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Set R contains five numbers that have an average value of 55. If the median of the set is equal to the mean, and the largest number in the set is equal to 20 more than three times the smallest number, what is the largest possible range for the numbers in the set?

A. 78
B. 77 1/5
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Set R contains five numbers that have an average value of 55. If the median of the set is equal to the mean, and the largest number in the set is equal to 20 more than three times the smallest number, what is the largest possible range for the numbers in the set?


78
77 1/5
66 1/7
55 1/7
52


{a_1, a_2, a_3, a_4, a_5}
As mean of 5 numbers is 55 then the sum of these numbers is 5*55=275;
The median of the set is equal to the mean --> mean=median=a_3=55;
The largest number in the set is equal to 20 more than three times the smallest number --> a_5=3a_1+20.

So our set is {a_1, a_2, 55, a_4, 3a_1+20} and a_1+a_2+55+a_4+3a_1+20=275.

The range of a set is the difference between the largest and smallest elements of a set.

Range=a_5-a_1=3a_1+20-a_1=2a_1+20 --> so to maximize the range we should maximize the value of a_1 and to maximize a_1 we should minimize all other terms so a_2 and a_4.

Min possible value of a_2 is a_1 and min possible value of a_4 is median=a_3=55 --> set becomes: {a_1, a_1, 55, 55, 3a_1+20} --> a_1+a_1+55+55+3a_1+20=275 --> a_1=29 --> Range=2a_1+20=78

Answer: A.
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I took the set to be m, m, 55, 55, 3m+20. (second value has to be minimum possible - m, and fourth value has to be minimum possible - 55).

now average is 55 so 55 = (6m + 130)/5 which gives m = 29, and 3m+20=107

so range is largest - smallest = 107-29 = 78
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Let smallest # = x, Largest = 3x + 20

So range = 2x + 20

x, x, 55, 55, 3x+20, For Max range lowest should be as low as possible and highest should be as high as possible

also, the 2nd value has to be minimized, so it is x, the fourth value also ahs to be kept at minimum, so it is 55

3x + 20 + 110 + 2x = 275

=> 5x = 275 - 130 = 145 => x = 29 , so range = 29*2 + 20 = 78

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Backsolving : Range = 2a + 20 where a = first number.

Hence the answer is even and highest options. It should be A.
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Re: Largest possible range in Set R [#permalink] New post 08 Mar 2011, 14:51
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Backsolving : Range = 2a + 20 where a = first number.

Hence the answer is even and highest options. It should be A.


That's an awesome application of number properties to solve this question is seconds.
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Set R contains five numbers that have an average value of 55 [#permalink] New post 08 Mar 2011, 15:06
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Backsolving : Range = 2a + 20 where a = first number.

Hence the answer is even and highest options. It should be A.


That's an awesome application of number properties to solve this question is seconds.
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That's not correct. Yes, the range equals to 2a+20 but without any further calculation we cannot say whether it must be even, for example if a is not an integer then 2a+20 can be odd or not an integer at all. Also the answer is not necessarily the highest option, it just happened to be so in this particular case.
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Re: Largest possible range in Set R [#permalink] New post 08 Mar 2011, 15:19
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Backsolving : Range = 2a + 20 where a = first number.

Hence the answer is even and highest options. It should be A.


That's an awesome application of number properties to solve this question is seconds.
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That's not correct. Yes, the range equals to 2a+20 but without any further calculation we can not say whether it must be even, for example if a is not an integer then 2a+20 can be odd or not an integer at all. Also the answer is not necessarily the highest option, it just happened to be so in this particular case.


Thanks. Assuming that A is an integer is where I erred.
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Re: Largest possible range in Set R [#permalink] New post 08 Mar 2011, 16:54
I was back solving - to confirm the answer.

x^2 = 4
Implies x is not necessarily 2. It can be -2 :-D
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max range will be when 55*3 = 165 will give 110 as range.But the value isn't present.
Hence go for two small numbers , 55*2 and largest number combination.
thus 2x+110 + 3x+20 = 275
will give, x= 29 and 3x+20 = 97.
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max range will be when 55*3 = 165 will give 110 as range.But the value isn't present.
Hence go for two small numbers , 55*2 and largest number combination.
thus 2x+110 + 3x+20 = 275
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Re: Largest possible range in Set R [#permalink] New post 18 Nov 2011, 03:18
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Orange08 wrote:
Set R contains five numbers that have an average value of 55. If the median of the set is equal to the mean, and the largest number in the set is equal to 20 more than three times the smallest number, what is the largest possible range for the numbers in the set?


78
77 1/5
66 1/7
55 1/7
52


{a_1, a_2, a_3, a_4, a_5}
As mean of 5 numbers is 55 then the sum of these numbers is 5*55=275;
The median of the set is equal to the mean --> mean=median=a_3=55;
The largest number in the set is equal to 20 more than three times the smallest number --> a_5=3a_1+20.

So our set is {a_1, a_2, 55, a_4, 3a_1+20} and a_1+a_2+55+a_4+3a_1+20=275.

The range of a set is the difference between the largest and smallest elements of a set.

Range=a_5-a_1=3a_1+20-a_1=2a_1+20 --> so to maximize the range we should maximize the value of a_1 and to maximize a_1 we should minimize all other terms so a_2 and a_4.

Min possible value of a_2 is a_1 and min possible value of a_4 is median=a_3=55 --> set becomes: {a_1, a_1, 55, 55, 3a_1+20} --> a_1+a_1+55+55+3a_1+20=275 --> a_1=29 --> Range=2a_1+20=78

Answer: A.


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Re: Largest possible range in Set R [#permalink] New post 01 Nov 2012, 07:01
Bunuel wrote:
Orange08 wrote:
Set R contains five numbers that have an average value of 55. If the median of the set is equal to the mean, and the largest number in the set is equal to 20 more than three times the smallest number, what is the largest possible range for the numbers in the set?


78
77 1/5
66 1/7
55 1/7
52


{a_1, a_2, a_3, a_4, a_5}
As mean of 5 numbers is 55 then the sum of these numbers is 5*55=275;
The median of the set is equal to the mean --> mean=median=a_3=55;
The largest number in the set is equal to 20 more than three times the smallest number --> a_5=3a_1+20.

So our set is {a_1, a_2, 55, a_4, 3a_1+20} and a_1+a_2+55+a_4+3a_1+20=275.

The range of a set is the difference between the largest and smallest elements of a set.

Range=a_5-a_1=3a_1+20-a_1=2a_1+20 --> so to maximize the range we should maximize the value of a_1 and to maximize a_1 we should minimize all other terms so a_2 and a_4.

Min possible value of a_2 is a_1 and min possible value of a_4 is median=a_3=55 --> set becomes: {a_1, a_1, 55, 55, 3a_1+20} --> a_1+a_1+55+55+3a_1+20=275 --> a_1=29 --> Range=2a_1+20=78

Answer: A.


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few questions that cums in my mnd like ..y did bunuel take A1 is equal to A2..and y didnt he take a2=55 instead of A4=55?

i got lots of questions like this and i cant give ans correctly..

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Orange08 wrote:
Set R contains five numbers that have an average value of 55. If the median of the set is equal to the mean, and the largest number in the set is equal to 20 more than three times the smallest number, what is the largest possible range for the numbers in the set?


78
77 1/5
66 1/7
55 1/7
52


{a_1, a_2, a_3, a_4, a_5}
As mean of 5 numbers is 55 then the sum of these numbers is 5*55=275;
The median of the set is equal to the mean --> mean=median=a_3=55;
The largest number in the set is equal to 20 more than three times the smallest number --> a_5=3a_1+20.

So our set is {a_1, a_2, 55, a_4, 3a_1+20} and a_1+a_2+55+a_4+3a_1+20=275.

The range of a set is the difference between the largest and smallest elements of a set.

Range=a_5-a_1=3a_1+20-a_1=2a_1+20 --> so to maximize the range we should maximize the value of a_1 and to maximize a_1 we should minimize all other terms so a_2 and a_4.

Min possible value of a_2 is a_1 and min possible value of a_4 is median=a_3=55 --> set becomes: {a_1, a_1, 55, 55, 3a_1+20} --> a_1+a_1+55+55+3a_1+20=275 --> a_1=29 --> Range=2a_1+20=78

Answer: A.


Bunuel sir..

few questions that cums in my mnd like ..y did bunuel take A1 is equal to A2..and y didnt he take a2=55 instead of A4=55?

i got lots of questions like this and i cant give ans correctly..

Thank u in advance bunuel..


After some steps we have that our set in ascending order is {a_1, a_2, 55, a_4, 3a_1+20} and Range=2a_1+20.

We need to maximize Range=2a_1+20, thus we need to maximize a_1 and to maximize a_1 we should minimize all other terms so a_2 and a_4 (remember the sum of the terms is fixed, so we cannot just make a_1 as large as we want).

Now, since the set is in ascending order min possible value of a_2 is a_1 (it cannot be less than the first term) and min possible value of a_4 is median=a_3=55 (it cannot be less than the third term).

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Re: Set R contains five numbers that have an average value of 55 [#permalink] New post 02 Nov 2012, 05:13
Thanks alot Bunuel..now i got that :)..

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Re: Set R contains five numbers that have an average value of 55 [#permalink] New post 24 Jan 2013, 02:38
Hi ,

Here's how I did..

smallest no: s
largest no: 3s+20

since mean = median,

thought that numbers are in AP.

so average= (last no+first no)/2

therefore 55=(s+3s+20)/2
=> s=22.5


now l=20+3s
=> l=87.25

range =l-s=65..
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Here's how I did..

smallest no: s
largest no: 3s+20

since mean = median,

thought that numbers are in AP.

so average= (last no+first no)/2


therefore 55=(s+3s+20)/2
=> s=22.5


now l=20+3s
=> l=87.25

range =l-s=65..
Please let me know where I am going wrong.


Sachin, you assumed that the numbers are in AP, but problem doesn't state that.
This set S = {29, 29, 55, 55, 107} has the maximum range i.e. 78 and mean/median 55.

Note that these numbers are not in AP/sequence. Hence you cannot take average of last & first to find the mean.
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Re: Set R contains five numbers that have an average value of 55 [#permalink] New post 24 Jan 2013, 16:22
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Hi ,

Here's how I did..

smallest no: s
largest no: 3s+20

since mean = median,

thought that numbers are in AP.

so average= (last no+first no)/2


therefore 55=(s+3s+20)/2
=> s=22.5


now l=20+3s
=> l=87.25

range =l-s=65..
Please let me know where I am going wrong.


Sachin, you assumed that the numbers are in AP, but problem doesn't state that.
This set S = {29, 29, 55, 55, 107} has the maximum range i.e. 78 and mean/median 55.

Note that these numbers are not in AP/sequence. Hence you cannot take average of last & first to find the mean.



Thanks mate..
I thought that the numbers would be in AP since their median and mean were same.

I now understand that if the nos are in AP , then their median and mean will be same but the vice versa is not necessarily true.
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Bunuel wrote:
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Set R contains five numbers that have an average value of 55. If the median of the set is equal to the mean, and the largest number in the set is equal to 20 more than three times the smallest number, what is the largest possible range for the numbers in the set?


78
77 1/5
66 1/7
55 1/7
52


{a_1, a_2, a_3, a_4, a_5}
As mean of 5 numbers is 55 then the sum of these numbers is 5*55=275;
The median of the set is equal to the mean --> mean=median=a_3=55;
The largest number in the set is equal to 20 more than three times the smallest number --> a_5=3a_1+20.

So our set is {a_1, a_2, 55, a_4, 3a_1+20} and a_1+a_2+55+a_4+3a_1+20=275.

The range of a set is the difference between the largest and smallest elements of a set.

Range=a_5-a_1=3a_1+20-a_1=2a_1+20 --> so to maximize the range we should maximize the value of a_1 and to maximize a_1 we should minimize all other terms so a_2 and a_4.

Min possible value of a_2 is a_1 and min possible value of a_4 is median=a_3=55 --> set becomes: {a_1, a_1, 55, 55, 3a_1+20} --> a_1+a_1+55+55+3a_1+20=275 --> a_1=29 --> Range=2a_1+20=78

Answer: A.


Hi Bunuel,

Since the statement says that the median = mean, aren't we supposed to assume that it's an evenly spaced set? If so, wouldn't a2 and a4 be different from a1 and a3?
Re: Largest possible range in Set R   [#permalink] 26 May 2014, 12:17
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