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Reporting that one of its many problems had been the recent extended sales slump in women's apparel, the seven-store retailer said it would start a three-month liquidation sale in all of its stores.

(A) its many problems had been the recent
(B) its many problems has been the recently
(C) its many problems is the recently
(D) their many problems is the recent
(E) their many problems had been the recent
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 [#permalink] New post 29 May 2006, 11:18
I thank you all for your kind answers! Unfortunately my question hasn't been answered...Though I understand perfectly why E is wrong, I still dont grasp why A is right!

How could A be right if the use of ITS is wrong :?:
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 [#permalink] New post 29 May 2006, 11:48
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I ve still trouble with this 2 years old post!

I agree with the tense, but my problem concerns "its".
Normally the pronoun IT refers to non-humans and HE, to human beings.

Thus, i didn't choose A, but E, which is wrong.

Can someone please explain me why ITS instead of HIS, is correct?
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you are correct. "the seven stor retailor" is not a person rather its a retail company name.
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 [#permalink] New post 30 May 2006, 04:53
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karlfurt wrote:
I ve still trouble with this 2 years old post!

I agree with the tense, but my problem concerns "its".
Normally the pronoun IT refers to non-humans and HE, to human beings.

Thus, i didn't choose A, but E, which is wrong.

Can someone please explain me why ITS instead of HIS, is correct?
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you are correct. "the seven stor retailor" is not a person rather its a retail company name.



Thanks, Professor. But....

Hereby the correct CR, (E) contains THEIR instead of ITS(see below). But it doesn't change much what I want to point out.

Assuming that retailer is a company name, I think it is still not correct.
I've replaced retailer with a famous brand, and it sounds strange. In that case, should (E) not be the best of the worse answers?

Reporting that one of its many problems had been the recent extended sales slump in women's apparel, COCA-COLA said it would start a three-month liquidation sale in all of its stores.


Reporting that one of its many problems had been the recent extended sales slump in women's apparel, the seven-store retailer said it would start a three-month liquidation sale in all of its stores.
(A) its many problems had been the recent
(B) its many problems has been the recently
(C) its many problems is the recently
(D) their many problems is the recent
(E) their many problems had been the recent
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 [#permalink] New post 30 May 2006, 18:50
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Professor wrote:
you are correct. "the seven stor retailor" is not a person rather its a retail company name.

Thanks, Professor. But....

Hereby the correct CR, (E) contains THEIR instead of ITS(see below). But it doesn't change much what I want to point out.

Assuming that retailer is a company name, I think it is still not correct.
I've replaced retailer with a famous brand, and it sounds strange. In that case, should (E) not be the best of the worse answers?


now where you see the problem? i donot see any. its correct....

Reporting that one of its many problems had been the recent extended sales slump in women's apparel, the seven-store retailer (COCA-COLA) said it would start a three-month liquidation sale in all of its stores.

E has pronoun problem. how can you use "their" for the seven-store retailer's problem?
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 [#permalink] New post 30 May 2006, 23:09
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now where you see the problem? i donot see any. its correct....

Reporting that one of its many problems had been the recent extended sales slump in women's apparel, the seven-store retailer (COCA-COLA) said it would start a three-month liquidation sale in all of its stores.


Until now, I didn't know that human attributes can be given to things.

I never read in the business press, that a company could report and talk. I would rather say, "the (CEO or spokesman) of Coca said...".

I was probably wrong. Since I started to study the gmat, I have an over-tendency to analyse details. :wink:
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 [#permalink] New post 31 May 2006, 19:13
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now where you see the problem? i donot see any. its correct....

Reporting that one of its many problems had been the recent extended sales slump in women's apparel, the seven-store retailer (COCA-COLA) said it would start a three-month liquidation sale in all of its stores.


Until now, I didn't know that human attributes can be given to things.

I never read in the business press, that a company could report and talk. I would rather say, "the (CEO or spokesman) of Coca said...".

I was probably wrong. Since I started to study the gmat, I have an over-tendency to analyse details. :wink:


Well there are a few more examples of this type where inanimate things can be given attributes of animate things:

One example is given below:

Upset by the recent downturn in production numbers during the first half of the year, the possibility of adding worker incentives was raised by the board of directors at its quarterly meeting.
(A) the possibility of adding worker incentives was raised by the board of directors at its quarterly meeting
(B) the addition of worker incentives was raised as a possibility by the board of directors at its quarterly meeting
(C) added worker incentives was raised by the board of directors at its quarterly meeting as a possibility
(D) the board of directors raised at its quarterly meeting the possibility of worker incentives being added
(E) the board of directors, at its quarterly meeting, raised the possibility of adding worker incentives

Here the answer is E.
And in E "its" is used for "Board of Directors" that was Upset and raised the possibility of adding worker incentives.

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 [#permalink] New post 01 Jun 2006, 02:12
Please tell why it should not be "recently" recent is modifying extended which is a adjective, so we have you the adverb version of it i.e recently.

This is what i understand. Please help me to understnad why i am wrong.
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Reporting that one of its many problems had been the recent [#permalink] New post 05 Aug 2006, 14:41
Reporting that one of its many problems had been the recent extended sales slump in women’s apparel, the seven-store retailer said it would start a three-month liquidation sale in all of its stores.

(A) its many problems had been the recent
(B) its many problems has been the recently
(C) its many problems is the recently
(D) their many problems is the recent
(E) their many problems had been the recent

Does 'recent' play an adverb?
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 [#permalink] New post 05 Aug 2006, 15:01
sales slump is noun
extended is adjective
and recent(ly) maybe adverb :?
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 [#permalink] New post 05 Aug 2006, 15:41
this should be D..

first of all, "its" is the proper use here, their is ambigous...

secondly and most importantly, we need to use the present tense "recent" to emphasis that the problem is still prevalant...that is why the store has to liquidate...

D it is..
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 [#permalink] New post 05 Aug 2006, 15:57
I think I find some serious flaw in Mr./Mrs. fresinha12 explanation



fresinha12 say

first of all, "its" is the proper use here, their is ambigous

BUT

D use "their" not "its" :?
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 [#permalink] New post 05 Aug 2006, 16:16
its MR for U...haha

OK ma bad, I meant A is the right choice here....cause it uses the singular pronoun its to refer to THE SEVEN STORE RETAIL company...

we need recent to infer that the sale slump is still continuing...and we need had been to express the difference between the 2 actions the company did..the problems it "had faced"..and "said"

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fresinha12 say

first of all, "its" is the proper use here, their is ambigous

BUT

D use "their" not "its" :?
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Re: SC --- Slump [#permalink] New post 05 Aug 2006, 17:11
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Reporting that one of its many problems had been the recent extended sales slump in women’s apparel, the seven-store retailer said it would start a three-month liquidation sale in all of its stores.

(A) its many problems had been the recent
(B) its many problems has been the recently
(C) its many problems is the recently
(D) their many problems is the recent
(E) their many problems had been the recent

Does 'recent' play an adverb?


Will go with A.
The the retailer said (earlier action in past).......one of the many problems had been (later action in past)
we need recent (adj) to modify sales
its refers to retailer.
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Re: SC --- Slump [#permalink] New post 05 Aug 2006, 17:19
I'm with A.
the recent extended sales slump

(A) its many problems had been the recent extended sales slump
recent modifies sales slump.. correct!
(B) its many problems has been the recently extended sales slump
recently modifies extended, not sales slump.. changes meaning..
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Re: SC --- Slump [#permalink] New post 05 Aug 2006, 17:27
i have a question: isn't "the seven-store retailer" a person? if so, then why it and not he/she?
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 [#permalink] New post 05 Aug 2006, 20:05
CHEN wrote:
sales slump is noun
extended is adjective
and recent(ly) maybe adverb :?


Exactly! thatz the same question i have.

The OA is A.
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 [#permalink] New post 05 Aug 2006, 21:17
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CHEN wrote:
sales slump is noun
extended is adjective
and recent(ly) maybe adverb :?


Exactly! thatz the same question i have.

The OA is A.

"extended sales slump" is a noun
"recently" is an adverb and can't modify nouns. If we say "recently" is modifying "extended" then the meaning will be "a slump that was extended recently."

So we need "recent". Thats why A is correct.
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 [#permalink] New post 05 Aug 2006, 22:57
I beg to differ. There's nothing wrong with recently extended sales slump. Its just that it renders the meaning of the sentence nonsensical. Its like saying that a bad sales patch was extended.

For example, I think the sentence:

I often feel that my recently extended working hours are proving tiresome.

is perfectly fine.

Just my 2 cents.
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Re: SC --- Slump [#permalink] New post 05 Aug 2006, 23:12
I think the answer is A. D & E can be eliminated, because even though it is seven stores, the term being referenced is 'retailer' which is singular.

B & C do not work because 'recently' is not correct.
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 [#permalink] New post 05 Aug 2006, 23:24
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I beg to differ. There's nothing wrong with recently extended sales slump. Its just that it renders the meaning of the sentence nonsensical. Its like saying that a bad sales patch was extended.

For example, I think the sentence:

I often feel that my recently extended working hours are proving tiresome.

is perfectly fine.

Just my 2 cents.


"extended" in your example is used as a verb and "recently" is correctly modifying "extended"

Your example says:
I often feel that my recently extended "working hours" are proving tiresome.

If we use "extended" as adjective then the sentence becomes:
I feel that my recent "extended working hours" are proving tiresome.

Makes sense???
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