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SC Hoover [#permalink] New post   01 Mar 2005, 16:24
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Re: SC Hoover [#permalink] New post   01 Mar 2005, 17:01
C) needs a possesive pronoun his instead of him

B, D, and E sounds ackward

I go with A
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Re: SC Hoover [#permalink] New post   01 Mar 2005, 17:09
I will go for E.

not really sure why....
I think it is because I can see some II on: dealing and having managerial habilities.




kind of newbie on SC........ :cry:
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Re: SC Hoover [#permalink] New post   01 Mar 2005, 19:30
nocilis wrote:
C) needs a possesive pronoun his instead of him

B, D, and E sounds ackward

I go with A


Yes (A) is least worst among all.

However, I am not sure whether (A) is able to convey the contrast which is required for the sentence.

Someone please explain what is meaning and usage of "for all....". :roll:
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Re: SC Hoover [#permalink] New post   01 Mar 2005, 20:39
(B) and (D) are lengthy and awkward.
(E) changes the meaning of the sentence somewhat.

Left with (A) and (C). I'm inclined to pick (C) over (A).
(A) states that although he has certain (outstanding) qualitites, President Hoover is awkward dealing with people (a capability, i.e. capable of communicating well or not). Therefore from a parallel point of view, (A) is not suitable.

(C) uses being an able manager and able executive. This infers capability as opposed to a quality. And the use of 'despite' seems to gel in well with the non-underlined portion (desipte... he is not..)

(C) for me.
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Re: SC Hoover [#permalink] New post   01 Mar 2005, 21:13
A it is
C is just wordy with awkward use of personal pronoun
Look at definition #6 "for" https://www.webster.com/cgi-bin/dictiona ... ary&va=for
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Re: SC Hoover [#permalink] New post   01 Mar 2005, 22:22
Paul

How can you compare ability to a person? Please explain.
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Re: SC Hoover [#permalink] New post   01 Mar 2005, 22:55
Paul wrote:
A it is
C is just wordy with awkward use of personal pronoun
Look at definition #6 "for" https://www.webster.com/cgi-bin/dictiona ... ary&va=for


I am really suspect about the use of "for" which is used to "qualify" a condition.

In this case, his exellent abilities do not qualify the reason of his "awkward". I would use "although" "even though" or "despite" for this case. However, (C) is worse with its wording.
I am not sure about (E). Can we have just "even" instead of "even though"?
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Re: SC Hoover [#permalink] New post   02 Mar 2005, 00:17
I do not think there is a unclear use of the personal pronoun. There is only a subject in the sentence, President Hoover. The pronoun 'him' can only refer to him.
This extends to the use of the possesive pronoun 'his' which appears in every other answer choices.

I still think (C) is suitable. It does not compare a quality to a person's character (not comfortable dealing with other people)
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Re: SC Hoover [#permalink] New post   02 Mar 2005, 01:46
Sorry here, but (A) sounds best to my ear. Can imagine the answer being anything else.
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Re: SC Hoover [#permalink] New post   02 Mar 2005, 06:25
In E, "even having" does not set the right contrast b/w the first and last part of the sentence.
Once again, use of relative pronoun is much better in connecting the prepositional phrase to the second half of the sentence: we are sure that the ability belongs to Hoover
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Re: SC Hoover [#permalink] New post   02 Mar 2005, 06:42
Paul wrote:
A it is
C is just wordy with awkward use of personal pronoun
Look at definition #6 "for" https://www.webster.com/cgi-bin/dictiona ... ary&va=for


Paul, thanks for the link. It certainly helped to learn the grammar behind this question.
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Re: SC Hoover [#permalink] New post   02 Mar 2005, 10:02
I had to choose from A, C, D. C is out because of "him". D might be out because of "being"? I'm not sure.
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Re: SC Hoover [#permalink] New post   02 Mar 2005, 16:44
Paul wrote:
A it is
C is just wordy with awkward use of personal pronoun
Look at definition #6 "for" https://www.webster.com/cgi-bin/dictiona ... ary&va=for


After going through that link, I will say (A) is definitely best answer.
"For all" : maintains contrast ( meaning: in spite of) (Used as presposition)
"his": maintains Possessive form.

Usage:
in spite of == when "for" usually used with all:
<for all his large size, he moves gracefully>
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Re: SC Hoover [#permalink] New post   03 Mar 2005, 00:21
Paul wrote:
In E, "even having" does not set the right contrast b/w the first and last part of the sentence.
Once again, use of relative pronoun is much better in connecting the prepositional phrase to the second half of the sentence: we are sure that the ability belongs to Hoover


Hello, Paul

I don't understand.

In choice E, the participial pharse left out the subject; in my opinion, the subject should be Hoover.

I think it's very clear, isn't it?

Please give me more concepts. thanks.
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Re: SC Hoover [#permalink] New post   03 Mar 2005, 01:07
A or E.
I would go with E.

A - Concise. But shouldn't it be "executive and managerial abilities"?
B - "For all that" sounds unidiomatic
C - "his", not "him"
D - Contrast keyword, such as "even though", missing
E - The lesser evil.
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Re: SC Hoover [#permalink] New post   03 Mar 2005, 08:21
OA is A
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Re: SC Hoover [#permalink] New post   03 Mar 2005, 09:08
chunjuwu wrote:
Paul wrote:
In E, "even having" does not set the right contrast b/w the first and last part of the sentence.
Once again, use of relative pronoun is much better in connecting the prepositional phrase to the second half of the sentence: we are sure that the ability belongs to Hoover


Hello, Paul

I don't understand.

In choice E, the participial pharse left out the subject; in my opinion, the subject should be Hoover.

I think it's very clear, isn't it?

Please give me more concepts. thanks.

"even having" is just not a good participial phrase setting the contrast b/w Hoover's inability in dealing with people and his managerial/executive abilities.
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Re: SC Hoover [#permalink] New post   06 Mar 2005, 00:00
Paul wrote:
chunjuwu wrote:
Paul wrote:
In E, "even having" does not set the right contrast b/w the first and last part of the sentence.
Once again, use of relative pronoun is much better in connecting the prepositional phrase to the second half of the sentence: we are sure that the ability belongs to Hoover


Hello, Paul

I don't understand.

In choice E, the participial pharse left out the subject; in my opinion, the subject should be Hoover.

I think it's very clear, isn't it?

Please give me more concepts. thanks.

"even having" is just not a good participial phrase setting the contrast b/w Hoover's inability in dealing with people and his managerial/executive abilities.


Hello, Paul,
Does the usage of for here suggest any contrast meaning?
I'm not sure yet.

Thanks
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Re: SC Hoover [#permalink] New post   06 Mar 2005, 12:58
chunjuwu wrote:
Does the usage of for here suggest any contrast meaning?
I'm not sure yet.


ur question is answered.. follow the link mentioned by Paul..

jpv wrote:
Paul wrote:
Look at definition #6 "for" https://www.webster.com/cgi-bin/diction ... ary&va=for


After going through that link, I will say (A) is definitely best answer.
"For all" : maintains contrast ( meaning: in spite of) (Used as presposition)
"his": maintains Possessive form.

Usage:
in spite of == when "for" usually used with all:




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