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Schools: Kellogg; Ross ($$); Tuck Followers: 2 Kudos [?]: 31 [1] , given: 6 Ratio PS [#permalink] 24 Jul 2009, 12:36 1 This post received KUDOS 00:00 Difficulty: (N/A) Question Stats: 0% (00:00) correct 0% (00:00) wrong based on 0 sessions During a certain month, Dave watched n-2hours movies and p 90-minutes movies. Had he spent the same amount of time watching TV, he could have watched 60 thirty minutes TV shows. Each of the following is a possible ratio of n to p except: 3:16 1:2 2:3 9:8 3:1 could not find an easy way to solve it. Manager Joined: 18 Jul 2009 Posts: 170 Location: India Schools: South Asian B-schools Followers: 2 Kudos [?]: 64 [0], given: 37 Re: Ratio PS [#permalink] 24 Jul 2009, 14:09 i got my ans by sustitution method.....if u have followed the same then sorry .... 120n+90p = 60x30 4n+3p = 60 then substituting.... _________________ Bhushan S. If you like my post....Consider it for Kudos Current Student Joined: 18 Jun 2009 Posts: 361 Location: San Francisco Schools: Duke,Oxford,IMD,INSEAD Followers: 8 Kudos [?]: 64 [0], given: 15 Re: Ratio PS [#permalink] 24 Jul 2009, 15:16 Same here I got 4n + 3p = 60 and then worked back with the answers and found A is the answer Current Student Affiliations: ? Joined: 20 Jul 2009 Posts: 191 Location: Africa/Europe Schools: Kellogg; Ross ($$); Tuck
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Re: Ratio PS [#permalink]  24 Jul 2009, 23:51
gmanjesh wrote:
Same here

I got 4n + 3p = 60

and then worked back with the answers and found A is the answer

humm...
how do you substituate? because if n is 3 and p is 16 we will have 4n+3p=12+48=60
so Answer A does work and can not the right answer.
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Re: Ratio PS [#permalink]  25 Jul 2009, 11:06
gmanjesh wrote:
Same here

I got 4n + 3p = 60

and then worked back with the answers and found A is the answer

humm...
how do you substituate? because if n is 3 and p is 16 we will have 4n+3p=12+48=60
so Answer A does work and can not the right answer.

OK here we know 3:16 as option (1) assume common factor as 1 for 1st iterration hence put 3 & 16 then check it fits in (4x3+16x3 = 60)...now if this is not true..then for second iterration take 6 & 32 then check.....
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Re: Ratio PS [#permalink]  25 Jul 2009, 11:43
By the way, AO is C

Whats the source of this question?

And if we substitute then A and D both satisfies ..It seems the question or may be the answer choice is wrong.

Cheers
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Re: Ratio PS [#permalink]  25 Jul 2009, 12:45
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There is a simple and fast way to resolve this question:

First of all you start with the equation that everybody has suggested:

120n + 90p = 60*30
4n + 3p = 60

Now here is the key.

You need only to worry about the first part of the equation "4n + 3p".

You substitute the values of n and p and check if the result is A FACTOR OF 60. If it is, then it is a possible solution, because you know that you need only to multiply the equations by a factor to get 60 as a result.

Step by step:

A 3:16 --> 4*3 + 3*16 = 60 - ok here we are lucky. This is a solution.
B 1:2 --> 4*1 + 3*2 = 10 This is another solution because 10 is a factor of 60. If we multiply the numbers of the ration by 6, we will have 6:12, and the result will be 4*6 + 3*12 = 60. But we don't need to multiply to see that the result will be 60. When we see 12, we think: It is enough!
C 2:3 --> 4*2 + 3*3 = 17 CORRECT. Here is our solution. There is no number to multiply to get a result of 60, therefore it is impossible to have the ratio 2:3
D 9:8 --> 4*9 + 3*8 = 60 lucky again
E 3:1 --> 4*3 + 3*1 = 15. It is a possible solution.

Notice that explaining this in detail might be look time consuming, but try to do this question, following this reasoning, ans you will see it is very fast.

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Re: Ratio PS [#permalink]  25 Jul 2009, 13:00
nitishmahajan wrote:
By the way, AO is C

Whats the source of this question?

And if we substitute then A and D both satisfies ..It seems the question or may be the answer choice is wrong.

Cheers

My bad I misread the question .. I didnt see the except in the end !..
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Re: Ratio PS [#permalink]  25 Jul 2009, 13:15
nitishmahajan wrote:
By the way, AO is C

Whats the source of this question?

And if we substitute then A and D both satisfies ..It seems the question or may be the answer choice is wrong.

Cheers

I had this question from princeton review. I attached a file here with the original question.

coelholds, thanks for your method.
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Re: Ratio PS [#permalink]  25 Jul 2009, 13:28
nitishmahajan wrote:
By the way, AO is C

Whats the source of this question?

And if we substitute then A and D both satisfies ..It seems the question or may be the answer choice is wrong.

Cheers

I had this question from princeton review. I attached a file here with the original question.

coelholds, thanks for your method.
Attachment:
gmatQ.JPG

Thanks, I got it I didnt read the EXCEPT in the first post; thats why got confused my bad !
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Re: Ratio PS [#permalink]  26 Jul 2009, 06:09
excellent question...+1 for the solution and +1 for the question.
I discovered a new pattern
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Re: Ratio PS [#permalink]  27 Jul 2009, 05:33
Thank you guys!!!
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Re: Ratio PS [#permalink]  27 Jul 2009, 06:17
Nice explanation!
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