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21 Dec 2010, 19:53
Thanks Pranav!

With just a week to go before G-Day, I'm all pumped about my preparation. So far my practice CATs are averaging from 730-770. I have the following to finish in a week:

1. MGMAT CAT 4
2. MGMAT CAT 5
3. GMAT Prep 2, v 1.0
4. GMAT Prep 2, v 2.0
5. Official Guide - Verbal Questions
6. Verbal Review Questions
7. GMAT Club Tests
8. Theory Sheet for Sentence Correction
9. GMAT Prep SC Document
10. GMAT Prep CR Document

I am almost done with the SC in OG and I plan to finish the CR in OG tonight and then take GMAT Prep 2 tomorrow and see where my score is. Depending on my strengths and weaknesses, I'll either go through the MGMAT SC briefly and work on the Verbal Review or go straight to the Verbal Review. Upon finishing that, I have 2 MGMAT CATs and one GMAT Prep left (not counting the older versions). I'm planning to take one every alternate day. This weekend I'll fully go through the GMAT Prep SC and CR document and track my scores on that. This will be crucial, I think. I'll also go through Chineseburned's guide on the AWA just to make sure that doesn't throw me off. Next Mon/Tues, I'm just going to review my weak areas, go through the rules from the theory sheet I made and Tuesday will mainly be relaxation day. Test is at noon on Wednesday.
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21 Dec 2010, 20:09
Why don't you keep GMAT Prep 2 as the last touch?
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21 Dec 2010, 20:23
Nah, I want to go through the GMAT Prep SC document. If I keep GMAT Prep as the last touch, I won't have enough time to review the GMAT Prep document.
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21 Dec 2010, 22:43
very right whip! take GMAT Preps a week ago so you can review your errors and have ample amount of time to resolve them.

just a little advice: try to take each test with AWA included. This way you'll adjust your stamina to glance at computer screen for almost 4 hours on the trot. That's important.

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22 Dec 2010, 16:18
Good luck next week on the test. Fingers crossed!
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22 Dec 2010, 16:22
Thanks bb! Hopefully it'll be good news
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22 Dec 2010, 17:00
Good luck whip for Dec 29
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23 Dec 2010, 15:36
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23 Dec 2010, 20:00
Just took a fresh version of GMAT Prep and scored a 750! Q50, V42!
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23 Dec 2010, 22:12
How many mistakes are there in Q50 and V42 and how are they spread?
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23 Dec 2010, 23:18
Good luck tons!
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23 Dec 2010, 23:22
8 mistakes each in Q and V. Evenly spread out, except for one streak of three wrong in both sections

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23 Dec 2010, 23:43
I dont know what went wrong but with 11 mistakes in quant I could only get 44. I got 5 wrong in first 11 and then got last two wrong. So what is the reason..getting first 5 wrong or getting last two wrong
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24 Dec 2010, 00:01
I always believed the 1st 10 and last 10 are the most important. If you make 5 mistakes in the 1st 10, then it would take sometime before GMAT rates you at 700-800 and getting the last 2 wrong could probably have brought you score down a little. GMAT rates you after each question, so in the beginning I believe GMAT will be adjusting your score a lot more since it doesn't have a clue of your level at that point in time and towards the middle it kind of knows your level so will be willing to let go of a few random mistakes.

When one is aiming for a score closer to 50-51, it means that that person is capable of answering any GMAT question thrown at him or her. In that case the only thing that matters would be time. What I did is, I made sure that I spent enough time on the 1st 10 and last 10 so that I can be clear of any silly mistakes. I scored 51 in the last 2 prep tests and in the final GMAT and I observed that I made a max. of 1 mistake (if at all) in the 1st and last 10. I think I had a total of 3 incorrect answers in those preps.
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24 Dec 2010, 00:08
thanks for inputs srjaidev

I need some help from you. Actually I analysed my prep and could see that most mistakes were in Number properties area 6 mistakes from 11. I am not sure how to improve in number properties. I know all the fundamentals but somehow I fail to apply them. I have already gone through the MGMAT Number properties guide twice. Any advise on this topic since you see to be very sound in maths.

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24 Dec 2010, 01:30
prashantbacchewar wrote:
thanks for inputs srjaidev

I need some help from you. Actually I analysed my prep and could see that most mistakes were in Number properties area 6 mistakes from 11. I am not sure how to improve in number properties. I know all the fundamentals but somehow I fail to apply them. I have already gone through the MGMAT Number properties guide twice. Any advise on this topic since you see to be very sound in maths.

Thanks in advance

It is very difficult to suggest anything specific from so little information (6/11 wrong even after going through MGMAT NP Guide twice), but here is my 2 cents:

The number of concepts or formulae that you must learn for GMAT is very very less compared to, say, IIT-JEE or AIEEE (assuming that you are Indian, I suppose you know what those are). So, the 1st step is to go through OG to know exactly what formulae they expect you to know. I guess you must have already done that. Also other books could overload you with alot more unnecessary formulae which could confuse you, so its better to keep to the basics (as long as you have a decent speed when it comes to calculation and derivation).

Secondly, it is important to understand the question. I did not mean understanding what you should find (which is easy in NP compared to other concepts where there could be word problems), instead I meant understanding what you must do to reach there. Its pretty easy to check whether you understood. Here is how you do it -
Next time you do a test, write down the steps you used. Then for your wrong answers, compare your method with the method provided in the explanations. I know that there are many ways of doing so, but still by doing this exercise you will get some idea what went wrong in your thought process. Maybe you missed a clue in the question on how to move forward and got stuck, maybe you lost your way amidst all the calculations in tiny handwriting in the already cramped rough work sheet, or maybe you got a formula wrong.

You could also find that you totally misunderstood the question This is possible because the language used in GMAT questions could be different from what we are used to. Some words could be unfamiliar and you had to take a guess about the meaning and ended up completely on the wrong path. In this case you will have to read the entire OG and make sure you understand each and every word or clause they use, not all but atleast those that describe the problem, solution or a property of the numbers.

I am sorry for the very generic answer to your question but ultimately, after learning the concepts, improvement can be achieved only by reviewing your mistakes. I used a similar method for Critical Reasoning and it helped me alot. I am right in the middle of essay writing and recommendations and work and am finding it really difficult to remember my GMAT prep days even though that would only 2 months ago. There should be alot of help in the different forums here and you could possibly meet someone who overcame the same problem.
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24 Dec 2010, 01:32
Jaidev, I don't think the first 10, last 10 is really accurate. In my GMAT Prep, I got 5-6-7 wrong but still managed to get a 50. I think Prashant might have gotten the easier questions wrong. And in that sense, Q is definitely more forgiving than V. In Verbal, I got my 12th question, 18th question and then like 32-33-34 wrong, but with 8 wrong I was pulled down to a 42.

Prashant, in terms of number properties, its more about constantly keeping ALL the factors in mind. I suggest going through Bunuel's signature links and working your way through ALL of them, noting down any mistakes and so on. Apart from that, if you have the MGMAT Number Properties, then you should have gotten a question bank with it, so try working on those problems as well. I think, with number properties, I usually go with intuition and like brute-check for all the conditions and constraints. So, its really finding middle ground for what you find comfortable.
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24 Dec 2010, 01:37
Whiplash, after the 5-6-7, which questions did you get wrong in Q?
V seems to be a totally different story and my concern then was to get a V42 so didn't care much about researching
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24 Dec 2010, 01:40
I got 5, 6, 7, 18, 19, 21, 33, and 34 wrong in Quant. 4, 8, 12, 18, 32, 33, 34, and 40 wrong in Verbal.
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