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Researchers agreed that the study of new treatments for heart attack patients was
extremely important but more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty
preceded with ultrasound was or was not any better for heart attack patients than
the
balloon procedure by itself.
A. more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded with
ultrasound was or was not any better for heart attack patients than
B. more research was needed for determining whether or not balloon angioplasty
preceded by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than is
C. that more research was needed to determine whether balloon angioplasty preceded
by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than
D. that more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded
with ultrasound was any better for heart attack patients than
E. that more research was needed for determining that balloon angioplasty preceded
by ultrasound is or is not any better for heart attack patients than is
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Re: Tough SC [#permalink] New post 25 Sep 2009, 02:13
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Re: Tough SC [#permalink] New post 25 Sep 2009, 04:02
A is the best
B & C - whether is not used properly
D - that not used propely
E - too lengthy
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Re: Tough SC [#permalink] New post 25 Sep 2009, 08:59
"was or was not" is kind of awkward for me. So I choose B.
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Re: Tough SC [#permalink] New post 25 Sep 2009, 09:22
IMO B
A was or was not wrong
C, D Need to is not idimomatic, isnt it?
E is or is not doesnt sound right
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Re: Tough SC [#permalink] New post 25 Sep 2009, 10:07
C
REASON: 'that' is reqd after but for llism... so left with choices C,D & E...
determining a preference.. 'whether' is correct..... so C
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Re: Tough SC [#permalink] New post 26 Sep 2009, 19:35
OA is given as B. But I think it should be C. OA is not reliable in sets.
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Researchers agreed that the study of new treatments for heart attack patients was
extremely important but more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty
preceded with ultrasound was or was not any better for heart attack patients than the
balloon procedure by itself.
A. more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded with
ultrasound was or was not any better for heart attack patients than -- was or was not -- awkward
B. more research was needed for determining whether or not balloon angioplasty - "Whether or not" is not correct usage
preceded by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than is
C. that more research was needed to determine whether balloon angioplasty preceded
by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than
D. that more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded
with ultrasound was any better for heart attack patients than - "preceded with" is not a correct idiom
E. that more research was needed for determining that balloon angioplasty preceded
by ultrasound is or is not any better for heart attack patients than is - is or is not is awkward.
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Re: Tough SC [#permalink] New post 04 Oct 2009, 01:23
gmatspider wrote:
Researchers agreed that the study of new treatments for heart attack patients was
extremely important but more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty
preceded with ultrasound was or was not any better for heart attack patients than the
balloon procedure by itself.
A. more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded with
ultrasound was or was not any better for heart attack patients than -- was or was not -- awkward
B. more research was needed for determining whether or not balloon angioplasty - "Whether or not" is not correct usage
preceded by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than is
C. that more research was needed to determine whether balloon angioplasty preceded
by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than
D. that more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded
with ultrasound was any better for heart attack patients than - "preceded with" is not a correct idiom
E. that more research was needed for determining that balloon angioplasty preceded
by ultrasound is or is not any better for heart attack patients than is - is or is not is awkward.

In option B, use of "whether or not" is perfectly correct. Option C is incorrect because the result of " balloon angioplasty preceded by ultrasound" is comparted with the procedure "balloon procedure by itself". Where as the intent was to compare result of 1'st with the result of 2'nd so "is" should be present after than.
So the answer should be "B"
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Re: Tough SC [#permalink] New post 04 Oct 2009, 19:40
Well i would like to look at it this way....

repeated usage of 'that' ruins the chances of c d e. " researchers agreed that......but that ....." unecessary usage !!!!

its either A or B. In A was or was not isnt the correct usage,!

In B whether or not is used but its the right usage......if u have two options usageof whether is perfectly acceptable!!!
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Re: Tough SC [#permalink] New post 14 Oct 2009, 14:21
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Actually it is a question from gmatprep, the OA is C. I have attached the screen shot of the question.
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Re: Tough SC [#permalink] New post 22 Oct 2011, 00:55
crejoc wrote:
Actually it is a question from gmatprep, the OA is C. I have attached the screen shot of the question.
For explanation click here..
http://www.manhattangmat.com/forums/gma ... -t671.html


Thanks for the link buddy. +1 for C.
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Re: Tough SC [#permalink] New post 29 Oct 2011, 21:30
crejoc wrote:
Actually it is a question from gmatprep, the OA is C. I have attached the screen shot of the question.
For explanation click here..
http://www.manhattangmat.com/forums/gma ... -t671.html


Thanks for posting the OA buddy. I had gone with C initially but after going through posts had the feeling that I had made a mistake. Thanks for clarifying.

C wins. Parallelism.
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Re: Tough SC [#permalink] New post 16 Aug 2012, 09:44
crejoc wrote:
Actually it is a question from gmatprep, the OA is C. I have attached the screen shot of the question.
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You deserve a pat on your back for this! Thanks :)
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Re: Researchers agreed that the study of new treatments for [#permalink] New post 18 Aug 2012, 19:50
I did not like using that to start off the sentence. Went with A even though I did not like it either. Sounded better
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Re: Researchers agreed that the study of new treatments for [#permalink] New post 28 Aug 2012, 21:14
Researchers agreed that the study of new treatments for heart attack patients was
extremely important but more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty
preceded with ultrasound was or was not any better for heart attack patients than
the
balloon procedure by itself.

A. more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded with
ultrasound was or was not any better for heart attack patients than
B. more research was needed for determining whether or not balloon angioplasty
preceded by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than is
C. that more research was needed to determine whether balloon angioplasty preceded
by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than
D. that more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded
with
ultrasound was any better for heart attack patients than
E. that more research was needed for determining that balloon angioplasty preceded
by ultrasound is or is not any better for heart attack patients than is


"preceded by" is correct idiom, hence eliminate A & D.
"needed to determine" is correct idiom, hence eliminate B & E.

I picked C for an answer, but I'm still having doubt whether C may contain the inconsistent tense with its "is"?
I know that I am not supposed to question the OA, but could someone kindly advise why we are fine with "is" in option C?
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Re: Researchers agreed that the study of new treatments for [#permalink] New post 03 Sep 2012, 16:19
A has to be the answer for past tense construction throughout and more..than construction looks good
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the reduced Stem : .......................more research was needed to determine that X was or was not any better ..............than............. Y

First split :

A. X.......................was or was not any better ............ than.........Y = ( WAS or WASNOT = does it makes any sense ?) = Eliminate

B. X............ ..........is any better .....................................than is.......Y = ( No need of IS , X is compared with Y, X is better THAN Y aptly conveys the intent ) = Eliminated

C. X.......................is any better ...................................than..........Y = Good , ON HOLD = passes the 1st litmus

D. X.......................was any better ................................than..........Y = Good , ON HOLD = passes the 1st litmus

E. X.......................is or is not any better ......................than is........Y = this is Crap = Eliminated

Thus we are left with C n D : 2nd Split

D. more research was needed to determine..............that X was any better ................than Y = THAT doesn't bring out the intent, Further WAS is wrong contextually

C. more research was needed to determine..............whether X is any better .............than Y = Whether n IS perfect combo

thus 1. WHETHER scores over THAT, 2. IS scores over WAS

Leading to C , my take
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Re: Researchers agreed that the study of new treatments for [#permalink] New post 04 Sep 2012, 00:41
But parallelism that is not required i think
because 'agreed that' is part of an idiom

but construction of 'C' is better.
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Re: Researchers agreed that the study of new treatments for [#permalink] New post 05 Sep 2012, 06:38
I pick C since it uses parallelism correctly and it clear and concise.
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