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Right triangle PQR is to be constructed in the xy-plane so that the right angle is at P and PR is parallel to the x-axis. The x and Y coordinates of P,Q and R are to be integers that satisfy the inequalitites -4≤ X≤ 5 and 6≤ y≤ 16. How many different triangles with these properties could be constructed?

A. 110
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C. 9900
D. 10000
E. 12100
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Re: Arithmetic/OG question.. [#permalink] New post 23 Dec 2009, 20:50
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total values for x=10;y=11

x1,y1=10*11.......................coordinates of 1st pnt
x2,y2=9*1(y2=y1)............... coordinates of 2nd pnt y coordinates will be same as that of 1st pnt bcoz it is parallel to x axis
x3,y3=1*10(x2=x3)..........coordinates of 3rd pt. x coordinates will be same as that of 2nd point bcoz to make a right angle it has to be parallel to y axis

tot ways=10*11*9*1*1*10=9900


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Re: Arithmetic/OG question.. [#permalink] New post 12 Apr 2010, 03:56
Hello,
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x1,y1=10*11.......................coordinates of 1st pnt
x2,y2=9*1(y2=y1)............... coordinates of 2nd pnt y coordinates will be same as that of 1st pnt bcoz it is parallel to x axis
x3,y3=1*10(x2=x3)..........coordinates of 3rd pt. x coordinates will be same as that of 2nd point bcoz to make a right angle it has to be parallel to y axis


you mentioned, y2=y1. but calculation value is different. same for x2 and x3.
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Re: Arithmetic/OG question.. [#permalink] New post 12 Apr 2010, 05:23
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Can anyone please tell me how to figure this out...

Right triangle PQR is to be constructed in the xy-plane so that the right angle is at P and PR is parallel to the x-axis. The x and Y coordinates of P,Q and R are to be integers that satisfy the inequalitites -4≤ X≤ 5 and 6≤ y≤ 16. How many different triangles with these properties could be constructed?

A)110
B)1100
C)9900
D)10000
E)12100

thanks..


We have the rectangle with dimensions 10*11 (10 horizontal dots and 11 vertical). PQ is parallel to y-axis and PR is parallel to x-axis.

Choose the (x,y) coordinates for vertex P (right angle): 10C1*11C1;
Choose the x coordinate for vertex R (as y coordinate is fixed by A): 9C1, (10-1=9 as 1 horizontal dot is already occupied by A);
Choose the y coordinate for vertex Q (as x coordinate is fixed by A): 10C1, (11-1=10 as 1 vertical dot is already occupied by A).

10C1*11C1*9C1*10C1=9900.

Answer: C.
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Re: Arithmetic/OG question.. [#permalink] New post 12 Apr 2010, 12:50
10P2 *11C1*10C1 gives the same :-D
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Re: Arithmetic/OG question.. [#permalink] New post 16 Apr 2010, 07:23
[quote="xcusemeplz2009"]imo C
total values for x=10;y=11

x1,y1=10*11.......................coordinates of 1st pnt
x2,y2=9*1(y2=y1)............... coordinates of 2nd pnt y coordinates will be same as that of 1st pnt bcoz it is parallel to x axis
x3,y3=1*10(x2=x3)..........coordinates of 3rd pt. x coordinates will be same as that of 2nd point bcoz to make a right angle it has to be parallel to y axis

tot ways=10*11*9*1*1*10=9900

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Re: Arithmetic/OG question.. [#permalink] New post 17 Apr 2010, 22:57
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Hello,
Pls explain.
you mentioned, y2=y1. but calculation value is different. same for x2 and x3.

y2=y1 means the value of y2 will be same as that of y1 , therefore the # of ways in which we can select y2 is only 1
and that for x2 will be 9 as one value is taken by x1
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Re: Arithmetic/OG question...Too many triangles! [#permalink] New post 11 Jul 2010, 06:23
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I disagree with 10 possible x values for P, because the length of PR must be an integer

P(X1,Y1)

X1 can be {-4,4} but not 5
Y1 can be {6,15} but not 15

I actually come up with 8100 triangles the regular way


And then a question

What in the question excludes a triangle like this, and why is this triangle not considered different?

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Right Triangle PQR, OG11 Q248 (Why not 4 Triangles?) [#permalink] New post 11 Jul 2010, 21:38
This question as been bothering me for approaching 24 hours. Please help!

The question reads:

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Right triangle PQR is to be constructed in the xy-plane so that the right angle is at P and PR is parallel to the x-axis. The x and Y coordinates of P,Q and R are to be integers that satisfy the inequalitites -4≤ X≤ 5 and 6≤ y≤ 16. How many different triangles with these properties could be constructed?

A)110
B)1100
C)9900
D)10000
E)12100


First: I see these four basic triangle orientations. I do not see why the question does not consider them.
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Each triangle shows PR parallel to the x-axis
Each triangle shows the right angle at P

Second: If we exclude all the triangles except the one in the upper right. I keep coming up with only 8100 possible triangles

Because Point P and Point R share a y value, they must both be integers, and they must be different (the triangles must have 3 sides)
Because Point P and Point Q share an x value, they must both be integers, and they must be different (the triangles must have 3 sides)
We know Point P coordinates are ( -4≤ X≤ 4 , 6≤ y≤ 15)



Because we know that each x and each y must be integers, the two legs of the triangle have limited possible lengths

1 ≤ length PR ≤ 9

1 ≤ length PQ ≤ 10


With this in mind I find only 8100 possible triangles resulting from ( 90 coordinate pairs possible for P times 9 lengths for PR times 10 lengths for PQ = 90 * 9 * 10)
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Re: Right Triangle PQR, OG11 Q248 (Why not 4 Triangles?) [#permalink] New post 12 Jul 2010, 05:49
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2 more hours and I have it figured out.

Thinking about this on the coordinate plane confuses me more than just thinking about it as a combination problem.

P (A,B)
R (C,B)
Q (A,D)

So you need four values to solve the problem.

2 x-values {A and C}

2 y-values {B and D}

When you approach the question this way the orientation of the triangle is irrelevant. Because by using the same x-value for point P and point Q along with the same y-value for point point P and point R. The right angle is at P and PR is parallel to the x-axis.

So I need 2 x values from -4≤ X≤ 5.
Pick the first one from 10 choices
Pick the second one from 9 choices

10*9 = 90



and I need 2 y values from 6≤ y≤ 16
Pick the first one from 11 choices
Pick the second one from 10 choices

11*10 = 110



So combine the 2 and we have 9900 (110*90) possible triangles.

I realized my error when I started to make a table of the possible coordinates for point P using the triangle in the upper right of the four choices

With point P and (4,6) I realized that I only have one possible length for PR
*If P is (4,6)
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the triangle has the orientation in the upper right of my image.
*Then R must be (5,6)

That got me back to the starting line and my wonderful Chinese girlfriend helped me going in the correct direction.

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Re: Applied Geometry PS, OG12 #229 - Better Explanation Wanted! [#permalink] New post 18 Sep 2010, 02:45
X can have 10 values & Y can 11 values.
Just choose a random Point P. Now, P has both x & y values. So, P can have 11*10=110 values.
PR is vertical. So, the y coordinates of P & R would be equal. Since PQR is a right triangle, QR would be perpendicular to the X axis & eventually parallel to the Y axis. So, the X coordinates of P & Q would be the same.

Since, we've fixed P. Q has the same value for x as that of P. So, there will be 10 (since 1 value of y is already taken by P) possible options for y coordinates for Q. Similarly, as P & R have the same value for y coordinates, R will have 9 possible values for x.
So, the number of triangles would be 110*9*10=9,900.
We're just calculating the number of variations after fixing a point.. P in this case. You'd get the solution if you fixed either Q or R.
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Official answer is "C" - 9900

This was a hard question for me.

Anyway, I took the following approach to solve this.

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When y=6
We know -4<=x<=+5, there are 10 integral points.
The points are: {-4,6},{-3,6},{-2,6},{-1,6},{0,6},{1,6},{2,6},{3,6},{4,6},{5,6}
So, number of distinct line segments that can be formed are 10C2=45.
And these line segments PR as it should be parallel to x-axis.
With every line segment there can be 20 triangles:

Let's see how:

consider line segment with points: P={-4,6} and R={1,6}
We know there are 10 points above P that can serve us as Q. Q should always be
vertically above or below point P because P is the right angle.
So Q can be: {-4,7},{-4,8},{-4,9},{-4,10},{-4,11},{-4,12},{-4,13},{-4,14},{-4,15},{-4,16}
See for yourself that now: for just one segment PQ we have 10 triangles.
PQR.
However, we can flip the points on the same line segment PR, so that P={1,6} and R={-4,6}
We know there are 10 points above P that can serve us as Q. Q should always be
vertically above or below point P because P is the right angle.
So in this case Q can be:
{1,7},{1,8},{1,9},{1,10},{1,11},{1,12},{1,13},{1,14},{1,15},{1,16}
See for yourself that for just one segment PQ we have another 10 triangles.
So, a total of 20 distinct triangles for just one line segment.

thus: a total of 20 * 10C2 = 20 * 45 = 900 triangles for all line segments where PR
is on y=6.

Remember, we were talking only about PR that lies on y=6 line.

There are 11 such lines between y=6 and y=16 i.e. 16-6+1.

Thus; a total of 900 * 11 = 9900 triangles can be formed with given conditions.
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Re: Arithmetic/OG question.. [#permalink] New post 31 Jan 2011, 10:40
I could not solve this problem in the allotted time, but here is what my tutor says - actually same as aneeshdatar suggested, but in other words:

It is an area bounded by x = -4 and x = 5 (10 options for x) and by y = 6 and y = 16 (11 options for y). Point P can have 110 possible points (10*11).

Since PR is parallel to the x-axis, we know that point R must have the same y-coordinate as P. Point R could be either to the left or right of point P on the plane, i.e. it could lie on any point on the same horizontal line as P, save for the point on which P already lies. This means that there are 9 possible values of point R for every point P. By multiplication of 110 possible values of P with the 9 possible values of R, we get 990 possible placements.

Whereas all triangles have a right angle at P, point Q has the same x-coordinate as P. Following the same principle as above, we can conclude that point Q can be in any of 10 different points (11-1). We multiply 990 by 10 and get 9900.
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Re: Right triangle PQR is to be constructed in the xy-plane so [#permalink] New post 11 Oct 2013, 21:09
Right triangle PQR is to be constructed in the xy-plane so that the right angle is at P and PR is parallel to the x-axis. The x and Y coordinates of P,Q and R are to be integers that satisfy the inequalitites -4≤ X≤ 5 and 6≤ y≤ 16. How many different triangles with these properties could be constructed?

A. 110
B. 1100
C. 9900
D. 10000
E. 12100

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Re: Right triangle PQR is to be constructed in the xy-plane so [#permalink] New post 18 Oct 2013, 06:51
In the figure shown

When P is fixed , q can take 10 positions( remaining 10 co-ordinates up the y axis) and R can take 9 positions ( x-axis) .
Hence 10*9 = 90 traingles
and p itself can take - 10 *11 positions =110
hence 90*110 = 9900
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Re: Right triangle PQR is to be constructed in the xy-plane so [#permalink] New post 08 Mar 2014, 04:50
hi, can you please help me to find error with below approach.

here we need to select 3 points such that
A = (x,y)
B = (x1,y)
C = (x,y1)

So effectively we need to select 2 values of X : x and x1 and 2 values of Y : y and y1

2 values of X can be selected in 10C2 ways = 45
2 values of Y can be selected in 11C2 ways = 55

so number of triangles will be 45x55 = 2475
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