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Rivaling the pyramids of Egypt or even the ancient cities of the Maya as an achievement, the army of terra-cotta warriors created to protect Qin Shi Huang, China's first emperor, in his afterlife is more than 2,000 years old and took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete.

(A) the army of terra-cotta warriors created to protect Qin Shi Huang, China's first emperor, in his afterlife is more than 2,000 years old and took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete.
(B) Qin Shi huang, China's first emperor, was protected in his afterlife by an army of terracotta warriors that was created more than 2,000 years ago by 700,000 artisans who took more than 36 years to complete it
(C) it took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to create an army of terra-cotta warriors more than 2,000 years ago that would protect Qin Shi Huang, China's first emperor, in his afterlife
(D) more than 2,000 years ago, 700,000 artisans worked more than 36 years to create an army of terra-cotta warriors to protect Qin Shi Huang, China's first emperor, in his afterlife
(E) more than 36 years were needed to complete the army of terra-cotta warriors that 700,000 artisans created 2,000 years ago to protect Qin Shi Huang, China's first emperor, in his afterlife


Rivaling the pyramids of Egypt or even the ancient cities of the Maya as an achievement, the army of terra-cotta warriors created to protect Qin Shi Huang, China's first emperor, in his afterlifeis more than 2,000 years old and took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete.

subject is: army
there are 2 verbs for this subject==>is and took

created : in this sentence==>this is not acting as a verb here ..here it is acting as a verb -ed modifier==>describing ARMY.

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I was reviewing Official Guide and came across this question. Do not the two verbs in a compound sentence have to agree in tense(Parallelism)?
The answer is (A). Thanks for your clarification.

Rivaling the pyramids of Egypt or even the ancient cities of the Maya as an achievement, the armv of terra-cotta warriors created to protect Qin Shi Huang. China's first emperor, in his afterlife is more than 2.000 years old and took 700.000 artisans more than 36 years to complete.
(A) the army of terra-cotta warriors created to protect Qin Shi Huang, China's first emperor, in his afterlife is more than 2,000 years old and took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete
(B) Qin Shi Huang, China's first emperor, was protected in his afterlife by an army of terra cotta warriors that was created more than 2,000 years ago by 700,000 artisans who took more than 36 years to complete it
(C) it took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to create an army of terra-cotta warriors, more than 2,000 years ago that would protect Qin Shi Huang, China's first emperor, in his afterlife
(D) more than 2,000 years ago, 700,000 artisans worked more than 36 years to create an army of terra-cotta warriors to protect Qin Shi Huang, China's first emperor, in his afterlife
(E) more than 36 years were needed to complete the army of terra-cotta warriors that 700,000 artisans created 2,000 years ago to protect Qin Shi Huang, China's first emperor, in his afterlife
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I was reviewing Official Guide and came across this question. Do not the two verbs in a compound sentence have to agree in tense(Parallelism)?
The answer is (A). Thanks for your clarification.

Rivaling the pyramids of Egypt or even the ancient cities of the Maya as an achievement, the army of terra-cotta warriors created to protect Qin Shi Huang, China's first emperor, in his afterlife is more than 2.000 years old and took 700.000 artisans more than 36 years to complete.


Let's strip away everything from the sentence so we can better understand what's going on here.

"..., the army of terra-cotta warriors ... is more than 2,000 years old and took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete."

Now we have the basics here. We can see that we have two verbs: "is" and "took." Now, it's great that you are thinking about parallelism here, but actually these two parts are parallel. Parallelism applies to the structure of the sentence, the order of the words, not the tenses. Since we are talking about two different events in time, we need to use two different verb tenses. The first verb is in present tense because the author is stating a fact about the army. The second verb is about something that was done in the past and ended in the past. So we only need a simple past tense verb to convey this idea.

I hope that you find this explanation helpful. :)
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Rivaling the pyramids of Egypt or even the ancient cities of the Maya s an achievement, the army of terra-cotta warriors created to protect Qin Shi Huang, China's first emperor, in his afterlife is more than 2,000 years old and took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete.
A. the same
B. Qin Shi huang, China's first emperor, was protected in his afterlife by an army of terra-cotta warriors that was created more than 2,000 years ago by 700,000 artisans who took more than 36 years to complete it.
C. it took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to create an army of terra-cotta warriors more than 2,000 years ago that would protect Qin Shi Huang, China's first emperor, in his afterlife.
D. more than 2,000 years ago, 700,000 artisans worked more than 36 years to create an army of terra-cotta warriors to protect Qin Shi Huang, China's first emperor, in his afterlife.
E. more than 36 years wre needed to complete the army of terra-cotta warrios that 700,000 artisans created 2,000 years ago to protect Qin Shi huang, China's first emperor, in his afterlife.


Q Can`t there be 2 modifiers back to back modifying the subject?
Here in option D, why both Rivaling the pyramids of Egypt or even the ancient cities of the Maya s an achievement and more than 2,000 years ago, do not modify 700,000 artisans
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Rivaling the pyramids of Egypt or even the ancient cities of the Maya s an achievement, the army of terra-cotta warriors created to protect Qin Shi Huang, China's first emperor, in his afterlife is more than 2,000 years old and took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete.
A. the same
B. Qin Shi huang, China's first emperor, was protected in his afterlife by an army of terra-cotta warriors that was created more than 2,000 years ago by 700,000 artisans who took more than 36 years to complete it.
C. it took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to create an army of terra-cotta warriors more than 2,000 years ago that would protect Qin Shi Huang, China's first emperor, in his afterlife.
D. more than 2,000 years ago, 700,000 artisans worked more than 36 years to create an army of terra-cotta warriors to protect Qin Shi Huang, China's first emperor, in his afterlife.
E. more than 36 years wre needed to complete the army of terra-cotta warrios that 700,000 artisans created 2,000 years ago to protect Qin Shi huang, China's first emperor, in his afterlife.


Q Can`t there be 2 modifiers back to back modifying the subject?
Here in option D, why both Rivaling the pyramids of Egypt or even the ancient cities of the Maya s an achievement and more than 2,000 years ago, do not modify 700,000 artisans


Hi Ashish,

"Rivaling" can't refer to "artisans" because the meaning is illogical. The artisans themselves don't rival the pyramids or the Mayan cities. It's their work, the terra-cotta warriors, that rivals the pyramids and cities.

Hope this helps with your doubt.

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Hi Experts,

Can someone please explain me how is it logical to say that "army took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete " ?
A monument or a pyramid can be completed by artisans ... but how can army be completed by artisans ?
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Can someone please explain me how is it logical to say that "army took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete " ?
A monument or a pyramid can be completed by artisans ... but how can army be completed by artisans ?


Hi there,

Thank you for posting your query here.

This sentence isn't talking about human soldiers; it's talking about an 'army' of terracotta soldiers. It is perfectly logical to say that these terracotta statues were created by artisans.

I hope this helps with your doubt!

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Could anyone explain why is "the army of terra-cotta warriors created to protect" correct?
I think it should be "the army of terra-cotta warriors was created to protect"
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Could anyone explain why is "the army of terra-cotta warriors created to protect" correct?
I think it should be "the army of terra-cotta warriors was created to protect"


Hi there,

In order to understand why use of "was" after ""the army of terra-cotta warriors", let's get rid of all the modifiers used in this sentence and get to the core structure:

Rivaling the pyramids of Egypt or even the ancient cities of the Maya as an achievement, the army of terra-cotta warriors created to protect Qin Shi Huang, China’s first emperor, in his afterlife is more than 2,000 years old and took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete.

(blue = Subject, green = Verb)

So as we can see, the Subject of this sentence is "the army of terra-cotta warriors". This Subject has two verbs - "is" and "took". They are correctly connected to each other with "and". Now if we add "was" after the Subject, this is what we will get:

Now "created" in this sentence acts a s Verb-ed modifier that correctly modifies the Subject as the army of terra-cotta warriors was created to protect Qin Shi Huang. The insertion of "was" will not probably make the sentence grammatically incorrect, but it will certainly make it awkward because of the use of the tenses -> past, present, and past. This jump in tenses will certainly make the sentence awkward.

With the Verb-ed modifier "created, the choice remains concise and avoids the awkward jump between past and present tense verbs.

Hope this helps. :-)
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This question should take way less than a minute. Reason being there is only 1 option among all which has "the army of terra-cotta warriors" in the beginning. What is "rivaling the pyramids of Egypt or even the ancient cities of Maya"? It is the figures of "the army of terra-cotta warriors". A is the only choice!

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Rivaling the pyramids of Egypt or even the ancient cities of the Maya as an achievement, the army of terra-cotta warriors created to protect Qin Shi Huang, China's first emperor, in his afterlife is more than 2,000 years old and took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete.

(A) the army of terra-cotta warriors created to protect Qin Shi Huang, China's first emperor, in his afterlife is more than 2,000 years old and took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete.

(B) Qin Shi huang, China's first emperor, was protected in his afterlife by an army of terracotta warriors that was created more than 2,000 years ago by 700,000 artisans who took more than 36 years to complete it

(C) it took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to create an army of terra-cotta warriors more than 2,000 years ago that would protect Qin Shi Huang, China's first emperor, in his afterlife

(D) more than 2,000 years ago, 700,000 artisans worked more than 36 years to create an army of terra-cotta warriors to protect Qin Shi Huang, China's first emperor, in his afterlife

(E) more than 36 years were needed to complete the army of terra-cotta warriors that 700,000 artisans created 2,000 years ago to protect Qin Shi Huang, China's first emperor, in his afterlife


First Glance

The very long underline signals likely Structure, Meaning, Modifier, or Parallelism issues.

Issues

(1) Modifier: rivaling the pyramids

The original sentence begins with a modifier: Rivaling the pyramids or the cities as an achievement. The information is talking about something that has not yet been mentioned. What is the rivalling the pyramids?

The pyramids of Egypt are works of art. What else in the sentence is a work of art or can be described as an achievement? An army of terra-cotta warriors makes sense and should be placed right after the comma, so the original sentence is fine. The other answers offer various other various other illogical options as the noun following the comma:

(B) Qin Shi Huang (a person is not a work of art)
(C) it (referring to how long the warriors took to make)
(D) artisans (people are not works of art)
(E) 36 years (a length of time is not a work of art)

Eliminate answers (B), (C), (D), and (E) because each uses an illogical noun following the comma.

(2) Meaning

The sentence contains a lot of modifiers; the placement of some modifiers in answers (B) and (C) confuse the meaning.

In answer (B), the pronoun it refers to the army, so that the sentence reads: an army that was created by artisans who took 36 years to complete the army. This is an equivalent example: the cake that was created by the chef who spent 3 hours to make the cake. As though the second cake is a different cake!

The sequence of modifiers in answer (C) is confusing:

(C) to create an army of warriors more than 2,000 years ago that would protect Huang

What happened more than 2,000 years ago? The army was created. The warriors didn’t just appear, nor were they protected 2,000 years ago. The modifier should more clearly point to the action that occurred more than 2,000 years ago. Further, the placement interrupts another noun and modifier pair: the warriors (more than 2,000 years ago) that would protect Qin Shi Huang. The two halves not in parentheses should be right next to each other; the warriors, not some years ago, are the ones who would protect Huang.

Eliminate answers (B) and (C) for confusing modifier placement.

The Correct Answer

Correct answer (A) is the only one that completes the opening modifier structure correctly: rivaling the pyramids as an achievement, the army of warriors. Further, the placement of the many modifiers is logical.
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What confused me in option A is that there is no object after the phrase "more than 36 years to complete". I thought that there should be some object such as "it" or "the army" so that the sentence looks complete. Could you elaborate more on this?
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What confused me in option A is that there is no object after the phrase "more than 36 years to complete". I thought that there should be some object such as "it" or "the army" so that the sentence looks complete. Could you elaborate more on this?
This is a relatively common structure: the infinitive (to complete) does not take an object, because the reader understands that the subject of the sentence is what "completes" the infinitive.

1. This deadline is impossible to meet. ← It is understood here that this deadline is what is impossible to meet.
2. It is impossible to meet this deadline. ← The same thing (different structure, allows us to put the object immediately after the infinitive).

3. This deadline is impossible to meet it. ← However, if we go with (1), we cannot add an object to the infinitive.

This question uses a slightly more complicated structure, but even that eventually is treated the same way:

4. ... the army took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete. ← It is understood here that the army is what was completed.
5. It took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete the army. ← The same thing (different structure, allows us to put the object immediately after the infinitive).

6a. ... the army took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete it. ← This is incorrect.
6b. ... the army took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete the army. ← This is incorrect.
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Dear GMATNinja,
The verb "took" in A refers to the 700,000 artisans, right?
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Dear GMATNinja,
The verb "took" in A refers to the 700,000 artisans, right?
Thank you Sir

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(A) Rivaling the pyramids of Egypt or even the ancient cities of the Maya as an achievement, the army of terra-cotta warriors created to protect Qin Shi Huang, China's first emperor, in his afterlife is more than 2,000 years old and took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete.

Choice (A) boils down to, "... the army (1) is more than 2,000 years old and (2) took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete." - The army (verb 1) and (verb 2).

So "army" is the subject for both verbs in the parallel list ("is" and "took"). The usage of "took" her is akin to saying, "The mural took 2 years to finish." Or "The mural took 100 artists 2 years to finish." In these example, the artists are the ones who "finished" the mural.

Similarly, the artisans are the ones who worked "to complete" the army. What did it take to complete the army? 700,000 artisans (working for) more than 36 years. The subject of "took" is "army", but the artisans (working for 36+ years) represent what it took to complete the army.

Does that answer your question?
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Can a modifier (such as a present participle acting as an adjective) modify a pronoun?

Stem: Rivaling the pyramids of Egypt or even the cities of Maya as an achievement,
Answer C: it took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to create an army of terra-cotta warriors more than 2,000 years ago that would protect Qin Shi Huang, China's first emperor, in his afterlife.

What I don't understand is why can't "Rivaling" modify a pronoun "it"?
What I also don't understand is why it is not the case that the only logical antecedent for "it" is "army"?

"it" (singular) can't be artisans (plural), years (plural), warriors (plural), years (plural), Qin Shu Huang (doesn't make logical sense).
"it" seems to HAVE to refer to army.

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Can a modifier (such as a present participle acting as an adjective) modify a pronoun?

Stem: Rivaling the pyramids of Egypt or even the cities of Maya as an achievement,
Answer C: it took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to create an army of terra-cotta warriors more than 2,000 years ago that would protect Qin Shi Huang, China's first emperor, in his afterlife.

What I don't understand is why can't "Rivaling" modify a pronoun "it"?
What I also don't understand is why it is not the case that the only logical antecedent for "it" is "army"?

"it" (singular) can't be artisans (plural), years (plural), warriors (plural), years (plural), Qin Shu Huang (doesn't make logical sense).
"it" seems to HAVE to refer to army.

Hi miiicho, let's look at option C (that uses it):

Rivaling the pyramids of Egypt or even the ancient cities of the Maya as an achievement, it took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to create an army of terra-cotta warriors more than 2,000 years ago that would protect Qin Shi Huang, China's first emperor, in his afterlife.

Notice the construct: it took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years.

What took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years?

Answer: to create an army of terra-cotta warriors took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years.

So, in C, it is not intended to refer to army, but to the infinitive phrase to create an army of terra-cotta warriors.

This is the major problem with C: the present participial phrase Rivaling the pyramids of Egypt or even the ancient cities of the Maya as an achievement is modifying to create an army of terra-cotta. This is clearly non-sensical.

Note that this is one of those rare cases where the pronoun (it) is used before the antecedent (to create an army of terra-cotta).

p.s. Our book EducationAisle Sentence Correction Nirvana discusses cases where Pronoun is used "before" the antecedent, its application and examples in significant detail. If you or someone is interested, PM me your email-id; I can mail the corresponding section..
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