2010, 16:34
Has anyone any views on SAIF in Shanghai?
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Re: Ranks and clusterings of various International b-schools [#permalink] New post 06 May 2010, 20:15
thanks for this. I found this post really useful. Kudos

on a different note, is anyone looking at INSEAD 2012 January intake? i know this is really soon but if anyone out there who is keen please let me know!

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Re: Ranks and clusterings of various International b-schools [#permalink] New post 09 Jun 2010, 10:00
^^

What about York University's Schulich School of Business?

The school is ranked 8th in the world by The Economist, 6th non US MBA by Forbs, 1st in the world by Aspen's and number 50 something in the world by FT.
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Re: Ranks and clusterings of various International b-schools [#permalink] New post 09 Jun 2010, 15:49
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York would be under regional elite section in Canada. I dug up some info on York here :
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Re: Ranks and clusterings of various International b-schools [#permalink] New post 25 Jun 2010, 21:54
Thanks for the info, bsd_lover, very helpful!

First, a question. I'm looking at applying for the September 2011 intake to schools in Europe. My top choices are HEC Paris, EDHEC, Erasmus, and Imperial. I'm an engineer by schooling (B.S.) and occupation (water resources) and plan to stay in the engineering field upon completion.

I would like a global program that would allow me to excel both in Europe and in the US. Is it foolish to keep EDHEC and Erasmus as options? My mom lives in Holland and I speak Dutch, so this would be a special experience for me, but I don't want to jeopardize my career too much. Would love any advice.

Second, I have a couple of friends from France and UK and this was their advice when I asked about European b-schools in those two countries:

Best in France are HEC Paris, ESSEC, and ESC Paris, in that order. The only other alternative outside of Paris was EDHEC. Everything else, she said, is not worth the effort (if you're looking for a good international school). I do see INSEAD everywhere, so I'm surprised she wasn't familiar with them. Would you consider this more of a global b-school that happens to be in France and less of a French b-school that's globally recognized?

As for the UK, they said the best ones are Imperial, London Business School, and Oxford. Cambridge and Warwick were the second tier. They indicated that Cass is good, but not known outside the UK. They were familiar with Cranfield for their engineering program, but not their MBA program. Manchester was considered reasonable. They had never heard of Lancaster.

Understand that they have both lived most of their lives in Europe, so their view is probably regionally biased, but thought I would share the info.
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Re: Ranks and clusterings of various International b-schools [#permalink] New post 25 Jun 2010, 22:19
As far as "excelling" in both places, the education at most schools will give you the right tools to excel anywhere in the world. The more international schools provide a diverse crowd of students that promotes cultural sensitivity and insights into doing business in various regions. Also the case studies tend to focus on businesses around the world rather than being region specific. Look into where you want to work in the short term post MBA when you make the decision. For instance if you want to work in Holland, Erasmus is a strong regional brand that places well in Holland. The bigger names such as LBS and INSEAD give you more options into location post graduation.

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Thanks for the info, bsd_lover, very helpful!

First, a question. I'm looking at applying for the September 2011 intake to schools in Europe. My top choices are HEC Paris, EDHEC, Erasmus, and Imperial. I'm an engineer by schooling (B.S.) and occupation (water resources) and plan to stay in the engineering field upon completion.

I would like a global program that would allow me to excel both in Europe and in the US. Is it foolish to keep EDHEC and Erasmus as options? My mom lives in Holland and I speak Dutch, so this would be a special experience for me, but I don't want to jeopardize my career too much. Would love any advice.

Second, I have a couple of friends from France and UK and this was their advice when I asked about European b-schools in those two countries:

Best in France are HEC Paris, ESSEC, and ESC Paris, in that order. The only other alternative outside of Paris was EDHEC. Everything else, she said, is not worth the effort (if you're looking for a good international school). I do see INSEAD everywhere, so I'm surprised she wasn't familiar with them. Would you consider this more of a global b-school that happens to be in France and less of a French b-school that's globally recognized?

As for the UK, they said the best ones are Imperial, London Business School, and Oxford. Cambridge and Warwick were the second tier. They indicated that Cass is good, but not known outside the UK. They were familiar with Cranfield for their engineering program, but not their MBA program. Manchester was considered reasonable. They had never heard of Lancaster.

Understand that they have both lived most of their lives in Europe, so their view is probably regionally biased, but thought I would share the info.

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Re: Ranks and clusterings of various International b-schools [#permalink] New post 30 Jun 2010, 21:38
I was surprised to see that Nyenrode is not present in regional elites. Nyenrode is the most respected b school in Netherlands. Though RSM is internationally well known, still Nyenrode brand beats RSM when it comes to reputation inside Netherlands.
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Re: Ranks and clusterings of various International b-schools [#permalink] New post 30 Jun 2010, 22:56
Thanks nyenrod if you could provide some further information - I will add it here.
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Re: Ranks and clusterings of various International b-schools [#permalink] New post 02 Jul 2010, 21:27
Well, this has been an interesting road to discovery. After sifting through a number of forums here, I decided that, based on multiple recommendations, I should take a closer look at the MBA programs out there and which would interest me the most. Two unexpected revelations:

1) I'm more certain than before that an MBA is what I want to pursue. This is a good thing, so I'm very glad I went through the process.

2) The more surprising revelation, and reason I'm posting this in this thread, is that my original list of schools has been replaced in its entirety.

So the reason I'm coming to all of you is to see if there are other schools out there that I should look into that are similar to these:

IMD
Warwick
Nyenrode
Cranfield
Cambridge

Some potential candidates that are on the maybe list are:

EDHEC
Erasmus

The schools that have been almost definitely booted are:

HEC Paris
University College Dublin
SDA Bocconi
Imperial College
St. Gallen

I'm still sorting out in my head what the ideal program would have, but here are some thoughts:

I don't want a program that's heavily focused on entrepreneurship, finance, or consulting.
I like the schools that have more unique programs. Like the For Beyond Profit concentration at Cambridge, the International Leadership focus area at Nyenrode, or the Social Responsibility focus at IMD.
I also appreciate the schools that have an interesting project that either takes you international (3 international trips at Nyenrode or 1-month trip at IMD) or really makes you think and work outside the box (start-up project at IMD or the management consultancy project at Warwick).

I'm open to any thoughts or suggestions...thanks!
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Re: Ranks and clusterings of various International b-schools [#permalink] New post 16 Aug 2010, 11:43
IMD is definitely Ultra Elite
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Re: Ranks and clusterings of various International b-schools [#permalink] New post 16 Aug 2010, 18:29
LBS, INSEAD and IMD should be UE
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Re: Ranks and clusterings of various International b-schools [#permalink] New post 17 Aug 2010, 00:03
I'd appreciate some constructive reasoning behind any assertions. Please read page 1 of this thread where I outlined the reasons why I put schools in their respective buckets.
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Re: Ranks and clusterings of various International b-schools [#permalink] New post 17 Aug 2010, 00:38
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Looking into some b-schools around Asia since I want to work in either China or HK afterward.

Can anyone comment on the MBA programs in Tsinghua, CEIBS, HKUST, CUHK? Which one held more prestige and preferred by employers?

Thanks in advance.

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I just came back from an exchange at the HKU MBA. Had a couple classmates at HKUST and CUHK.

As to my limited insights: I've never heard of Tsinghua. CEIBS is quite good, probably much better than CUHK. But HKUST is probably the strongest program of all schools you mention. Quite good and demanding classes according to my classmates. As a comparison, at HKU we were able to choose from 8 electives for our term (many of which we already took in our 1st year as part of the core classes). At HKUST it was more like 30+ electives to choose from.



Tsinghua is famous in China . It's got that pedigree which I think CEIBS lacks and hence within China , Tsinghua will get more value than CEIBS. It fits exactly into regional elite category. BTW , if I remember correctly INSEAD has some tie up with Tsinghua for EMBA.
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