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Researchers agreed that the study of new treatments for heart attack patients was
extremely important but more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty
preceded with ultrasound was or was not any better for heart attack patients than
the
balloon procedure by itself.

A. more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded with
ultrasound was or was not any better for heart attack patients than
B. more research was needed for determining whether or not balloon angioplasty
preceded by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than is
C. that more research was needed to determine whether balloon angioplasty preceded
by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than
D. that more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded
with ultrasound was any better for heart attack patients than
E. that more research was needed for determining that balloon angioplasty preceded
by ultrasound is or is not any better for heart attack patients than is
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Re: SC - treatment [#permalink] New post 13 May 2008, 10:53
saravalli wrote:
Researchers agreed that the study of new treatments for heart attack patients was
extremely important but more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty
preceded with ultrasound was or was not any better for heart attack patients than
the
balloon procedure by itself.

A. more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded with
ultrasound was or was not any better for heart attack patients than
B. more research was needed for determining whether or not balloon angioplasty
preceded by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than is
C. that more research was needed to determine whether balloon angioplasty preceded
by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than
D. that more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded
with ultrasound was any better for heart attack patients than
E. that more research was needed for determining that balloon angioplasty preceded
by ultrasound is or is not any better for heart attack patients than is


C.
"determine whether" is correct here...
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Re: SC - treatment [#permalink] New post 13 May 2008, 12:31
A. more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded with
ultrasound was or was not any better for heart attack patients than
B. more research was needed for determining whether or not balloon angioplasty
preceded by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than is(Improper comparison+incorrect whether usage)
C. that more research was needed to determine whether balloon angioplasty preceded
by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than(My choice)
D. that more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded
with ultrasound was any better for heart attack patients than(determine that- wrong usage)E. that more research was needed for determining that balloon angioplasty preceded
by ultrasound is or is not any better for heart attack patients than is (improper comaprison)
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Re: SC - treatment [#permalink] New post 13 May 2008, 15:01
Good One!

Parallel and Rhetoric construction issues:
Construction Issue: Whether introduces alternatives: So to explicitly imply whether or not is incorrect – Eliminate B
Parallel Issue: angioplasty preceded by ultrasound …. Than… the balloon procedure by itself
Eliminate: A, D
Between C and E:
E: for determining that, is or is not - awkward


A. more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded with
ultrasound was or was not any better for heart attack patients than
B. more research was needed for determining whether or not balloon angioplasty
preceded by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than is
C. that more research was needed to determine whether balloon angioplasty preceded
by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than
D. that more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded
with ultrasound was any better for heart attack patients than
E. that more research was needed for determining that balloon angioplasty preceded
by ultrasound is or is not any better for heart attack patients than is

Answer: C
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Re: SC - treatment [#permalink] New post 13 May 2008, 15:16
Researches agreed that X but that Y is || so eliminate A, B.

saravalli wrote:
Researchers agreed that the study of new treatments for heart attack patients was
extremely important but more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty
preceded with ultrasound was or was not any better for heart attack patients than
the
balloon procedure by itself.

A. more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded with
ultrasound was or was not any better for heart attack patients than

B. more research was needed for determining whether or not balloon angioplasty
preceded by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than is

C. that more research was needed to determine whether balloon angioplasty preceded
by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than


D. that more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded
with ultrasound was any better for heart attack patients than

E. that more research was needed for determining that balloon angioplasty preceded
by ultrasound is or is not any better for heart attack patients than is
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Re: SC - treatment [#permalink] New post 13 May 2008, 19:09
This is a really tricky one and I got it completely wrong by picking C. For those who care to know, this question is from the ScoreTop Verbal Sets (Set 30, Question 29) and the answer key says the answer is "B". Am I hallucinating here? That choice B is more convoluted than Hillary's logic for the US presidential nomination. Can someone explain what is so good about this choice B? Praying that it is a misprint in the ScoreTop answer keys.
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Re: SC - treatment [#permalink] New post 13 May 2008, 20:20
C for me too..
i cant figure out how scoretop answers this as B
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Re: SC - treatment [#permalink] New post 13 May 2008, 20:53
saravalli wrote:
Researchers agreed that the study of new treatments for heart attack patients was
extremely important but more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty
preceded with ultrasound was or was not any better for heart attack patients than
the
balloon procedure by itself.

A. more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded with
ultrasound was or was not any better for heart attack patients than
B. more research was needed for determining whether or not balloon angioplasty
preceded by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than is
C. that more research was needed to determine whether balloon angioplasty preceded
by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than
D. that more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded
with ultrasound was any better for heart attack patients than
E. that more research was needed for determining that balloon angioplasty preceded
by ultrasound is or is not any better for heart attack patients than is

Yes even i am confused
in B:whether or not is redundant but exact parallelism ultrasound is any better....than is
in C: whether is correctly used but... than is is missing

please correct
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Re: SC - treatment [#permalink] New post 13 May 2008, 21:03
369. In assessing the problems faced by rural migrant workers, the question of whether they are better off materially than the urban working poor is irrelevant.(A) In assessing the problems faced by rural migrant workers, the question of whether they are better off materially than the urban working poor is irrelevant.
(B) The question of whether the rural migrant worker is better off materially than the urban working poor is irrelevant in assessing the problems that they face.
(C) A question that is irrelevant in assessing the problems that rural migrant workers face is whether they are better off materially than the urban working poor.
(D) In an assessment of the problems faced by rural migrant workers, the question of whether they are better off materially than the urban working poor is irrelevant.
(E) The question of whether the rural migrant worker is better off materially than the urban working poor is irrelevant in an assessment of the problems that they face.

OA is D
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Re: SC - treatment [#permalink] New post 13 May 2008, 23:05
Guys, please note that C, D and E should be eliminated right at first because they begin with 'that'. 'Researchers agreed that.... but that...' sounds awkward and wordy. I think B is correct and the OA is not misprinted at all.

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Re: SC - treatment [#permalink] New post 14 May 2008, 05:53
OA is B.Thanks :-D

I too went with C.. :?
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Re: SC - treatment [#permalink] New post 14 May 2008, 06:04
Should the usage of "but more research was needed for [idiom?]" be needed here? Why pick "but that"? I think this one was testing "was needed for doing" against "was needed to do" something.
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Re: SC - treatment [#permalink] New post 14 May 2008, 06:06
OA must be wrong...
"whether or not" is not correct.
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Re: SC - treatment [#permalink] New post 14 May 2008, 10:55
Although I would have also initially selected C. After viewing the OA, I feel this could be a possible reason for why the OA is B. Please correct my reasoning if you disagree.

C lacks parrallelism present in B.

In B its mentioned " preceded by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than is"

In C this parallelism is missing.
" that more research was needed to determine whether balloon angioplasty preceded by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than [ "is" - Missing]
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Re: SC - treatment [#permalink] New post 14 May 2008, 10:57
Although I would have also initially selected C. After viewing the OA, I feel this could be a possible reason for why the OA is B. Please correct my reasoning if you disagree.

C lacks parrallelism present in B.

In B its mentioned " preceded by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than is"

In C this parallelism is missing.
" that more research was needed to determine whether balloon angioplasty preceded by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than [ "is" - Missing]
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Re: SC - treatment [#permalink] New post 14 May 2008, 18:59
saravalli wrote:
Researchers agreed that the study of new treatments for heart attack patients was
extremely important but more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty
preceded with ultrasound was or was not any better for heart attack patients than
the
balloon procedure by itself.

A. more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded with
ultrasound was or was not any better for heart attack patients than
B. more research was needed for determining whether or not balloon angioplasty
preceded by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than is
C. that more research was needed to determine whether balloon angioplasty preceded
by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than
D. that more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded
with ultrasound was any better for heart attack patients than
E. that more research was needed for determining that balloon angioplasty preceded
by ultrasound is or is not any better for heart attack patients than is


I choose C.

A - using was or was not indicates past tense and doesn't make sense in that form.
B - determining not parallel to proceeded
D - changes the meaning and derives a conclusion
E - is or is not joined with "... than is" is ambiguous; you lose and understanding of what "is" is referring back to in this case.
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Re: SC - treatment [#permalink] New post 14 May 2008, 19:00
wtf B? :shock:
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Re: SC - treatment [#permalink] New post 23 May 2008, 15:35
No, B can not be the answer 'whether or not' is always wrong.

Gotta be C.
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