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I am sorry to hear about your disappointing experience, I wish you the best of luck, if it is any consolidation I will be taking my GMAT again, and I know you don't want to hear it, but I would seriously reconsider not doing it again, if you need ANY help, please don't hesitate to PM me, I will be doing Quant/Verbal for 4-8 weeks, not what I wanted to do, but that is life
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Re: Share your thoughts on my GMAT journey [#permalink] New post 29 Mar 2011, 21:15
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heygirl,

as others have already said, u r mentally drained now. take few weeks(or months off) - i guess 2011admission cylce is not possible now, 2012 has lots of time.
once you are back with a fresh state of mind, you can then decide what do you really want to do.
though i would love to see you take your GMAT again, but again upto you.
I personally feel test day performance has a huge impact on GMAT(unlike other standardized tests). it has a lot to do with your frame of mind.

anywys,take a break,vacation may be..come back strong :)

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Re: Share your thoughts on my GMAT journey [#permalink] New post 09 Mar 2011, 11:25
RHB,
This is true. I feel like throwing up when I see CR questions because I mess them up so badly. I do try and eliminate choices but I'm unable to prephrase an answer in my mind, like many good-test takers do.So not sure what to do to start prephrasing answers.And surprisingly, I do well on bold faced or find the assumption questions. I'm still working on my CR and I hope that it will improve in the coming days.

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I know that I cannot expect a huge jump. I completely agree that our state of mind can make or break our scores on the test day.

Entwistle,
I'm definitely feeling good about the improvement but feeling terrible that I'm nowhere near a 700 or a 690 in my practice tests. From what I have seen on this forum, most of us land scores that are within the range of scores of our last few practice CATS. So someone getting680-720 in 2-3 CATS has a very high chance of scoring a 700 on the real deal! VErbal is what freaks me out. It is a totally unpredictable thing. I am concentrating on VErbal alone now since Quant seems to have stabilized for me and I'm happy with that 42-44 range in Quant :-D

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I do follow the same process for CR. I actively eliminate choices. I still get held up in CR. This strategy,eleimination, works very well for SC too. RC is a different strategy though. I am sharpening my SC and RC skills over the last 2 days. Just to make sure that those skills don't rust out ;-).


Thank You all for your support. I am still reading and following this thread,so keep the posts coming! :-)
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Re: Share your thoughts on my GMAT journey [#permalink] New post 11 Mar 2011, 11:00
I have read your post. i am facing a lot of problem in RC. my accuracy level is only 40%. can you suggest me any good strategy. which books i should follow . normally i dont take any notes while solving RC. I have heard a lot about RC 99. can you suggest me is it worth doing it? can it help me improve my accuracy. my gmat is in 5 weeks.

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I have been studying for a few weeks now and my GMAT test date is fast approaching :| - 2.5 weeks to go.

I had taken the real GMAT in Sept 2010 and tottaly bombed it(490 39Q,20V). I have managed to improve my VErbal score to 32-33 in my practice tests. My CR accuracy is still very very low. I get only 30% of the OG 12 Questions right.I have bought 2 books for CR - MGMAT CR and Powerscore CR bible. Both are great book, but, the books don't seem to translate into any strategy for me :oops:. I'm a non-native English Speaker and still managed to improve my RC and SC. Not being able to improve CR is really demoralizing to me.

My GMAT practice scores CAT are as follows:

MGMAT CAT 1 - 530 40Q, 22V <----1st week of Jan 2011
MGMAT CAT 2 - 540 33Q, 34V <----2nd week of Jan 2011
MGMAT CAT 3 - 590 42Q, 30V <----last week of Jan 2011
GMAT prep 1 - 630 43Q, 34V <----1st week of Feb 2011
MGMAT CAT 4 - 590 42Q, 33V <----mid - Feb 2011
MGMAT CAT 5 - 630 43Q,34V <-----taken last week
I took all CAT under official (timed) conditions except for not attempting the AWA. I even went to my local public library to take 3 of these tests in that environment.

Any thoughts on what I could expect in the real exam ?Unfortunately, I'm having amnesia with my past real GMAT experience :x . CAnnot remember my practice scores also that led to the 490.

I need a 650 for a sure admit in my target school. However, I'm pushing myself for a 680-700.

Please share your GMAT or GMAT prep experience for my situation so that I can make the best of the few days that I have.
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Re: Share your thoughts on my GMAT journey [#permalink] New post 11 Mar 2011, 12:34
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I have read your post. i am facing a lot of problem in RC. my accuracy level is only 40%. can you suggest me any good strategy. which books i should follow . normally i dont take any notes while solving RC. I have heard a lot about RC 99. can you suggest me is it worth doing it? can it help me improve my accuracy. my gmat is in 5 weeks


I'm happy to help :-). 5 weeks is a LOT of time. I would know, as I hav 2 weeks only :-(. Use it to improve RC.
MY strategy for RC: Read the first 3-4 lines of each paragraph. This will give us an idea about the tone and structure of the passages. Then read the whole passsage. I don't skim through it and prefer to slow down and read actively. Write 1-2 sentences for each paragraph. I used the MGMAT RC book approach(but changed it a little to suit my needs).Upto this point, it takes me 4 mins. Then I start attacking the questions. Each question about a minute. Some pasasges on OG are very hard,according to me, and thesep assages take me even 10 mins sometimes. This is all I do for RC and it workls for me provdided I concentrate during the test.
RC strategies are different for different people. Try a few strategies for yourself and see what works for you.
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Re: Share your thoughts on my GMAT journey [#permalink] New post 11 Mar 2011, 13:15
thanks for your inputs. which is the best source to practice RC? i have completed almost all questions from og 12 but find no improvement and if i am solving it again most of the time i remember the answers.

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I have read your post. i am facing a lot of problem in RC. my accuracy level is only 40%. can you suggest me any good strategy. which books i should follow . normally i dont take any notes while solving RC. I have heard a lot about RC 99. can you suggest me is it worth doing it? can it help me improve my accuracy. my gmat is in 5 weeks


I'm happy to help :-). 5 weeks is a LOT of time. I would know, as I hav 2 weeks only :-(. Use it to improve RC.
MY strategy for RC: Read the first 3-4 lines of each paragraph. This will give us an idea about the tone and structure of the passages. Then read the whole passsage. I don't skim through it and prefer to slow down and read actively. Write 1-2 sentences for each paragraph. I used the MGMAT RC book approach(but changed it a little to suit my needs).Upto this point, it takes me 4 mins. Then I start attacking the questions. Each question about a minute. Some pasasges on OG are very hard,according to me, and thesep assages take me even 10 mins sometimes. This is all I do for RC and it workls for me provdided I concentrate during the test.
RC strategies are different for different people. Try a few strategies for yourself and see what works for you.
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Re: Share your thoughts on my GMAT journey [#permalink] New post 11 Mar 2011, 13:24
aristotle RC99 imo, even groups the passages in levels of difficulty. Hope this helps
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Re: Share your thoughts on my GMAT journey [#permalink] New post 11 Mar 2011, 13:34
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thanks for your inputs. which is the best source to practice RC? i have completed almost all questions from og 12 but find no improvement and if i am solving it again most of the time i remember the answers.

OG 12 was ok for me. I also bought the OG verbal supplement. ofcourse, not much help there :)
I actually look at the OG RC passages differently. I know that the passages are less hard than the real exam but what i loved is the OG explanations to the passage. Read through it. That itself gives you A LOT of direction.
For example, OG says that when the questions asks for an inference on a point, we need to go to the corresponding paragraph and read through it, also reading surrounding lines. then we need to infer, assuming as little as posible, and arrive at the right answer. these kind of tips really helped me and only the OG has these tips! so it is likely that the real exam will also have such strategies to be applied.
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Re: Share your thoughts on my GMAT journey [#permalink] New post 11 Mar 2011, 13:36
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aristotle RC99 imo, even groups the passages in levels of difficulty. Hope this helps

Yes. RC 99 may be good practice. Why i say ' may' is because the passages were little 'off' according to me. the questions were also strange. GMAT never structures passages like the RC 99 passages. Nevertheless, it is a good idea to use it for practice.
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Re: Share your thoughts on my GMAT journey [#permalink] New post 11 Mar 2011, 14:03
thanks you so much.


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aristotle RC99 imo, even groups the passages in levels of difficulty. Hope this helps

Yes. RC 99 may be good practice. Why i say ' may' is because the passages were little 'off' according to me. the questions were also strange. GMAT never structures passages like the RC 99 passages. Nevertheless, it is a good idea to use it for practice.
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Re: Share your thoughts on my GMAT journey [#permalink] New post 11 Mar 2011, 14:54
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Hey girl: would you say Aristotle are good practice books for RC and CR; I am suddenly finding a scarcity of material for these 2 topics, OGs and MGMATs are my pillar points, but I find though the material is good it lacks in quantity!
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Aristotle has only SC and RC books as far as I know. Their website does have some LSAT CR practice material though, but no book on the CR part. Many here have appreciated the RC 99 book but I did not find it very useful. Just average - to do a few passages - that's it. I never took the results seriously either.
SC Grail is EXCELLENT! You can finish reading grasping the concepts in that book in 4 hours or may be lesser.
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Re: Share your thoughts on my GMAT journey [#permalink] New post 11 Mar 2011, 15:35
Thanks, I don't have any of these books, I guess I will have to get these and the powerscore CR bible for CR!

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Re: Share your thoughts on my GMAT journey [#permalink] New post 11 Mar 2011, 15:45
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Thanks, I don't have any of these books, I guess I will have to get these and the powerscore CR bible for CR!

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Good idea! :-) I would highly recommend Powerscore CR and SC grail.
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Re: Share your thoughts on my GMAT journey [#permalink] New post 12 Mar 2011, 13:06
I took a practice test today, GMAT prep, and got a 610(Q44,V30) :cry: :cry: :cry:
Hoped to score a 640-650. Not at all happy with the result and my real test is coming up in 2 weeks :shock:

I got many SC questions wrong and many word problems wrong. I know that I have to do more practice in Quant word problems but I'm surprised with SC accuracy! Also, I noticed that MGMAT VErbal is EASIER than GMAT prep(may be easier than the real GMAT test too). The good news is that there were no repeated questions in Quant, verbal had 2-3 repeated questions in CR(from OG 12) and one whole passage was repeated fro ma previos GMAT prep CAT for which I,luckily, did not recollect the answers
(Note:I have not done the OG 12 for Quant as yet, so I found the Quant part really hard)
Now, I'm wondering if I should push my date back by a week or so. I have to take the test by the first week of april so the maximum time I can get is one more week.

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Re: Share your thoughts on my GMAT journey [#permalink] New post 14 Mar 2011, 08:29
After a review of my practice tests, I realized that very few of my wrong answers were because of a knowledge gap. Most were silly mistakes, really really silly, and I hope to avoid such errors on the real test!
In the quant part, I got 17 incorrect and a score of 44. Only 3-4 questions were because of knowledge gap, I need to go back to the mgmat WT book.
In the verbal part, I got 14 incorrect and only 2 CR . 4 rc quest were wring and almost 8 sc questions!!!! I just realized that SC tested on the GMAT prep, and the real GMAT may be, is different from the mgmat sc concepts tested. The GMAT prep concentrated more on meaning issues than typical grammar issues(common rules).

So now 12 more days to go for me! I'm going to get down to the OG and do each na every question . Ofcourse, I've already done 50% of questions but will do wverythig this time. Any other suggestions here?

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Re: Share your thoughts on my GMAT journey [#permalink] New post 14 Mar 2011, 13:47
windofchange, THANK YOU and kudos for your reply here! I am undergoing moments of panic attacks :P here so any positive lines help help me calm down.

Well, I do agree that we need to take a lot of practice tests so that our timing and staming are adjusted to GMAT day. I have 3 practice tests lined up over the next 10 days. So lot of work there.

I am doing the OG questions timed. And, one GOOD news is that I have started to observe some patterns in the way GMAT throws questions/frames incorrect answers. I did some 40 SC and 20 PS questions today. The SC explanations in OG ARE out of the world! I really loved them and I could understand a lot of underlying things. Some common erros that GMAT tests,as per the OG questions, are Paralelism, VErm forms and Gramatical structure. I was supposed to re do my MGMAT SC book but I decided against it,because I feel the OG SC itself is good enough. Next, I need to target CR and some RC passages.

no, not rescheduled the test as yet. Most likely, I will not.I'm scared that I will lose momemtum if I re-schedule.
I'm not well-prepared but prepared ;-)
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Re: Share your thoughts on my GMAT journey [#permalink] New post 16 Mar 2011, 07:58
10 more days to go for my G-day and I can already sense that freedom :-D
I had a fight with my brain that was refusing CR concepts to enter. Finally, I won 8-) . I let it in. I got only 2-3 CR wrong in my past 2 practice tests, a number that is 7-8 rather than 2 on most ocassions. I'm very happy with this!

I am going to use the next 7 days to RELIGIOUSLY do every OG question(bad idea???). I did all the SC questions in the OG over the last 2 days and got 30 incorrect :oops: out of the total questions. However, the OG has fantastic explanations for the SC answers and that itself gave me so many new rules, something that I could not pick by just reading rules.

Today,I'm going to start with CR. from OG. Will do all the questions.
One thing that I learned is the OG questions have a certain pattern and we learn to recognize that pattern by doing questions from the book one after the other.

Anyone else has any other suggestions for me? :)

oh, by the way, does anyone know how the OG questions compare to the questions/concepts tested on the real test(say for a 650 level test taker)????
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Re: Share your thoughts on my GMAT journey [#permalink] New post 16 Mar 2011, 08:35
Wow, its getting close haan, I personally feel GMAT is all about endurance!yes, nothing can beat taking good amount of practice tests, without skipping the AWA that is; practice calimg down, if you have been thru this before the real GMAT screen won't scare you!

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Re: Share your thoughts on my GMAT journey [#permalink] New post 16 Mar 2011, 09:55
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10 more days to go for my G-day and I can already sense that freedom :-D
I had a fight with my brain that was refusing CR concepts to enter. Finally, I won 8-) . I let it in. I got only 2-3 CR wrong in my past 2 practice tests, a number that is 7-8 rather than 2 on most ocassions. I'm very happy with this!

I am going to use the next 7 days to RELIGIOUSLY do every OG question(bad idea???). I did all the SC questions in the OG over the last 2 days and got 30 incorrect :oops: out of the total questions. However, the OG has fantastic explanations for the SC answers and that itself gave me so many new rules, something that I could not pick by just reading rules.

Today,I'm going to start with CR. from OG. Will do all the questions.
One thing that I learned is the OG questions have a certain pattern and we learn to recognize that pattern by doing questions from the book one after the other.

Anyone else has any other suggestions for me? :)

oh, by the way, does anyone know how the OG questions compare to the questions/concepts tested on the real test(say for a 650 level test taker)????


May I have the pleasure to give you some suggestions? :P
If you have completed all the SC problems in OG, you should review ALL the incorrect ones (if you have already done this, just ignore this suggestion). I have finished all OG SC problems, too and began reviewing ALL the problems. It's really daunting but this kind of learning is very beneficial.

Well, I don't think it's a bad idea to practice OG problems, especially verbal problems. As you can see, doing OG problems helps you recognize the patterns--it is very helpful in SC and RC. But you should spend as much time on reviewing the problems as on doing them. I realized the reason for my failure in my first attempt was that I only focused on quantity and ignored quality; doing tons of problems did not get me to anywhere :(. Ah, I am so glad that you finally cracked CR. Can you share the applied strategy here?

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oh, by the way, does anyone know how the OG questions compare to the questions/concepts tested on the real test(say for a 650 level test taker)????


- Quant: Most people will agree that OG quant questions are easier than those in real test. However, the concepts/knowledge tested, in my opinion, are the same.
- RC: OG problems are relatively as tough as real GMAT problems.
- SC: SC problems in real test are trickier.
- CR: I think the level of difficulty is similar.

Keep on fighting till the end!!!!
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Re: Share your thoughts on my GMAT journey [#permalink] New post 16 Mar 2011, 10:39
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Wow, its getting close haan, I personally feel GMAT is all about endurance!yes, nothing can beat taking good amount of practice tests, without skipping the AWA that is; practice calimg down, if you have been thru this before the real GMAT screen won't scare you!

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Yes, it is getting close :-)
GMAT is definitely about endurance. After sitting through a Quant section and the AWA, reading RC passages really tested my patience. But, this improved with giving full-length practice tests

I'm trying to keep myself calm and hoping that I don't start freaking out!
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