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Rhinoceroses..!!! [#permalink]  06 Aug 2008, 19:22
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21. A proposal has been made to trim the horns from rhinoceroses to discourage poachers; the question is whether tourists will continue to visit game parks and see rhinoceroses after their horns are trimmed.
(A) whether tourists will continue to visit game parks and see rhinoceroses after their horns are
(B) whether tourists will continue to visit game parks to see one once their horns are
(C) whether tourists will continue to visit game parks to see rhinoceroses once the animals’ horns have been
(D) if tourists will continue to visit game parks and see rhinoceroses once the animals’ horns are
(E) if tourists will continue to visit game parks to see one after the animals’ horns have been

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Re: Rhinoceroses..!!! [#permalink]  18 Jan 2011, 04:03
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21. A proposal has been made to trim the horns from rhinoceroses to discourage poachers; the question is whether tourists will continue to visit game parks and see rhinoceroses after their horns are trimmed.
(A) whether tourists will continue to visit game parks and see rhinoceroses after their horns are
(B) whether tourists will continue to visit game parks to see one once their horns are
(C) whether tourists will continue to visit game parks to see rhinoceroses once the animals’ horns have been
(D) if tourists will continue to visit game parks and see rhinoceroses once the animals’ horns are
(E) if tourists will continue to visit game parks to see one after the animals’ horns have been

Two step process:
Step 1:
Gottesschaf wrote:
I answered it in another way: The question to me is much rather whether "tourists come to the park and see rhinoceroses" or whether "tourists come to the park to see rhinoceroses". I think this answer (C) conveys the message much better

This is good thinking. For example, "I went to the store and saw Mary" means I had no intention of seeing her and she happened to be there. "I went to the store to see Mary" means I knew Mary would be at the store and the purpose of my trip was to see her.
In our sentence the question is whether tourists will make a trip with the purpose of seeing the rhinos (not if the tourists will accidentally see rhinos). A and D - crossed off.

Step 2: As mentioned before, the pronoun "their" is a little ambiguous, as is the use of "one" in B and E. "One" needs to be much clearer. Here it could refer to "one" rhino or "one" horn. B and E - crossed off.
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Re: Rhinoceroses..!!! [#permalink]  06 Aug 2008, 21:04
21. A proposal has been made to trim the horns from rhinoceroses to discourage poachers; the question is whether tourists will continue to visit game parks and see rhinoceroses after their horns are trimmed.
(A) whether tourists will continue to visit game parks and see rhinoceroses after their horns are
(B) whether tourists will continue to visit game parks to see one once their horns are
(C) whether tourists will continue to visit game parks to see rhinoceroses once the animals’ horns have been
(D) if tourists will continue to visit game parks and see rhinoceroses once the animals’ horns are
(E) if tourists will continue to visit game parks to see one after the animals’ horns have been

IMO A

B-PRONOUN ERROR
C-UNNECESSARILY WORDY
D-'IF' NOT PREFERRED OVER 'WHETHER'
E-'IF' NOT PREFERRED OVER 'WHETHER'
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Re: Rhinoceroses..!!! [#permalink]  06 Aug 2008, 22:06
Ok , here is what i feel

1 "their" is ambiguous ; pointing to rhino or people ??
2 same "their"
3 This makes sense (though wordy but conveys the meaning 'right')
4 ' If ' shud not be used
5 same as 4

ANS : 3
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Re: Rhinoceroses..!!! [#permalink]  06 Aug 2008, 22:09
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21. A proposal has been made to trim the horns from rhinoceroses to discourage poachers; the question is whether tourists will continue to visit game parks and see rhinoceroses after their horns are trimmed.
(A) whether tourists will continue to visit game parks and see rhinoceroses after their horns are
(B) whether tourists will continue to visit game parks to see one once their horns are
(C) whether tourists will continue to visit game parks to see rhinoceroses once the animals’ horns have been
(D) if tourists will continue to visit game parks and see rhinoceroses once the animals’ horns are
(E) if tourists will continue to visit game parks to see one after the animals’ horns have been

IMO A

B-PRONOUN ERROR
C-UNNECESSARILY WORDY
D-'IF' NOT PREFERRED OVER 'WHETHER'
E-'IF' NOT PREFERRED OVER 'WHETHER'

Even i went for A...but correct answer as per 1000 SC is C.
I am not able to make out why do we need past perfect "have been" ?
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Re: Rhinoceroses..!!! [#permalink]  06 Aug 2008, 22:10
This is the OG question. You can get better explanation.
C is correct.
Reason: Pronoun should correctly identify corresponding Noun. Here "their" is not clear whether it is referring to animals or visitors.
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Re: Rhinoceroses..!!! [#permalink]  06 Aug 2008, 22:16
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Ok , here is what i feel

1 "their" is ambiguous ; pointing to rhino or people ??
2 same "their"
3 This makes sense (though wordy but conveys the meaning 'right')
4 ' If ' shud not be used
5 same as 4

ANS : 3

Is "their" ambiguous here since logically people can't have "horns" .I am confused should we think "logically" while making out pronoun referents ?
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Re: Rhinoceroses..!!! [#permalink]  07 Aug 2008, 21:02
THX FOR THE EXPLANATION GUYS..

I'VE GOT TO WORK ON PRONOUNS..
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Re: Rhinoceroses..!!! [#permalink]  14 Dec 2010, 22:21
Shouldnt the answer have IF becuase it is describing a hypothetical situation and not one with alternatives(whether)?
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Re: Rhinoceroses..!!! [#permalink]  11 Jan 2011, 14:38
diehard4 wrote:
21. A proposal has been made to trim the horns from rhinoceroses to discourage poachers; the question is whether tourists will continue to visit game parks and see rhinoceroses after their horns are trimmed.
(A) whether tourists will continue to visit game parks and see rhinoceroses after their horns are
(B) whether tourists will continue to visit game parks to see one once their horns are
(C) whether tourists will continue to visit game parks to see rhinoceroses once the animals’ horns have been
(D) if tourists will continue to visit game parks and see rhinoceroses once the animals’ horns are
(E) if tourists will continue to visit game parks to see one after the animals’ horns have been

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I Will also go with A..

C & D are out because they USE IF.
B is also out because here to see one once their horns to see one(singular) once their(plural) is wrong.
C is wordy So A is the right answer...
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Re: Rhinoceroses..!!! [#permalink]  12 Jan 2011, 01:15
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Even i went for A...but correct answer as per 1000 SC is C.
I am not able to make out why do we need past perfect "have been" ?

'have been' is present perfect and not past perfect. 'Had been' is past perfect.

C should be absolutely correct, A has a pronoun error.

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 Shouldnt the answer have IF becuase it is describing a hypothetical situation and not one with alternatives(whether)?

Alternative 1 - whether tourists will come

Alternative 2 - whether tourists will not come

There is no hypothetical situation mentioned in the question.
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Re: Rhinoceroses..!!! [#permalink]  12 Jan 2011, 16:00
I answered it in another way: The question to me is much rather whether "tourists come to the park and see rhinoceroses" or whether "tourists come to the park to see rhinoceroses". I think this answer (C) conveys the message much better and resolves the pronoun problem (their) as well.
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Re: Rhinoceroses..!!! [#permalink]  15 Jan 2011, 01:46
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Re: Rhinoceroses..!!! [#permalink]  19 Jan 2011, 19:30
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Re: Rhinoceroses..!!! [#permalink]  26 Dec 2011, 05:40
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Re: Rhinoceroses..!!! [#permalink]  11 Jan 2012, 23:23
C but not A
They visit to see, not just visit and in addition see.
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Re: Rhinoceroses..!!! [#permalink]  21 May 2013, 04:14
D and E are out .

A and B have pronoun error as discussed which is not in C.
But i would like add one more point that C uses the correct verb tense(Present perfect)
"whether tourists will ....... once the animals’ horns have been" i.e if the proposal goes thru..the horns of tha animals will be trimmed. So the EFFECT remains.Pls refer MGMAT SC if you dont understand EFFECT analysis here.

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Re: Rhinoceroses..!!! [#permalink]  21 May 2013, 06:55
The methodical steps to this issue may be:
1. This is question of deciding on a dilemma. Hence the conditional ‘if’ is irrelevant; dump D and E.
2. “To see” denotes the purpose of a visit and better than ‘and see’. Hence A is out.
3. To see “one” after “their” horns: the subject - pronoun number mismatch is too glaring.
4. C is the remainder
IMO, the difference in the use of present perfect or present tense is rather too thin. Both are acceptable in formal writing I suppose. As in this case: - I wonder whether I can enjoy bones once my teeth are broken - is as good as - I wonder whether I can enjoy bones once my teeth have been broken - nothing much to choose from. But this is just my feeling.
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