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14 Mar 2013, 09:11
I have some difficulties understanding few concepts of SC. Will be helpful if experts contribute to sort these.

Doubt 1

1. X named the electron in 1894
The sentence has past participle - ed verb, which without a helping verb cannot be the main action verb. In that case, is this sentence an independent clause?
The rule of past participle, is it applicable for -en and ed both forms along with irregular verbs?
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14 Mar 2013, 11:26
Doubt 2

Max's grandmother is his supposed Irish ancestor
Max's grandmother is his supposedly Irish ancestor

Please explain the difference grammatically in both sentences
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15 Mar 2013, 22:25
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this helps my doubt 1. Clear on verb ed usage as main verb or only as modifier
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16 Mar 2013, 05:43
sdas wrote:
I have some difficulties understanding few concepts of SC. Will be helpful if experts contribute to sort these.

Doubt 1

1. X named the electron in 1894
The sentence has past participle - ed verb, which without a helping verb cannot be the main action verb. In that case, is this sentence an independent clause?
The rule of past participle, is it applicable for -en and ed both forms along with irregular verbs?

Both the questions are from MGMAT SC book. Nevertheless I will strive to clarify your doubts even though I m not very good at explaining grammar
Doubt 1
The sentence in its present form is perfectly alright. X named the electron. Just like we played hockey. The maid poured the water are correct. Here the verb-ed is a working verb.
Whether verb-ed is a working verb or not depends upon the context of the sentence.
For ex- The electron named in 1894 is incorrect as the subject is electron and it did not do the naming.
Thus look for the subject and if the subject performs the action that the verb-ed form is a working verb.
That is my understanding. Please correct me if I m wrong
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Doubt 2

Max's grandmother is his supposed Irish ancestor
Max's grandmother is his supposedly Irish ancestor

Please explain the difference grammatically in both sentences

Max's grandmother is his supposed Irish ancestor
Lets try to understand the figures of speech here.
Here, supposed is an adjective. Irish is an adjective which modifies the noun ancestor.
Now, since supposed is an adjective, it must modify ancestor, which is a noun but it cannot modify Irish, which is an adjective.
Thus what the sentence says is Max's grandmother is supposed to be his ancestor, which makes no sense (since she is her grandmother so she must be her ancestor by definition )

Now the second sentence
Max's grandmother is his supposedly Irish ancestor
supposedly is an adverb. Thus it must modify the adjective Irish and not the noun ancestor.
So the sentence means that Max's grandmother is supposed to be Irish, which is alright.
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16 Mar 2013, 09:38
Thanks Dipankar. that will help. sometimes we are so overwhelmed that we dont the most obvious things correct, meaning my brain stopped working it seems
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You requested 'exoert' help on this and it looks like you got some pretty good assistance here. Did you get your doubts resolved?

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