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Salt deposits and moisture threaten to destroy the Mohenjo-Daro excavation in Pakistan, the site of an ancient civilization that flourished at the same time as the civilizations in the Nile delta and the river valleys of the Tigris and Euphrates.

(A) that flourished at the same time as the civilizations
(B) that had flourished at the same time as had the civilizations
(C) that flourished at the same time those had
(D) flourishing at the same time as those did
(E) flourishing at the same time as those were


Please explain your answers. Thank you in advance.
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 [#permalink] New post 09 Aug 2007, 05:23
Can we use "when" instead of "as"?

Salt deposits and moisture threaten to destroy the Mohenjo-Daro excavation in Pakistan, the site of an ancient civilization that flourished at the same time when the civilizations in the Nile delta and the river valleys of the Tigris and Euphrates did.

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 [#permalink] New post 09 Aug 2007, 05:57
I would go for B.

B is clear even though wordy.

A would have been better if it had read,
"that flourished in the same time as did the civilizations"
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 [#permalink] New post 09 Aug 2007, 06:38
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Can we use "when" instead of "as"?

Salt deposits and moisture threaten to destroy the Mohenjo-Daro excavation in Pakistan, the site of an ancient civilization that flourished at the same time when the civilizations in the Nile delta and the river valleys of the Tigris and Euphrates did.

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My take is that we can certainly use WHEN except that as used above - AT THE SAME TIME and WHEN become redundant because they mean the same thing.

In other words, we should say - that flourished WHEN the civilizations in the Nile and delta etc.... did.

He met with an accident when he was in America.

He met with an accident (at the same time) when he was in america (redundant usage).
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 [#permalink] New post 09 Aug 2007, 06:50
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Can we use "when" instead of "as"?

Salt deposits and moisture threaten to destroy the Mohenjo-Daro excavation in Pakistan, the site of an ancient civilization that flourished at the same time when the civilizations in the Nile delta and the river valleys of the Tigris and Euphrates did.

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My take is that we can certainly use WHEN except that as used above - AT THE SAME TIME and WHEN become redundant because they mean the same thing.

In other words, we should say - that flourished WHEN the civilizations in the Nile and delta etc.... did.

He met with an accident when he was in America.

He met with an accident (at the same time) when he was in america (redundant usage).


Thanks dwivedys.
In your second example, can we replace "when" by "as" and keeping "at the same time" intact?

Or can you please provide some other example for the following construction:

........when..................

replaced by

.......at the same time......as...........
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 [#permalink] New post 17 Aug 2007, 07:14
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It's also a OG 11 SC question.


This might be sacriledge. But I do not agree with the OA either.

A is comparing the time when the Mohenjo-Daro civilization flourished with the civilizations in the Nile delta and the river valleys of the Tigris and Euphrates.
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 [#permalink] New post 17 Aug 2007, 11:34
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I really saw no problem in A - but now that you guys mention it, it does seem as if it's missing the DID.


In most questions,'did' and 'do' are omitted in the second part of the question...another example is the 'meat of livestock' question posted recently...that also misses the 'do' in the right choice.

But I think,this is done to ensure brevity although the comparison does get altered...the only way out is to search other errors in such questions.
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 [#permalink] New post 18 Aug 2007, 09:42
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I really saw no problem in A - but now that you guys mention it, it does seem as if it's missing the DID.


In most questions,'did' and 'do' are omitted in the second part of the question...another example is the 'meat of livestock' question posted recently...that also misses the 'do' in the right choice.

But I think,this is done to ensure brevity although the comparison does get altered...the only way out is to search other errors in such questions.


The same thought about the missing DID occured to me when I was practicising some other SC questions today. This question has been bothering me for days now.

God!! How I hate English. Would it have killed the testers to put a DID there?

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Salt deposits and moisture threaten to destroy the [#permalink] New post 05 May 2008, 21:10
Salt deposits and moisture threaten to destroy the Mohenjo-Daro excavation in Pakistan, the site of an ancient civilization that flourished at the same time as the civilizations in the Nile delta and the river valleys of the Tigris and Euphrates.

A. that flourished at the same time as the civilizations

B. that had flourished at the same time as had the civilizations

C. that flourished at the same time those had

D. flourishing at the same time as those did

E. flourishing at the same time as those were
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Re: SC - Mohen-jadaro [#permalink] New post 05 May 2008, 21:56
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Salt deposits and moisture threaten to destroy the Mohenjo-Daro excavation in Pakistan, the site of an ancient civilization that flourished at the same time as the civilizations in the Nile delta and the river valleys of the Tigris and Euphrates.

A. that flourished at the same time as the civilizations

B. that had flourished at the same time as had the civilizations

C. that flourished at the same time those had

D. flourishing at the same time as those did

E. flourishing at the same time as those were



Manhattan SC says, keep the sentence simple. So B out.
If you want to have a discusion about C, D, E, let me know! :-D
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Re: SC - Mohen-jadaro [#permalink] New post 05 May 2008, 21:58
What about comparison of time with civilization in A ?
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Re: SC - Mohen-jadaro [#permalink] New post 05 May 2008, 22:09
None of C, D, E can completely join with IN xxxx
B is so awkward
I choose A although at the first time I think there needs a verb after Civilizations.
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Re: SC - Mohen-jadaro [#permalink] New post 05 May 2008, 23:14
My answer is B.
A - Wrong. Comparison between time with civilization.
B - It's correct. Looks awkward, but there is no other choice.
C - that flourished at the same time those had
D - flourishing at the same time as those did
E - flourishing at the same time as those were
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Re: SC - Mohen-jadaro [#permalink] New post 06 May 2008, 04:37
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Salt deposits and moisture threaten to destroy the Mohenjo-Daro excavation in Pakistan, the site of an ancient civilization that flourished at the same time as the civilizations in the Nile delta and the river valleys of the Tigris and Euphrates.

A. that flourished at the same time as the civilizations

B. that had flourished at the same time as had the civilizations

C. that flourished at the same time those had

D. flourishing at the same time as those did

E. flourishing at the same time as those were


B is the best answer in the lot. D, E have tense errors and C sounds weirdly (lacking a comparator) and A compares apples with oranges.
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Re: SC - Mohen-jadaro [#permalink] New post 06 May 2008, 07:11
Classic question. A case of ellipsis.

Duane doesn't like her but I do (like her).
I can't swim very well but Nadira can (swim very well).
Janet is British but Juan isn't (British).
They didn't go to the cinema but we did (do go to the Cinema).
Sandra was worried about the test but Giorgio wasn't (worried about the test).
Rafal went to school today but Liang didn't (go to school today).
..the site of an ancient civilization that flourished at the same time as (did) the civilizations in the Nile delta and (did) the river valleys of the Tigris and Euphrates.
Words in italics can be eliminated without changing the meaning.

B can be ruled out as there is no need of 'had'. (there is no time difference here)
A wins.
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Salt deposits and moisture threaten to destroy the Mohenjo-Daro excavation in Pakistan, the site of an ancient civilization that flourished at the same time as the civilizations in the Nile delta and the river valleys of the Tigris and Euphrates.

(A) that flourished at the same time as the civilizations
(B) that had flourished at the same time as had the civilizations
(C) that flourished at the same time that there were with
(D) flourishing at the same time as as those did
(E) so many changes at once that confronted them in
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Re: SC- Mohenjodaro [#permalink] New post 15 Jul 2008, 12:14
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Salt deposits and moisture threatens to destroy the Mohenjo-daro excavation in pakistan,the site of an ancient civilizationthat flourished at the same time as the civilizations in the Nile delta and the river valleysof the tigris and Euphrates

1. that flourished at the same time as the civilizations2. that had flourished at the same time as had the civilizations
3. that flourished at the same time that there were with
4. flourishing at the same time as as those did
5. so many changes at once that confronted them in


IMO B is the correct answer on this one
this question tests comparion structure

the problem areas have been marked in red in the remaining options

what is the OA for this

please let me know if my approach to the question is not correct
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Re: SC- Mohenjodaro [#permalink] New post 15 Jul 2008, 12:20
1 thing to remember in GMAT is to look for the most conise answers.Option Bhas to many perfec tenses to be correct on the GMAT LAND(as it is called)so generally sentences having to many perfect tenses are wrong......... so B is wrong

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Salt deposits and moisture threatens to destroy the Mohenjo-daro excavation in pakistan,the site of an ancient civilizationthat flourished at the same time as the civilizations in the Nile delta and the river valleysof the tigris and Euphrates

1. that flourished at the same time as the civilizations
2. that had flourished at the same time as had the civilizations
3. that flourished at the same time that there were with
4. flourishing at the same time as as those did
5. so many changes at once that confronted them in


IMO B is the correct answer on this one
this question tests comparion structure

the problem areas have been marked in red in the remaining options

what is the OA for this

please let me know if my approach to the question is not correct

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Re: SC- Mohenjodaro [#permalink] New post 15 Jul 2008, 12:28
I also went for this one but D uses flourishing which is wrong..........The OA given is A
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Re: SC- Mohenjodaro&SC notes [#permalink] New post 17 Jul 2008, 00:16
From Elimination, A seems to be the answer.
1. that flourished at the same time as the civilizations
2. that had flourished at the same time as had the civilizations : Can be ruled out for the improper usage of the perfect tense.
3. that flourished at the same time that there were with : Highly unidiomatic.
4. flourishing at the same time as as those did : seems as if the process has continued.
5. so many changes at once that confronted them in[/quote]
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SC: Comparison (avg difficulty) [#permalink] New post 06 Dec 2008, 18:27
Is the sentence correct as written? Please explain your answer.

Salt deposits and moisture threaten to destroy the Mohenjo-Koro excavation in Pakistan, the site of an ancient civilization that flourished at the same time as the civilizations in the Nile delta and the river valleys of the Tigris and Euphrates.
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