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# Should I Retake GMAT Thread - Retaking GMAT Strategies

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23 Sep 2012, 14:54
IndianExpress wrote:
Guys,

I need your opinion regarding re-taking the GMAT.
.....................n I need to answer is if 30 points (assuming I manage to score 730) are enough to re-take or I should stop right now and focus on essays and applications? I need to decide now, so that I am able to book a date for mid-Oct which I think is the latest by which I should be done with GMAT.

I am planning to apply to Booth, Stern, Sloan, Anderson, Yale and Ross. Just to complete the picture, I am an Indian non-IT male with undergrad from IIT but with below average GPA.

Hello, a lot of people will tell you that 700 is enough for these schools (in a lot of cases it is) - however, as you know you're in the single most competitive category. Assuming you have good work ex and good extra curric/community involvement, I would say take the extra time and rewrite. Maybe even another month after. To give you some perspective, I'm doing campus visits right now. At Michigan Ross' Preview Day on Friday, there 5 Indians (including me), three others were IIT.

Also:
- Don't make the classic mistake of taking your Quant for granted. Sure you're solid on that, but you don't want an even one point drop.
- Prepare Verbal holistically. So letting your CR/RC drop for a boost in just SC isn't prudent, a cumulative drop in the other 2 might drop your V score more than the corresponding increase in SC. Hit the other 2 sub-sections just as hard.

That's what I think at least.
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30 Sep 2012, 01:45
Hello dear friends,

I took the Gmat on May 31st and was very disappointed: (640, V42V, Q36, AWA-5) I got a 36 on quant - much lower than the 49-50 I got on the ALL tests I took at home, and a MUCH lower overall score than the 730 I was aiming for. I was disappointed to the extent that I decided to take a few months off Gmat, and regain my strength for the next attempt.

Now, I'm back on the horse, planning to retake the test - which changed in the meantime, so I'm seeking for some much needed advice:

1.Do you recommend purchasing OG 13 (I own OG12 + OG 12 verbal+OG 12 quant)?

2. What is the best way to prepare for the IR section? How long do I need to master IR?

3. During my previous attempt on the test, I solved 5 MGMAT tests, 3*GmatPrep tests, and 5 of the online Kaplan tests. It seems that I have very few tests left to practice on - did you find retaking the same tests on your second round beneficial? If not, what other tests do you recommend?

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30 Sep 2012, 20:09
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Hello dear friends,

I took the Gmat on May 31st and was very disappointed: (640, V42V, Q36, AWA-5) I got a 36 on quant - much lower than the 49-50 I got on the ALL tests I took at home, and a MUCH lower overall score than the 730 I was aiming for. I was disappointed to the extent that I decided to take a few months off Gmat, and regain my strength for the next attempt.

Now, I'm back on the horse, planning to retake the test - which changed in the meantime, so I'm seeking for some much needed advice:

1.Do you recommend purchasing OG 13 (I own OG12 + OG 12 verbal+OG 12 quant)?

2. What is the best way to prepare for the IR section? How long do I need to master IR?

3. During my previous attempt on the test, I solved 5 MGMAT tests, 3*GmatPrep tests, and 5 of the online Kaplan tests. It seems that I have very few tests left to practice on - did you find retaking the same tests on your second round beneficial? If not, what other tests do you recommend?

Thanks,
Maria

Hi MariaS,

#1) - You should be good with just those 3 OG 12 books. They are solid and the best source. Of course, also get a hold of the GMATprep software here:

For #2 - how to prepare for IR - we recommend getting practice with the various question types and familiarizing yourself with the pacing. For example - you can try out 100+ IR questions (multi source, two-part analysis, graphics interpretation, and table analysis) here:

http://www.gmatpill.com/gmat-practice-t ... reasoning/

For #3 - you always have GMATPrep software. And just because you "went through" all those tests - does not mean those tests are useless to you. I bet if you redid those tests, you would not score an 800 on all of them - even if you saw the questions before. Until you can confidently ace all those tests, you cannot dismiss what you've seen before. In fact - reviewing what you already did is critical for learning.

Hope that helps!
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30 Sep 2012, 20:23
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Hello dear friends,

I took the Gmat on May 31st and was very disappointed: (640, V42V, Q36, AWA-5) I got a 36 on quant - much lower than the 49-50 I got on the ALL tests I took at home, and a MUCH lower overall score than the 730 I was aiming for. I was disappointed to the extent that I decided to take a few months off Gmat, and regain my strength for the next attempt.

Now, I'm back on the horse, planning to retake the test - which changed in the meantime, so I'm seeking for some much needed advice:

1.Do you recommen.........................taking the same tests on your second round beneficial? If not, what other tests do you recommend?

Thanks,
Maria

Hey Maria, feel your pain, I've taken the test 4 times! Bumped up score from 640 to 740, so typical stats say that you can't do it, i say if you slog your butt off and target your weaknesses you can.

I got a 7 in IR (taken once), and consistent 6 in AWA, read my debrief here. http://gmatclub.com/forum/640-640-710-740-for-those-weak-in-quant-138323.html
- I skimmed GMATPill's free pdf, was good for quick understanding prior to the exam, also see Magoosh's pdf: http://magoosh.resources.s3.amazonaws.com/Magoosh_GMAT_Integrated_Reasoning_eBook.pdf

- I found the MGMAT IR tests to be too difficult in terms of content, but they're great for getting you to refine your calculation speed.

- Quick point on rewriting tests, MGMAT's will give you inflated scores as you figure out the algorithm, try to vary your tests (MGMAT 1, then write a free Knewton, then write MGMAT 2, GMAC 1, then free Veritas) etc.

- Don't make your revision about writing more tests (or even writing as many as you wrote for this prep), make it about tackling the root problem behind your score. Is your quant weak? What topics, target those topics either with a tutor or check out the various courses offered in your locality for GMAT.
Hope that helps you. I would say take at least 2 weeks rest and clear your head before starting again, suddenly rushing into 2nd prep might make you overlook grass-root level issues with your concepts.

Hope that helps. Good luck and don't let this test bog you down!
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01 Oct 2012, 14:50
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Indian IT male - this is a very competitive segment and if you are not able to differentiate yourself in any way, get as high GMAT as you can.

Why only IT males? what is with the gender disparity ;O
I am an Indian female, who received a big disparity on my score in spite of a higher GMATPrep & MGMAT CATs. I received Q49, V28 resulting in 640 I hadn't received anything less than a 33-32 in my Verbal on any of my Practice CATs. I should go ahead and retake it right?
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05 Oct 2012, 21:20
Hi everyone!

I just finished taking my gmat for the second time. Went from a 660 (Q41,V40) to a 720 (Q49,V39). I'll def share my experience later, on a different thread, but for now my question is-- Should I retake?

Just some background, I'm planning to apply for Fall 2014 to some top schools:
- Columbia
- Wharton
- Stern (Part-time program)

I'm an Asian-American female, 1st gen college graduate, with Mandarin as my first language although born in the states (idk if that makes a diff... but it sure was traumatizing in Kindergarden)

The thing is my academic background is very poor. GPA 2.89 with an econ major at a state school (RU), 5 yrs in college because I kept switching around my majors, and a semester leave (fin issues). I am currently in the process of creating an alternative transcript (UCLA Extension) and hopefully I'll get my 4.0 in 4 classes.

I did a LOT of community service back in college. After graduation, I was advisor for my sorority, did recreational softball at work, currently volunteer at a dog shelter, and I'm currently the advisor for a newly created high school volunteer group aimed at animal rescue (part of getting it up and running).

By matriculation, I will be 26 and have had 3 1/2 yrs of work exp in Financial Services- hedge fund accountant at BNY.

I know a lot of people say not to retake if you've scored 700+, but because of my ugly academic background, will it matter?
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07 Oct 2012, 12:13
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07 Oct 2012, 16:08
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Scored a 600, 640, 580 on GMAT. I understand that they will take highest score 640, however I was wondering if it's worth giving one more attempt to see if I can beat my score. Is it a case where there is nothing to lose and adcoms won't bother about the 4th attempt even if it's lower?

I don't think it will bother anyone but I would think if you could actually get a score higher than 640. So, you are not geopardizing yourself. If you are really concerned about it, you can always choose not to send the scores right away (do not fill out the school names before the test) - that will cost you extra  to send the reports later but if you are concerned, it will ease your mind.
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08 Oct 2012, 04:22
I scored 530 with perfect balance between verbal and quantitative. I was originally aiming for 700, but to be honest I didn't have a solid preparation. My main problem was with being average, I could only reach a certain level of difficulty, and then I start doing really bad. I spent months trying to increase my level, but with no use. Like I stated, I was able to get a perfect balance (can't remember the exact score). Can anybody guide me on where to start this time???
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19 Oct 2012, 17:47
Thanks for the post. Im retaking next month and Im hopeful to get 720+.
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30 Oct 2012, 15:50
Hi,

I was wondering if someone could give me advice as to whether to retake my GMAT or not... I took it today and scored 690 (Q45 V40) - I really wanted to get 700 so I am quite disappointed. I am thinking about retaking it (I feel like I could improve to at least 700 or 720 - my GMAT Prep test scores included 2 times 770 after all) - but I am not sure if it's worth the time / money / effort. I am planning to apply for an MSc Programme in Europe (HEC, ESADE, ESSEC, HSG, ESCP). My undergrad score will definitely be a first (I think in GPA this is around 3.7-4.0?), I have also just worked for one of the Big 4 for one year supporting their London Olympic Games Hospitality programme. Also, I have some extracurricular activities - student rep for 4 consecutive years, scholarship holder, involvement in student organisations (AIESEC), peer mentor, charity work for disabled kids, top 10 management undergraduate of the year for 2011/2012.
I also have 2 great (I think) references, one from my previous manager and one from my placement tutor (ie one professional and one academic).
I am not sure whether I should retake the GMAT (I am quite sure that I could get 700 or more, I had some family issues last week so wasn't really able to use the last week before my GMAT properly) or whether I should focus on applications?! I really want to do an exchange (CEMS) so I guess the GMAT counts even more...?
I would really really appreciate some advice.

Many thanks!
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30 Nov 2012, 05:53
There is no harm in applying with this score as you have 1 year work experience. In the worst case next year you can improve and apply again.
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05 Dec 2012, 13:43
Anything in 700+ range is good
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27 Dec 2012, 02:33
Hi all,
I haven't been following this thread so sorry if this is redundant. I first wrote on here 2 years ago. should-i-retake-gmat-thread-retaking-gmat-strategies-83339-100.html#p769900

690, 680 then 710. I'm glad I retook the GMAT because now I'm getting the results from applications and I'm glad I worked on the GMAT (something you can change vs school/background are things you can't really change in short term). In fact, I wish I knew score averages would go up so much from the time I started prepping (2009) til now and I wish I would have aimed for 720+ just to really secure in those acceptances. Obviously don't spend all your savings on the GMAT and don't take it again and again if you're not seeing improvements on your practice tests but for those of you on the cusp (if you're at 700-710 right now and you're applying fall 2013 or later for top bschools), I say bite the bullet and give it one last earnest go.
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16 Jan 2013, 09:16
This is a great post for those deciding to retake
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27 Jan 2013, 13:53
Hi,

I have taken GMAT on 19th Jan'13 and got 730(Q-50, VA-39). For US B schools I have till Sep'13 I guess for apps and essays. I was wondering if it makes sense to retake GMAT. I couldn't finish verbal section on time and I feel I can improve my score in verbal.
I have talked to few people but I am not sure what should I do. If I don't go for retake, what should I do for profile building? It would be great if experts can share their views on this.

For reference, Link to my GMAT Debrief: http://gmatclub.com/forum/730-q50-v39-it-s-not-over-till-its-over-146065.html
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27 Jan 2013, 22:07
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aniruddha601 wrote:
Hi,

I have taken GMAT on 19th Jan'13 and got 730(Q-50, VA-39). For US B schools I have till Sep'13 I guess for apps and essays. I was wondering if it makes sense to retake GMAT. I couldn't finish verbal section on time and I feel I can improve my score in verbal.
I have talked to few people but I am not sure what should I do. If I don't go for retake, what should I do for profile building? It would be great if experts can share their views on this.

For reference, Link to my GMAT Debrief: http://gmatclub.com/forum/730-q50-v39-it-s-not-over-till-its-over-146065.html

First of congratulations on a great score. Let me tell you that 730 is a great score.
I guess you are an Indian (I am too!) and are probably thinking of the generally high scores that Indians get. I can understand where you are coming from.

I would just say if you have the energy and time and you are 100% sure that you can improve, then just re-take it. A higher score cannot hurt you, but be sure that you will improve.

As far as schools are concerned, I would say that the decision to re-take depends on the kind of schools you are planning to target. Unless you are applying to the top 5 (Harvard, Wharton, Stanford, Booth and LBS) there is not much to worry about at your score (as long as you have a decent profile). I would advise you to work on your profile, any quick fixes that you can work-upon would be great.

Yes, I am an Indian and I will be applying to some of the top 5 B schools. Considering that shall i go for retake? I am not 100% sure that I will improve , but I was thinking will it hurt? Suppose I get same or lower score will it hurt my case?
Also, how do you think I can improve my profile? I can share my resume if you want

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27 Jan 2013, 23:16
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IndianExpress wrote:
aniruddha601 wrote:
Hi,

I have taken GMAT on 19th Jan'13 and got 730(Q-50, VA-39). For US B schools I have till Sep'13 I guess for apps and essays. I was wondering if it makes sense to retake GMAT. I couldn't finish verbal section on time and I feel I can improve my score in verbal.
I have talked to few people but I am not sure what should I do. If I don't go for retake, what should I do for profile building? It would be great if experts can share their views on this.

For reference, Link to my GMAT Debrief: http://gmatclub.com/forum/730-q50-v39-it-s-not-over-till-its-over-146065.html

First of congratulations on a great score. Let me tell you that 730 is a great score.
I guess you are an Indian (I am too!) and are probably thinking of the generally high scores that Indians get. I can understand where you are coming from.

I would just say if you have the energy and time and you are 100% sure that you can improve, then just re-take it. A higher score cannot hurt you, but be sure that you will improve.

As far as schools are concerned, I would say that the decision to re-take depends on the kind of schools you are planning to target. Unless you are applying to the top 5 (Harvard, Wharton, Stanford, Booth and LBS) there is not much to worry about at your score (as long as you have a decent profile). I would advise you to work on your profile, any quick fixes that you can work-upon would be great.

Yes, I am an Indian and I will be applying to some of the top 5 B schools. Considering that shall i go for retake? I am not 100% sure that I will improve , but I was thinking will it hurt? Suppose I get same or lower score will it hurt my case?
Also, how do you think I can improve my profile? I can share my resume if you want

Regards,

Almost all the schools say that they only look at the highest score, however I think they also do look at the latest one. So, I would say unless you are sure that you are not going to go below 710 or 720 then you can think about re-taking.

Another thing to keep in mind is the time factor. I guess you will need to spend 3-4 months to go from 730 to 750+ which means it will already be May/June when you will start shortlisting the schools, this is assuming that you will have time right-away and your job will allow you time to work on all this stuff.

I would advise you you to first shortlist the schools you want to apply to, look at the class profiles (don't look at the numbers only, take a look at a few example bios also) for those schools and then take a call. You can make a pros and cons list for each of the schools and then decide if you need to have some more points on GMAT to improve your pro list or you are fine.

Regarding your question on profile improvement, a few things that come to my mind are:

1. Develop an interesting hobby or skill that might differentiate you. Just top of my mind: you can start learning a new language
2. Join the CSR team of your organization, else join an NGO which might give you some good exposure
3. Get some leadership experience (in case you don't already have it)
4. You can also get some professional certifications (e.g. CFA, FRM, Six Sigma etc.) depending on your interests and your goals

The best way to identify what you need to improve is by first shortlisting the schools that you want to apply to and then look at their essays and application requirements. You will get a good idea of what these schools want and then you can work backwards to find out where you need to work.

You can also post your brief profile on this forum to know about the areas that might need improvement.

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31 Jan 2013, 04:20
Hi All,
I have given my GMAT on 10th January 2013 without a dedicated preperation and received 580(Q47 V23). I am planning to dedicate around 2 months for a serious preperation to improve my verbal score to atleast 43. Please let me know if this is possible in a 2 months time. I presently have MGMAT SC, Powerscore CR Bible with me for my preperation (Which i did not touch before my first GMAT attempt). Will mastering the concepts from these two books be enough to get a 43 in verbal.
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03 Feb 2013, 05:52
Hi All.
Am not asking for much, am having serious problems getting to terms with the Quant(Data suff Especially) i really need your advice and tips, took the gmat last week and scored a 400, thats the worst result i've had in my life, the score was low b'cos my Quant was awful, i scored a 14, am planning on seating for another test in 5 months time, and am looking to you guys to offer me your support and assistance. Pleaseeeeee.
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