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 [#permalink] New post 20 Aug 2005, 06:51
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I then got an easy CR and a couple of super hard SCs followed by a very hard Bold face CRs where it was not clear whether a bolded part was a premise or evidence or fact. Time was running fast. But I must have been doing well because I then got back to back RCs - 70 line and 50 line, one on science and one on business. Then more SCs and regular CRs. Another history passage (40 line) followed but this one was easier. Then it was more CRs and the test ended with 3 medium level SCs. CRs were no harder than the hard OG ones. SCs were definitely more involved but no confusing answer choices. Many of the long ones were ones where you have to eliminate answer choices based on pronoun reference, parallelism etc to end up with the correct answer - essentially not obvious ones. I finished verbal with about 8 minutes to spare.



AJB,
Congratulations on your score! I have some follow up questions about your SC, CR, and RC experience.

SC:
When you intially looked at the question did you feel like you "instantly" saw the error in the original question during the test?Or did you have to go through the "internal checklist" - is it testing subject/verb or parallelism ora verb tense, etc.
Did you POE every AC based on some grammer/idiom rule? During the first 15 questions did you ever feel like you had to make an "educated" guess. Or was every AC kinda eliminated because of the grammer rule provided by the MGMAT prep guide. I'm using the same guide and find myself not being able to eliminate AC in OG.

CR:
I read your post about using official LSAT material. Did you finish each CR section within the prescribed time - 26 questions in 35 minutes? How were you doing? What was your strike rate like in first 15 questions. The last 10?
I struggle to go with a 2 min per question pace. Did you see any "syllogism" type of questions in the GMAT. I hate the "logic" type of questions. A --> B and A ---> C so in order for conclusion to be true, etc, etc.

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How was your timing for RCs in LSAT? I average at about 2 min per question. Feel okay with the strike rate. How did you handle the "EXCEPT" type of questions. I struggle with these and would like to pick your brain on how you handled these questions? Would you mind using the following as an example to demonstrate your "methodlogy" for these questions:
http://www.gmatclub.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=18739

I appreciate your help and congratulations on the fabulous score!!!
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 [#permalink] New post 20 Aug 2005, 07:37
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Congratulations on your score! I have some follow up questions about your SC, CR, and RC experience.

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When you intially looked at the question did you feel like you "instantly" saw the error in the original question during the test?Or did you have to go through the "internal checklist" - is it testing subject/verb or parallelism ora verb tense, etc.

I stopped doing the instant identification thing because it was a bad habit for me. I forced myself, by practice, to identify the type of error, if any, in every question and then look at the answer choices. In the answers, I was able to eliminate choices based on the MGMAT rules for the most part. Even idiom-based sentences had 2-3 clearly wrong answer choices based on one of the MGMAT rules or clarity/concision principles. I had the same strategy for evey SC question, whether the first or the 40th.

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I read your post about using official LSAT material. Did you finish each CR section within the prescribed time - 26 questions in 35 minutes? How were you doing? What was your strike rate like in first 15 questions. The last 10?

I was able to finish LSAT sections after doing some 6-7 sets and failing to complete each of them. My hit rate was always between 21 to 25 (85 - 100%). Towards the end, I made 1 mistake at the most.

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I struggle to go with a 2 min per question pace. Did you see any "syllogism" type of questions in the GMAT. I hate the "logic" type of questions. A --> B and A ---> C so in order for conclusion to be true, etc, etc.


GMAT does not typically have the LSAT-type Hard Logic/Deductive questions. The nearest GMAT equivalents are the ones where you are given statistics and then asked to infer something. The correct answer choice here is the one which can be directly derived numerically from the question stem. I'm talking about the ones where, for instance, it says - "Between 1979 and 1984, Croydon County's total income rose 4% while its manufacturing sector grew by 2.7%. In neighboring Cook county, ..."These ones are easy because you can quickly eliminate the answer choices which attribute causality or make generalizations such as "Manufacturing jobs are an important source of income..." etc.

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How was your timing for RCs in LSAT? I average at about 2 min per question. Feel okay with the strike rate. How did you handle the "EXCEPT" type of questions. I struggle with these and would like to pick your brain on how you handled these questions? Would you mind using the following as an example to demonstrate your "methodlogy" for these questions:
http://www.gmatclub.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=18739
For LSAT RCs, I averaged something like 10-13 minutes for a 60 line passage with 6 questions. So 2 min per sounds about right. As far as the "except" questions, it is just POE. I usually start with Choice E because most of these EXCEPT Qs tend to have the right answer near the end or so I felt. I'll try to take a look at that thread in a bit.
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 [#permalink] New post 20 Aug 2005, 16:47
Congrats ABJ on your great score and good luck as you apply. I hope you continue to participate in this forum though you've accomplished you goal. :lol:
I ssee you are now a moderator in the mathematics forum, looking forward to your skills in the quant section
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 [#permalink] New post 20 Aug 2005, 19:46
Okay, here are my test scores in the order I took them.

Name Type Math Verbal Overall

Cambridge Diag 20/25 20/27 640

Petersons Diag 60 50 750

Kaplan Diag 44 42 690

Kaplan CAT 1 40 36 630

PR CAT 1 51 36 700

Kaplan CAT 2 50 37 670

Kaplan CAT 3 48 38 690

Kaplan Online 51 38 770

PowerPrep #1 50 44 770

PowerPrep #2 51 45 770

PR CAT 2 46 45 710

PR CAT 3 51 41 740

GMATPrep CAT 1 50 44 770

GMATPrep CAT 2 51 44 770
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 [#permalink] New post 21 Aug 2005, 10:06
Congratulations AJB!

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Thank you so much for your inputs and I am glad that gmatclub reaches out to great members such as yourself. I will make sure this becomes a sticky post. I wish you all the best in your future endeavors.
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 [#permalink] New post 22 Aug 2005, 04:57
AJB77,

Another qs about your RC strategy.....did the ARCO RC Book you used, add any value to your RC strategy or did you just use the passages in it for practice?
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 [#permalink] New post 22 Aug 2005, 11:57
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I used the Arco book mainly for RC strategy. The passages are quite good too, I must add.
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 [#permalink] New post 30 Aug 2005, 15:44
Just got my score report. 6.0 in AWA :)
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 [#permalink] New post 01 Sep 2005, 20:28
Congratulations AJB77,

You are just so excellent, friend..................
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 [#permalink] New post 09 Oct 2005, 06:47
Congrats!!!!

Thanks a lot and good luck with your next steps

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 [#permalink] New post 06 Mar 2006, 20:00
Congrats !!!

Thanks for sharing your experience with us....its very helpfull....!!!
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 [#permalink] New post 10 Mar 2006, 01:28
Hello AJB77,
congrat's that was really a nice :cool score even everybody will admire.
I am a new comer in this club, i just joined and read your strategies.

I am also going to start my prep. for GMAT,
If u don't mind will u please guide to the process of the prep.:help2

I'll be waiting for u'r reply.

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