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Scientists claim that the discovery of the first authenticated mammal bones in amber
could provide important clues of determining, in addition to how, when mammals
colonized the islands of the West Indies
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A. of determining, in addition to how, when mammals colonized the islands of the West Indies

B. in the determination of how and when the islands of the West Indies were colonized by mammals

C. to determine how mammals colonized the islands of the West Indies and when they did

D. for determining when the islands of the West Indies were colonized by mammals and how they were

E. for determining how and when mammals colonized the islands of the West Indies

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Re: colonized the islands of the West Indies [#permalink] New post 30 Sep 2009, 14:13
I thought it to be C. Why do we need an active voice sentence to passive voice by using D???
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Re: colonized the islands of the West Indies [#permalink] New post 30 Sep 2009, 21:26
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Re: colonized the islands of the West Indies [#permalink] New post 30 Sep 2009, 23:16
I feel OA is wrong. Correct answer is E. But, the meaning of E is awkward.

E implies that - discovery of bones provide clues for determining when mammals colonized the island AND how mammals colonized the island. bones cannot provide clues of HOW

Option D implies that - discovery provide clues for determining WHEN the mammals colonized and HOW the mammals were.
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Re: colonized the islands of the West Indies [#permalink] New post 02 Jul 2010, 11:25
OA is E. But for me, C sounds better.
Could anybody clarify?
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Re: colonized the islands of the West Indies [#permalink] New post 02 Jul 2010, 11:40
Agree, E sounds better. Sounds straight-forward and concise.
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Re: colonized the islands of the West Indies [#permalink] New post 02 Jul 2010, 12:12
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Agree, E sounds better. Sounds straight-forward and concise.


But dont you think that "to determine" is actually more straight forward than "for determining"?
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Re: colonized the islands of the West Indies [#permalink] New post 02 Jul 2010, 12:22
Hmm, the "and when they did" sounded awkward to me, idk. My take for "for determining" was also that the "clues" were FOR a purpose but that's just me.
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Re: colonized the islands of the West Indies [#permalink] New post 31 Jul 2010, 04:31
Between C D and E ..........due to later part of sentence i eliminated C ..........D too the same way and selected E.........

But D may me the right choice after seeing above explanation .....how the were....
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Re: colonized the islands of the West Indies [#permalink] New post 31 Jul 2010, 06:09
E , it should be as the contenders(i feel) are C and E. C is incomplete by saying "how they did"
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Re: colonized the islands of the West Indies [#permalink] New post 31 Jul 2010, 07:39
I agree with E...
Its the best among the lot !
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Re: colonized the islands of the West Indies [#permalink] New post 01 Aug 2010, 06:26
i chose E as D is incomplete, and it should be clues "for" determining rather than "of"
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Re: colonized the islands of the West Indies [#permalink] New post 04 Sep 2010, 08:57
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E it is. the OA cannot be D.

could you please elaborate?
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Re: colonized the islands of the West Indies [#permalink] New post 16 Nov 2010, 18:33
C says ".....and when they did"
It should be " .... and when they did so" (OG11)
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Re: colonized the islands of the West Indies [#permalink] New post 16 Nov 2010, 18:56
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Besides being incomplete, but more importantly in C and D, what does the pronoun -they - stand for? Is it - the West Indies or the islands or the mammals? - A pronoun should not only stand for its true referent logically but also seem to stand for the due referent unambiguously. So I would rather rule out C and D, notwithstanding other extant errors in these two choices. But E tactfully avoids the pronoun equivocation, uses active voice and employs the right idiom - for determining – and thus is the indisputable choice.
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Re: colonized the islands of the West Indies [#permalink] New post 17 Nov 2010, 12:10
I dont agree with your explanation for ruling out C:

For me is both || and non-ambigous:

[...] to determine how mammals colonized [...] and when they did.

Thoughts on that?

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Scientists claim that the discovery of the first authenticated mammal bones in amber
could provide important clues of determining, in addition to how, when mammals
colonized the islands of the West Indies
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A. of determining, in addition to how, when mammals colonized the islands of the West Indies. Provide .... Of determining. ... Incorrect

B. in the determination of how and when the islands of the West Indies were colonized by mammals. Provide ..in the determination... Awkward, passive ..incorrect

C. to determine how mammals colonized the islands of the West Indies and when they did. .... They ambiguous ...incorrect... Also provide ..to determine x and y ...looks x and y not parallel

D. for determining when the islands of the West Indies were colonized by mammals and how they were ...they .ambiguous

E. for determining how and when mammals colonized the islands of the West Indies
Correct , provide.....for determining...clear and concise

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Re: colonized the islands of the West Indies [#permalink] New post 12 Jan 2011, 21:17
+1 for E.
This sounds the best in the lot..
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Re: colonized the islands of the West Indies [#permalink] New post 12 Jan 2011, 22:53
C must be the answer imo....clue to determine is the correct usage...
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Re: Scientists claim that the discovery of the first [#permalink] New post 18 Jun 2012, 01:17
I went for E and the OA "seems" to be E as per other forums.
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Re: Scientists claim that the discovery of the first [#permalink] New post 22 Jun 2012, 02:28
I believe the answer is E. The idiom being provide+ X

Put in another context: I provided him with funds. Provided him to is awkward. E is the best choice with clear meaning and completeness
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