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Salt deposits and moisture threaten to destroy the Mohenjo-Daro excavation in Pakistan, the site of an ancient civilization that flourished at the same time as the civilizations in the Nile delta and the river valleys of the Tigris and Euphrates.

(A) that flourished at the same time as the civilizations
(B) that had flourished at the same time as had the civilizations
(C) that flourished at the same time those had
(D) flourishing at the same time as those did
(E) flourishing at the same time as those were


Please explain your answers. Thank you in advance.
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 [#permalink] New post 21 May 2007, 08:03
I prefer B to A.

We need verb in A
flourished at the same time as did the civilizations of...

According to this B uses verb at both places to compare.

I will go for B
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 [#permalink] New post 21 May 2007, 08:18
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X died at the same time as Y

what is wrong with the sentence ??
why do u need

X died at the same time as did Y

isi'nt "did" assumed at the end ??

X died at the same time as Y did

just a thought !!
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 [#permalink] New post 21 May 2007, 12:04
The answer is B
A compares "fluorished" directly to "civilizations". For the sake of ll comparison, I am inclined to choose B.
any thoughts?
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 [#permalink] New post 22 May 2007, 02:48
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I dont think that A compares flourished to civilizations !!

It compares

"civilizations that flourished" with "civilizations in the Nile delta"
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 [#permalink] New post 22 May 2007, 05:54
A looks good 2 me.......
B has tense problems.......

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B is wrong coz u use 'had' for perfect tense...... u need to have two actions and 'had' is used for the action occuring earlier in time........
here wew dont have 2 diff. actions at 2 diff. times(all civ. existed at the SAME time) ......... So, cannot use had....... thats wot I think.........pls correct me if I m wrong......

btw wots the OA??
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 [#permalink] New post 26 May 2007, 11:00
(A) that flourished at the same time as the civilizations
(B) that had flourished at the same time as had the civilizations
(C) that flourished at the same time those had – Wrong construction.
(D) flourishing at the same time as those did - Use of “ing” is wrong.
(E) flourishing at the same time as those were - Use of “ing” is wrong.

C,D & E are eliminated

left with A & B

B - can be eliminated as we the sentence already says "....the site of an ancient civilization ...." so why do we need to qualify it again with "had"

Hence IMO A is the answer.
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 [#permalink] New post 26 May 2007, 18:35
Betwwen A & B.
I go with A

Firstly, in B) that had flourished at the same time as had the civilizations the sentence starts with a present tense while B takes the a part of the sentence to past perfect which would have been correct if we were diffrentating between two events which happened in the past . In this case would be suffice with just the use of simple past tense as used in A.
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 [#permalink] New post 27 May 2007, 02:10
We don't need Past Perfect here.
Past Perfect is used only to emphasize the action that took place BEFORE another action in the past.
So I chose A.

Apache, could u pls provide the OA?
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Salt deposits and moisture threaten to destroy the [#permalink] New post 08 Aug 2007, 03:19
Salt deposits and moisture threaten to destroy the Mohenjo-Daro excavation in Pakistan, the site of an ancient civilization that flourished at the same time as the civilizations in the Nile delta and the river valleys of the Tigris and Euphrates.

(A) that flourished at the same time as the civilizations
(B) that had flourished at the same time as had the civilizations
(C) that flourished at the same time those had
(D) flourishing at the same time as those did
(E) flourishing at the same time as those were
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 [#permalink] New post 08 Aug 2007, 06:38
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robinantony wrote:
A.

as seem to be the correct usage. It needs to start with that.


But "A" is missing a verb... as in--> civilization that flourished at the same time as the civilizations (verb)...? :shock:


It would have been better if there was "did" at the end but we can assume "did" there as there is no other seemingly correct option.

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 [#permalink] New post 09 Aug 2007, 05:21
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yes, A is the answer.

I think we can do without 'did' at the end here. The sentence is comparing time when different civilizations flourished. 'time' is a noun, so no need for a verb at the end.


"like" is used to compare nouns.
"as" introduces a clause.

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 [#permalink] New post 09 Aug 2007, 05:23
Can we use "when" instead of "as"?

Salt deposits and moisture threaten to destroy the Mohenjo-Daro excavation in Pakistan, the site of an ancient civilization that flourished at the same time when the civilizations in the Nile delta and the river valleys of the Tigris and Euphrates did.

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 [#permalink] New post 09 Aug 2007, 05:57
I would go for B.

B is clear even though wordy.

A would have been better if it had read,
"that flourished in the same time as did the civilizations"
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 [#permalink] New post 09 Aug 2007, 06:38
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Can we use "when" instead of "as"?

Salt deposits and moisture threaten to destroy the Mohenjo-Daro excavation in Pakistan, the site of an ancient civilization that flourished at the same time when the civilizations in the Nile delta and the river valleys of the Tigris and Euphrates did.

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My take is that we can certainly use WHEN except that as used above - AT THE SAME TIME and WHEN become redundant because they mean the same thing.

In other words, we should say - that flourished WHEN the civilizations in the Nile and delta etc.... did.

He met with an accident when he was in America.

He met with an accident (at the same time) when he was in america (redundant usage).
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 [#permalink] New post 09 Aug 2007, 06:50
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b14kumar wrote:
Can we use "when" instead of "as"?

Salt deposits and moisture threaten to destroy the Mohenjo-Daro excavation in Pakistan, the site of an ancient civilization that flourished at the same time when the civilizations in the Nile delta and the river valleys of the Tigris and Euphrates did.

- Brajesh


My take is that we can certainly use WHEN except that as used above - AT THE SAME TIME and WHEN become redundant because they mean the same thing.

In other words, we should say - that flourished WHEN the civilizations in the Nile and delta etc.... did.

He met with an accident when he was in America.

He met with an accident (at the same time) when he was in america (redundant usage).


Thanks dwivedys.
In your second example, can we replace "when" by "as" and keeping "at the same time" intact?

Or can you please provide some other example for the following construction:

........when..................

replaced by

.......at the same time......as...........
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 [#permalink] New post 17 Aug 2007, 07:14
pau.sabria wrote:
It's also a OG 11 SC question.


This might be sacriledge. But I do not agree with the OA either.

A is comparing the time when the Mohenjo-Daro civilization flourished with the civilizations in the Nile delta and the river valleys of the Tigris and Euphrates.
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 [#permalink] New post 17 Aug 2007, 11:34
dwivedys wrote:
I really saw no problem in A - but now that you guys mention it, it does seem as if it's missing the DID.


In most questions,'did' and 'do' are omitted in the second part of the question...another example is the 'meat of livestock' question posted recently...that also misses the 'do' in the right choice.

But I think,this is done to ensure brevity although the comparison does get altered...the only way out is to search other errors in such questions.
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 [#permalink] New post 18 Aug 2007, 09:42
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dwivedys wrote:
I really saw no problem in A - but now that you guys mention it, it does seem as if it's missing the DID.


In most questions,'did' and 'do' are omitted in the second part of the question...another example is the 'meat of livestock' question posted recently...that also misses the 'do' in the right choice.

But I think,this is done to ensure brevity although the comparison does get altered...the only way out is to search other errors in such questions.


The same thought about the missing DID occured to me when I was practicising some other SC questions today. This question has been bothering me for days now.

God!! How I hate English. Would it have killed the testers to put a DID there?

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Salt deposits and moisture threaten to destroy the Mohenjo-Daro excavation in Pakistan, the site of an ancient civilization that flourished at the same time as the civilizations in the Nile delta and the river valleys of the Tigris and Euphrates.

A. that flourished at the same time as the civilizations

B. that had flourished at the same time as had the civilizations

C. that flourished at the same time those had

D. flourishing at the same time as those did

E. flourishing at the same time as those were
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Re: SC - Mohen-jadaro [#permalink] New post 05 May 2008, 21:56
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Salt deposits and moisture threaten to destroy the Mohenjo-Daro excavation in Pakistan, the site of an ancient civilization that flourished at the same time as the civilizations in the Nile delta and the river valleys of the Tigris and Euphrates.

A. that flourished at the same time as the civilizations

B. that had flourished at the same time as had the civilizations

C. that flourished at the same time those had

D. flourishing at the same time as those did

E. flourishing at the same time as those were



Manhattan SC says, keep the sentence simple. So B out.
If you want to have a discusion about C, D, E, let me know! :-D
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