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Records from the latter half of the 19th century show that in 1876 in Westbridge County there were 1,200 landowners, nearly 12 percent of the state landowner population, three times as many as 1852.

A three times as many as 1852

B three times as much as 1852

C triple what it was in 1852

D triple the figure for 1852

E thrice the number that was recorded in 1852
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28 Mar 2013, 13:32
What is the source of this problem....
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A three times as many as 1852 --- comparing population with 1852 --wrong

B three times as much as 1852 --- same as in A--- wrong

C triple what it was in 1852 ----"It" is creating ambiguity --- wrong

D triple the figure for 1852 --- concise and correct

E thrice the number that was recorded in 1852 -- correct but wordy
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31 Mar 2013, 22:36
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Answer should be D as in option A,B we are doing wrong comparison.E is wordy and in Option C it's antecedent is ambiguous
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A three times as many as 1852 --- comparing population with 1852 --wrong

B three times as much as 1852 --- same as in A--- wrong

C triple what it was in 1852 ----"It" is creating ambiguity --- wrong

D triple the figure for 1852 --- concise and correct

E thrice the number that was recorded in 1852 -- correct but wordy

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Edited.....Obv it was E...
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Answer should be D as in option A,B we are doing wrong comparison.D is wordy and in Option C it's antecedent is ambiguous
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A three times as many as 1852 --- comparing population with 1852 --wrong

B three times as much as 1852 --- same as in A--- wrong

C triple what it was in 1852 ----"It" is creating ambiguity --- wrong

D triple the figure for 1852 --- concise and correct

E thrice the number that was recorded in 1852 -- correct but wordy

Did you mean "E is wordy"?
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01 Apr 2013, 23:05
So finally, the correct answer is E or D?
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09 Aug 2014, 18:14
carcass wrote:
http://grockit.com/blog/gmat/2011/12/23/gmat-8-rules-of-diction-for-non-native-speakers/

Hi Carcass,

What does this sentence compare? 1,200 landowners in 1876 and # of landowners in 1852 or landowner population in 1876 and landowner population in 1852? I think # of landowners is landowner population, right?

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09 Aug 2014, 22:04
As I know when we use direc numbers like here "1200 landowners" it is better to use multiplying form like "thrice or three times" than "three times as.... as" form. So, I selected E. But dictionary says that "triple" is also possible
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As I know when we use direc numbers like here "1200 landowners" it is better to use multiplying form like "thrice or three times" than "three times as.... as" form. So, I selected E. But dictionary says that "triple" is also possible

Hey Temurkhon,

You bring out a very good point: When to use twice/thrice/three times, when to use double/triple?

I have found some information from the following website: http://www.beatthegmat.com/question-wit ... 63536.html

As per their discussion:

Why E is wrong : "Thrice is an adverb and can not modify a noun. "

D is correct because double/triple are adjectives, so can modify noun.

For further clarity :

"Twice": "Twice" CANNOT function as an object of the preposition such as "by".
Example:
"... increased by more than twice .." -- WRONG!

On a similar note, "DOUBLE" is an adjective and can not modify verb, but since "Twice" is an adverb it can modify Verb.
Example:-
The same amount of acreage produces double the apple.... -- WRONG
The same amount of acreage produces twice as many apples..... -CORRECT

"twice as many as":

"..., twice as many as ..." is an APPOSITIVE modifier. Appositives must modify some noun that comes immediately before the comma.

However, I am not satisfied with this explanation. I hope that some experts will give their thoughts about this usage!

Lucy
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LucyDang wrote:
Temurkhon wrote:
As I know when we use direc numbers like here "1200 landowners" it is better to use multiplying form like "thrice or three times" than "three times as.... as" form. So, I selected E. But dictionary says that "triple" is also possible

Hey Temurkhon,

You bring out a very good point: When to use twice/thrice/three times, when to use double/triple?

I have found some information from the following website: http://www.beatthegmat.com/question-wit ... 63536.html

As per their discussion:

Why E is wrong : "Thrice is an adverb and can not modify a noun. "

D is correct because double/triple are adjectives, so can modify noun.

For further clarity :

"Twice": "Twice" CANNOT function as an object of the preposition such as "by".
Example:
"... increased by more than twice .." -- WRONG!

On a similar note, "DOUBLE" is an adjective and can not modify verb, but since "Twice" is an adverb it can modify Verb.
Example:-
The same amount of acreage produces double the apple.... -- WRONG
The same amount of acreage produces twice as many apples..... -CORRECT

"twice as many as":

"..., twice as many as ..." is an APPOSITIVE modifier. Appositives must modify some noun that comes immediately before the comma.

However, I am not satisfied with this explanation. I hope that some experts will give their thoughts about this usage!

Lucy

thanks, Lucy

for me becomes clear that A and B impossible because they do not have nouns after "three times as...as". C is wrong because uses adjective without noun. D is correct using adjective with noun. E is wrong using adverb with noun
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Records from the latter half of the 19th century show that in 1876 in Westbridge County there were 1,200 landowners, nearly 12 percent of the state landowner population, three times as many as 1852.

Intended meaning -> comparing 1200 landowners in 1876 to landowners in 1852

A three times as many as 1852 -> in is missing

B three times as much as 1852 -> much cannot be used to compare countable nouns

C triple what it was in 1852 -> it -> what does it refer to?

D triple the figure for 1852 -> for can be replaced with in and is correct.

E thrice the number that was recorded in 1852 -> this option can be written as "thrice the number in 1852". rest of the sentence is not required.
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What if "nearly 12 percent of the state landowner population," was removed? Would the sentence below be correct?

Records from the latter half of the 19th century show that in 1876 in Westbridge County there were 1,200 landowners, three times as many as 1852.

I am trying to understand if the ",three times" has to come directly after what it references to or if it comes down to some other rule.
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Temurkhon wrote:
LucyDang wrote:
Temurkhon wrote:
As I know when we use direc numbers like here "1200 landowners" it is better to use multiplying form like "thrice or three times" than "three times as.... as" form. So, I selected E. But dictionary says that "triple" is also possible

Hey Temurkhon,

You bring out a very good point: When to use twice/thrice/three times, when to use double/triple?

I have found some information from the following website: http://www.beatthegmat.com/question-wit ... 63536.html

As per their discussion:

Why E is wrong : "Thrice is an adverb and can not modify a noun. "

D is correct because double/triple are adjectives, so can modify noun.

For further clarity :

"Twice": "Twice" CANNOT function as an object of the preposition such as "by".
Example:
"... increased by more than twice .." -- WRONG!

On a similar note, "DOUBLE" is an adjective and can not modify verb, but since "Twice" is an adverb it can modify Verb.
Example:-
The same amount of acreage produces double the apple.... -- WRONG
The same amount of acreage produces twice as many apples..... -CORRECT

"twice as many as":

"..., twice as many as ..." is an APPOSITIVE modifier. Appositives must modify some noun that comes immediately before the comma.

However, I am not satisfied with this explanation. I hope that some experts will give their thoughts about this usage!

Lucy

thanks, Lucy

for me becomes clear that A and B impossible because they do not have nouns after "three times as...as". C is wrong because uses adjective without noun. D is correct using adjective with noun. E is wrong using adverb with noun

BE CAREFUL. Thrice the number is correct
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Records from the latter half of the 19th century show that in 1876 in Westbridge County there were 1,200 landowners, nearly 12 percent of the state landowner population, three times as many as 1852.

A three times as many as 1852

B three times as much as 1852

C triple what it was in 1852

D triple the figure for 1852

E thrice the number that was recorded in 1852

in E, the number that was recored in 1852 make no sense.
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