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San Franciscans of the 1890's mocked the claim that declared [#permalink] New post 09 Feb 2005, 22:23
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San Franciscans of the 1890's mocked the claim that declared Los Angeles a world city, yet within twenty years a powerful municipal will had made this boast a reality.
(A) yet within twenty years a powerful municipal will had made this boast a reality
(B) yet within twenty years a powerful municipal will made this boast a reality
(C) yet a powerful municipal within twenty years will make this boast a reality
(D) yet this boast had become a reality within twenty years because of a powerful will municipally
(E) yet within twenty years a municipal will had made this boast a powerful reality
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Re: SC - SF/LA [#permalink] New post 09 Feb 2005, 22:33
(A) yet within twenty years a powerful municipal will had made this boast a reality
Sounds right

(B) yet within twenty years a powerful municipal will made this boast a reality
I think we should use past perfect because of "within 20 years"

(C) yet a powerful municipal within twenty years will make this boast a reality
present tense is definitely wrong

(D) yet this boast had become a reality within twenty years because of a powerful will municipally
municipally seems wrong

(E) yet within twenty years a municipal will had made this boast a powerful reality
Is it the will that is powerful or is it the reality that is powerful?

I guess A then.

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 [#permalink] New post 09 Feb 2005, 22:34
The answer here, I think, is B) yet within twenty years a powerful municipal will made this boast a reality.

My reasoning is that the first clause uses an active verb, "mocked," which necessitates the use of another active verb in the second tense to maintain a parallel structure.
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Re: SC - SF/LA [#permalink] New post 09 Feb 2005, 22:35
C. San Franciscans of the 1890's mocked the claim that declared Los Angeles a world city, yet a powerful municipal within twenty years will make this boast a reality
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 [#permalink] New post 09 Feb 2005, 23:19
San Franciscans of the 1890's mocked the claim that declared Los Angeles a world city, yet within twenty years a powerful municipal will had made this boast a reality.

(A) yet within twenty years a powerful municipal will had made this boast a reality - The sentence structure isn't parallel.

(B) yet within twenty years a powerful municipal will made this boast a reality - Parallel structure and correct verb tense.

(C) yet a powerful municipal within twenty years will make this boast a reality - What is a municipal besides an adjective? It's needs to modify a noun.

(D) yet this boast had become a reality within twenty years because of a powerful will municipally - Municipally is an adverb, but it's not modifying anything here; it's just dangling.

(E) yet within twenty years a municipal will had made this boast a powerful reality - It's the powerful will that made LA a real city. There is nothing in the sentence to indicate that the reality of it is powerful.

I still vote for B.
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 [#permalink] New post 10 Feb 2005, 00:52
I would defenitely go with A.
A has the correct verb tense.
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Re: SC - SF/LA [#permalink] New post 10 Feb 2005, 08:49
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San Franciscans of the 1890's mocked the claim that declared Los Angeles a world city, yet within twenty years a powerful municipal will had made this boast a reality.
(A) yet within twenty years a powerful municipal will had made this boast a reality
(B) yet within twenty years a powerful municipal will made this boast a reality
(C) yet a powerful municipal within twenty years will make this boast a reality
(D) yet this boast had become a reality within twenty years because of a powerful will municipally
(E) yet within twenty years a municipal will had made this boast a powerful reality


It should be A

this one is tricky, I was so confused with "will had made" because the wrong tense for future perfect tense. After read thru couple times, I realize "will" means "goal, will to act", it's a noun. The sentence talks about an event happened and completed during past, so past perfect tense should be the right answer.
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 [#permalink] New post 10 Feb 2005, 10:37
"B" for me. In "A" it seems that use of past perfect is making it sound like the municipal made it a reality even before LA was mocked. "B" doesn't have that issue.
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 [#permalink] New post 10 Feb 2005, 16:33
OA is (A)

Now, HongHU, please explain your words:
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I think we should use past perfect because of "within 20 years"
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 [#permalink] New post 10 Feb 2005, 17:38
Very good explanation DMLD....I chose A, but that was through POE
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 [#permalink] New post 10 Feb 2005, 20:08
It was a process that was completed during a period of time. Similar to "We have made great progress during the past 10 years." Only the one of our question happened in the past so we need past perfect tense.

If it was "20 years later" instead of "within 20 years", then I would choose past tense instead of past perfect. Past perfect emphasis the process.
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 [#permalink] New post 10 Feb 2005, 22:28
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Past perfect emphasis the process.


Really?? Prove it :-D
I thought past perfect means "more past"??!!
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 [#permalink] New post 10 Feb 2005, 22:51
It could mean something happened before sometime in the past. It could also mean if something was completed in the past (similar to the use of present perfect).
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 [#permalink] New post 10 Feb 2005, 23:01
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It could mean something happened before sometime in the past.


Yes.

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It could also mean if something was completed in the past (similar to the use of present perfect).


This? Then shouldn't simple past is "simple" to use?

My question is about this one
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Past perfect emphasis the process.


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http://webster.commnet.edu/grammar/tens ... erfect.htm

The PAST PERFECT TENSE indicates that an action was completed (finished or "perfected") at some point in the past before something else happened. This tense is formed with the past tense form of "to have" (HAD) plus the past participle of the verb (which can be either regular or irregular in form):
I had walked two miles by lunchtime.
I had run three other marathons before entering the Boston Marathon .
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 [#permalink] New post 10 Feb 2005, 23:06
LA was made a world city before 1910. There you got your lunchtime.

Basically my understanding is if you see phrases like "during a period of ...", "within a certain period" etc, you'd have to use perfect instead of simple tense.
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 [#permalink] New post 10 Feb 2005, 23:10
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LA was made a world city before 1910


Alright! :-D
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 [#permalink] New post 10 Feb 2005, 23:26
:lol: However you can't say "LA was made a world city during the 20 years after 1890". You have to say "LA had been made a world city during the 20 years after 1890." since now it is a process during a period of time.

Similar to present perfect tense:

I have made many friends within the two month since I started coming to this forum.

If it happened in the past:

I had made many friends during the two months I was there.
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