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A controversial figure throughout most of his public life, the Black leader Marcus Garvey advocated that some Blacks return to Africa, the land that, to him, symbolized the possibility of freedom.

(A) that some Blacks return to Africa, the land that, to him, symbolized the possibility of freedom
(B) that some Blacks return to the African land symbolizing the possibility of freedom to him
(C) that some Blacks return to Africa which was the land which symbolized the possibility of freedom to him
(D) some Black’s returning to Africa which was the land that to him symbolized the possibility of freedom
(E) some Black’s return to the land symbolizing the possibility of freedom to him, Africa


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What does the sentence want to tell you? That Marcus advocated something. What is 'something'? Some Blacks should return to Africa. To him, Africa symbolised the possibility of freedom

(D) and (E) are incorrect straight away because of Black's. What we want to say is plural Blacks, not possessive Black's.

When we have "to him" at the end, it could mean that Africa symbolized the possibility of freedom to him only. But actually what he wanted to say was that Africa symbolises the possibility of freedom to all Blacks. It didn't offer freedom to only Marcus. As per Marcus it offered freedom to all Blacks.

Hence (A) is much better. Also, (C) is quite convoluted with multiple uses of 'which'.
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IMO A.

With "advocate", "that" is required, as it represents a subjunctive construction. D and E are out for not starting with "that"

C is out, because of awkward use of "which" twice in "Africa which was the land which symbolized". I would have prefer a present participle form -ing instead of symbolized.

B is out, as the modifier is ambiguously defined. Not sure if "symbolizing the possibility..." is modifying the noun "the African land" or the whole phrase "some Blacks return to the African land"


Agree with you, B seems now incorrect.
I was confused b/w A and B, and liked symbolizing better than symbolized. So, chose B.
while choosing B, 'to him' also seems incorrect in B, still went for it. :(

Can someone explain in B, to what 'symbolizing' is referring to?
I feel that it is correctly referring to the 'The African Land' but the placement of 'to him' is incorrect.
Any takers?
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(a) land that, to him, symbolized the possibility ' modifies Africa, and a prepositional phrase 'to him' is separated by commas to show verb 'symbolized' is modifying land.
(b) 'African land symbolizing' distorts the meaning of the sentence.
(c) 'which was the land which symbolized' is wordy and awkward.
(d) 'advocated that' should be followed by subject and verb. no verb is presented. 'some Black’s returning to Africa' is awkward.
(e) wrong for same reason as d.
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that does not rule out A as there is nothing wrong with return.
present tense--- he adovates the return
past tense--- he advocated the return.
the verb to be conjugated is advocate , not return.
IMO A
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The key here is the phrase, ‘to him’; It is used to mean ‘according to him’ and is therefore set off within commas. Without the use of commas, the phrase modifies freedom and thus erroneously means freedom to the Black leader. That is why we have to reject B, C and E, notwithstanding other aberrations inherent in them.


In A, it may be noted that the verb ‘return’ is used in the imperative form of present subjunctive mood. ‘Advocated’ is one of the so called bossy words here, coming as they are from a leader of the status of Marcus Garvey. Hence let there be no be no doubt about the use of the word ‘return’ in choice A. In D, the use of the gerund ‘returning’ is too awkward to consider. A wins after all.
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A controversial figure throughout most of his public life, the Black leader Marcus Garvey advocated that some Blacks return to Africa, the land that, to him, symbolized the possibility of freedom.

(A) that some Blacks return to Africa, the land that, to him, symbolized the possibility of freedom
looks good --> leave it
(B) that some Blacks return to the African land symbolizing the possibility of freedom to him
changes meaning --> the african land symbolizing doesn't really explain exactly which land, but the original sentence has an intended meaning that Africa is the land
(C) that some Blacks return to Africa which was the land which symbolized the possibility of freedom to him
using which twice is poor word choice
(D) some Black’s returning to Africa which was the land that to him symbolized the possibility of freedom
(E) some Black’s return to the land symbolizing the possibility of freedom to him, Africa
D and E - advocates is a directive verb so it needs to be followed either by "that" + a verb in root form, or by an infinitive verb. neither are present here

Must be A
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I wish to point out one factor of GMAT SC i.e. the importance or word order, an aspect that has been missed out in the posts.

Why are B C and E wrong? Because all of them state – freedom to him as though Garvey was talking about freedom to his personal self. However, the text means freedom for all the Blacks. Clubbing of the phrase ‘to him’ along with freedom is wrong word order.

Of course, this leaves out A and D, between which A is better because of using the present subjunctive verb ‘ that Blacks return’ rather than the incongruous gerund ‘Black’s returning’. The apostrophe plus s denotes that Black is used in singular rather than –“Blacks’” in plural.

Hope this gives one more insight into this topic now.
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gjayachandra wrote:
5. A controversial figure throughout most of his public life, the Black leader Marcus Garvey advocated that some Blacks return to Africa, the land that, to him, symbolized the possibility of freedom.

(A) that some Blacks return to Africa, the land that, to him, symbolized the possibility of freedom
(B) that some Blacks return to the African land symbolizing the possibility of freedom to him
(C) that some Blacks return to Africa which was the land which symbolized the possibility of freedom to him
(D) some Black’s returning to Africa which was the land that to him symbolized the possibility of freedom
(E) some Black’s return to the land symbolizing the possibility of freedom to him, Africa



the bossy verb advocate indicates that subjunctive mood may be tested.

B ) the construction of this sentence is such that it looks as if there is particular part of africa that symbolises possibility of freedom to Marcus Garvey. Not Africa in general.

c) which was the land which. The second which is definitely wrong as it is part of restrictive clause. It should have been that.

D and E are out for using 'black's' , possessive is not needed here.

A, B and C use subjunctive but B & C introduce some errors. A is wordy but still best of the lot. So A is correct.
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In A, is it alright to use comma right after 'that'?

that some Blacks return to Africa, the land that, to him, symbolized the possibility of freedom
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(A) that some Blacks return to Africa, the land that, to him, symbolized the possibility of freedom-PERFECT.
(B) that some Blacks return to the African land symbolizing the possibility of freedom to him-WHO IS SYMBOLIZING?BLACKS? INCORRECT
(C) that some Blacks return to Africa which was the land which symbolized the possibility of freedom to him-TWICE"WHICH"IS INCORRECT.
(D) some Black’s returning to Africa which was the land that to him symbolized the possibility of freedom-BLACK'S RETURNING IS INCORRECT.
(E) some Black’s return to the land symbolizing the possibility of freedom to him, Africa-BLACK'S RETURN IS INCORRECT.

+1 for (E)
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A controversial figure throughout most of his public life, the Black leader Marcus Garvey advocated that some Blacks return to Africa, the land that, to him, symbolized the possibility of freedom.

(A) that some Blacks return to Africa, the land that, to him, symbolized the possibility of freedom
Answer

(B) that some Blacks return to the African land symbolizing the possibility of freedom to him
Meaning distortion

(C) that some Blacks return to Africa which was the land which symbolized the possibility of freedom to him
Meaning distortion

(D) some Black’s returning to Africa which was the land that to him symbolized the possibility of freedom
Meaning distortion

(E) some Black’s return to the land symbolizing the possibility of freedom to him, Africa
a wrong modifier
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I got (A). Here's how I went about tackling this problem:

(A) that some Blacks return to Africa, the land that, to him, symbolized the possibility of freedom - didn't seem like the best answer, but nothing grammatically wrong
(B) that some Blacks return to the African land symbolizing the possibility of freedom to him - "symbolizing the possibility of freedom" is applied to Some Blacks' return to Africa, which is distorts the meaning
(C) that some Blacks return to Africa which was the land which symbolized the possibility of freedom to him - the usage of "which" twice is awkward
(D) some Black’s returning to Africa which was the land that to him symbolized the possibility of freedom - the usage of a gerund (returning) preceding the possessive noun is correct, but it's missing "that," which should follow after "advocated"
(E) some Black’s return to the land symbolizing the possibility of freedom to him, Africa - word order is awkward and the sentence is missing "that" preceding the possessive noun

Feel free to comment if any of my explanation is questionable!
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In A, is it alright to use comma right after 'that'?

that some Blacks return to Africa, the land that, to him, symbolized the possibility of freedom


Hi rakp

As far as I know, there is a rule that requires you Not to put a comma before "that" between essential modifiers and their nouns .

**But there is also an exception rule: if there is a short and non-essential phrase intervenes ==> the comma before "that" is acceptable.
For example: I love eating fruit, such as orange, that has plenty of vitamin C.
Because "such as orange" is short and non-essential phrase ==> you could put it between noun "fruit" and "that".

However, I do not know any rule that requires "no comma" after "that". So A is correct.

Hope it helps.
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Hope this may Help everyone, I studied this from e-gmat, which is an Excellent Resource.

Demand/Request/Recommend word +THAT + Subject+ Subjunctive Verb

1. Demand
2. dictate
3. Insist
4. Mandate
5. Propose
6. Recommend
7. Request
8. Stipulate
9. Suggest


Subjunctive Exceptions (to form is used)

1. Advice
2. Allow
3. Forbid
4. Persuade
5. Want

Subjunctive or to verb both

1. Ask
2. Beg
3. Desire
4. Intend
5. Order
6. Prefer
7. Require
8. Urge
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take this..

A controversial figure throughout most of his public life, the Black leader Marcus Garvey advocated that some Blacks return to Africa, the land that, to him, symbolized the possibility of freedom.

(A)that some Blacks return to Africa, the land that,to him, symbolized the possibility of freedom
(B)that some Blacks return to the African land symbolizing the possibility of freedom to him
(C)that some Blacks return to Africa which was the land which symbolized the possibility of freedom to him
(D)some B1ack's returning to Africa which was the land that to him symbolized the possibility of freedom
(E)some B1ack's return to the land symbolizing the possibility of freedom to him,Africa




(A)that some Blacks return to Africa, the land that,to him, symbolized the possibility of freedom
Correct !!
(B)that some Blacks return to the African land symbolizing the possibility of freedom to him

(C)that some Blacks return to Africa which was the land which symbolized the possibility of freedom to him
Which must be preceded by a comma

(D)some B1ack's returning to Africa which was the land that to him symbolized the possibility of freedom
change in meaning

(E)some B1ack's return to the land symbolizing the possibility of freedom to him,Africa
Awkward construction and possessive


IMO A

Originally posted by CounterSniper on 20 Jul 2016, 00:23.
Last edited by CounterSniper on 20 Jul 2016, 01:17, edited 1 time in total.
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evensflow wrote:
take this..

A controversial figure throughout most of his public life, the Black leader Marcus Garvey advocated that some Blacks return to Africa, the land that, to him, symbolized the possibility of freedom.

(A)that some Blacks return to Africa, the land that,to him, symbolized the possibility of freedom
(B)that some Blacks return to the African land symbolizing the possibility of freedom to him
(C)that some Blacks return to Africa which was the land which symbolized the possibility of freedom to him
(D)some B1ack's returning to Africa which was the land that to him symbolized the possibility of freedom
(E)some B1ack's return to the land symbolizing the possibility of freedom to him,Africa


    I first go to the choices and then look vertically at the differences, comparing one element at a time.
  • Advocated that some blacks vs. advocated some Black’s. When in doubt about the intended meaning, lean on A.
    Definitely Blacks vs. Black’s. Eliminate D and E.
  • A/B/C. I like to work with the end of each choice. Possibility of freedom vs. possibility of freedom to him.
    Again, when in doubt about the intended meaning, lean on A. For that reason, “freedom to him” has to go. Eliminate B/C.

A is the answer
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A controversial figure throughout most of his public life, the Black leader Marcus Garvey advocated that some Blacks return to Africa, the land that, to him, symbolized the possibility of freedom.

(A)that some Blacks return to Africa, the land that,to him, symbolized the possibility of freedom
(B)that some Blacks return to the African land symbolizing the possibility of freedom to him
(C)that some Blacks return to Africa which was the land which symbolized the possibility of freedom to him
(D)some B1ack's returning to Africa which was the land that to him symbolized the possibility of freedom
(E)some B1ack's return to the land symbolizing the possibility of freedom to him,Africa


Looking at the meaning of sentence, it looks as the sentence is intended to say:-

Blacks return to Africa. To the mentioned leader, this return to the land symbolized the possibility of freedom.

D and E are out because of 'Black's'

(B)that some Blacks return to the African land symbolizing the possibility of freedom to him. 'Symbolizing' modifies 'land' incorrectly. Also freedom 'to him' is not desired.

(C)that some Blacks return to Africa which was the land which symbolized the possibility of freedom to him. freedom 'to him' is not desired.
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