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Schliemann determined at the age of seven to find the site of ancient Troy and devoted his subsequent career to do it.
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B. Has devoted his subsequent career to do that
C. Devoted his subsequent career to such an end
D. Has devoted his subsequent career for that
E. Devoted his subsequent career to that end


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Re: Brutal SC 5 [#permalink] New post 21 Dec 2010, 11:47
I think the answer choice should be C, because the sentence cant end with that, to do it, and within splits C and E.. C is better

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Re: Brutal SC 5 [#permalink] New post 21 Dec 2010, 11:56
IMO, it is E.

I think C should be "such end".
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The OA is E.

Is there a problem with the construction of the sentence as a whole or is it just me?

Shouldn't the sentence read "Schliemann, determined at the age of seven to find the site of ancient Troy, devoted his subsequent career to that end."

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"Schliemann was determined at the age of seven to find the site of ancient Troy and he devoted his subsequent career to that end."
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Re: Brutal SC 5 [#permalink] New post 13 Jan 2011, 06:50
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The OA is E.

Is there a problem with the construction of the sentence as a whole or is it just me?

Shouldn't the sentence read "Schliemann, determined at the age of seven to find the site of ancient Troy, devoted his subsequent career to that end."

Or

"Schliemann was determined at the age of seven to find the site of ancient Troy and he devoted his subsequent career to that end."


Can someone answer my question please? I really don't understand how that can be constructed.
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Re: Brutal SC 5 [#permalink] New post 13 Jan 2011, 08:25
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mariyea@ Your first sentence is a simple sentence with the following construction.

Subject + modifier phrase+ verb+ object – this is quite grammatical. However,
In the text, the author does not want to use this simple construction. He wants to use a compound sentence by using two independent clauses and joining them by the conjunction ‘and’ -

For this sake,he uses two simple past verbs namely ‘determined and devoted’ . Probably the author would have been clearer, if he had used the verb decided rather than determined. The pronoun ‘he’ would become redundant in such compound constructions in which the subject of the first part can act as the subject of the second part and therefore we are required to drop it.

Your second sentence is close to the text but with crucial differences Yours is using passive voice for the first part and an active voice for the second part and to that extent is flawed in llism; in addition the use of pronoun ‘he’ is unnecessary.

I think the text is measuring the construction of compound sentences and the need to avoid redundancy of a subject or a pronoun in such cases.
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Re: Brutal SC 5 [#permalink] New post 13 Jan 2011, 12:53
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mariyea@ Your first sentence is a simple sentence with the following construction.

Subject + modifier phrase+ verb+ object – this is quite grammatical. However,
In the text, the author does not want to use this simple construction. He wants to use a compound sentence by using two independent clauses and joining them by the conjunction ‘and’ -

For this sake,he uses two simple past verbs namely ‘determined and devoted’ . Probably the author would have been clearer, if he had used the verb decided rather than determined. The pronoun ‘he’ would become redundant in such compound constructions in which the subject of the first part can act as the subject of the second part and therefore we are required to drop it.

Your second sentence is close to the text but with crucial differences Yours is using passive voice for the first part and an active voice for the second part and to that extent is flawed in llism; in addition the use of pronoun ‘he’ is unnecessary.

I think the text is measuring the construction of compound sentences and the need to avoid redundancy of a subject or a pronoun in such cases.


@daagh, Yes you're right about the first and second sentence. But let's take out the 'he' from the second clause in the second sentence doesn't it have a better grammatical construction then.

And isn't it better constructed that way rather than leaving out the verb 'was'????
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Re: Brutal SC 5 [#permalink] New post 13 Jan 2011, 15:17
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"Schliemann was determined at the age of seven to find the site of ancient Troy."
The way I see it:
Two problems in this construction
1) If you say "Schilemann was determined" this means he was determined in the past but not anymore in the present = and that is not the intended meaning of the sentence because the sentence says he devoted his life to that goal.
2) if you say Schilemann was determined = this is passive, meaning generally you have to end the sentence with "by something"
in another words your sentence will look like this: Schilemann was determined to find troy by "some agent", which is illogical thing to say.
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Re: Brutal SC 5 [#permalink] New post 14 Jan 2011, 11:12
elevinty wrote:
"Schliemann was determined at the age of seven to find the site of ancient Troy."
The way I see it:
Two problems in this construction
1) If you say "Schilemann was determined" this means he was determined in the past but not anymore in the present = and that is not the intended meaning of the sentence because the sentence says he devoted his life to that goal.
2) if you say Schilemann was determined = this is passive, meaning generally you have to end the sentence with "by something"
in another words your sentence will look like this: Schilemann was determined to find troy by "some agent", which is illogical thing to say.

How about if I said, "Schilemann is determined..." or "Schilemann has been determined..."?
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Re: Brutal SC 5 [#permalink] New post 14 Jan 2011, 11:45
think about this
if you say: Schilemann is determined at the age of seven to find the site of ancient Troy.
does this sentence make sense?
from the sentence we understand that he is an adult, so how can you say that he(adult) is(now) determined at the age of seven(past).......
2) Schilemann has been determined... why would you use present perfect here, grammatically it might be okay but stick to simple tense if the sentence allows you; besides, it conveys a better meaning if you used simple past tense.
hope this helps.....
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elevinty wrote:
think about this
if you say: Schilemann is determined at the age of seven to find the site of ancient Troy.
does this sentence make sense?
from the sentence we understand that he is an adult, so how can you say that he(adult) is(now) determined at the age of seven(past).......
2) Schilemann has been determined... why would you use present perfect here, grammatically it might be okay but stick to simple tense if the sentence allows you; besides, it conveys a better meaning if you used simple past tense.
hope this helps.....

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