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The Achaemenid empire of Persia reached the Indus Valley in the fifth century B.C., bringing the Aramaic script with it, from which was derived both northern and southern India alphabets.
A. the Aramaic script with it, from which was derived both northern and
B. the Aramaic script with it, and from which deriving both the northern and the
C. with it the Aramaic script, from which derive both the northern and the
D. with it the Aramaic script, from which derives both northern and
E. with it the Aramaic script, and deriving from it both the northern and

The doubt is in the phrase 'from which derive' or 'from which derives' as in choices C & D the verb derive is in simple present. Should it not be in the simple past as the action is already completed.

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Hi Experts,
In the following question:

The Achaemenid empire of Persia reached the Indus Valley in the fifth century B.C., bringing the Aramaic script with it, from which was derived both northern and southern India alphabets.
A. the Aramaic script with it, from which was derived both northern and
B. the Aramaic script with it, and from which deriving both the northern and the
C. with it the Aramaic script, from which derive both the northern and the
D. with it the Aramaic script, from which derives both northern and
E. with it the Aramaic script, and deriving from it both the northern and

The doubt is in the phrase 'from which derive' or 'from which derives' as in choices C & D the verb derive is in simple present. Should it not be in the simple past as the action is already completed.


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Clear winner C, this and that makes the sub plural and justifies the usage of derive


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Even I'll go with C..

As mentioned by mailnavin1, the verb "derive" refers to "alphabets", a plural subject. Hence, C is correct !

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You guys are saying C? How does "from which derive both the northern and the" make any sense?

Should it not be E?


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I go with E. The alphabets did not derive by themselves. The Achaemenid empire of Persia derived those alphabets. Also, note the parallelism (bringing and deriving).

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aiming4mba wrote:
I go with E. The alphabets did not derive by themselves. The Achaemenid empire of Persia derived those alphabets. Also, note the parallelism (bringing and deriving).


This really isn't a parallelism question because the Achaemenid empire is bringing. The achaemenid empire is not the one deriving, but rather the alphabets. The Achaemenid empire is not bringing and deriving at the same time.


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C) CORRECT.
"derive," a plural verb, correctly agrees with the plural subject "the Northern and the Southern Indian alphabets."

D) "derives," a singular verb, does not agree with the plural subject "Northern and Southern Indian alphabets."

E) The second pronoun "it" is ambiguous


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The Achaemenid empire of Persia reached the Indus Valley in the fifth century B.C., bringing the Aramaic script with it, from which was derived both northern and southern India alphabets.
A. the Aramaic script with it, from which was derived both northern and
B. the Aramaic script with it, and from which deriving both the northern and the
C. with it the Aramaic script, from which derive both the northern and the
D. with it the Aramaic script, from which derives both northern and
E. with it the Aramaic script, and deriving from it both the northern and

Some thoughts:
1. Subject Verb Reverse:
Some times subject and verbs are reversed.
Example:
Had I got the money, I would have helped the poor.
Clearly, We are between C and D.
The subject of the verb "derive" is both the northern and the southern India alphabets. So, the verb will be in plural, "derive".
Answer is D.

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IMO D, C has S-V error


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