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Re: Should I Retake GMAT Thread - Retaking GMAT Strategies [#permalink] New post 11 Feb 2013, 11:54
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I am v keen on applying to INSEAD and was aiming to apply in R1 for Jan14 intake. However, I gave my GMAT today and got a score of 700 (Q50 90%, V 34 69%). Now, I am v confused as to whether i should give a retake of GMAT since my verbal score percentile at 69% is quite low. Even INSEAD recommends that the score should be between 70-75% in both the Q & V sections.

Now, I am confused as to whether my low verbal give me a huge disadvantage Esp in INSEAD. My profile:
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Engg from a top 10 college with good grades

I was planning to apply in R1 with Apr 3rd as deadline, now if I given retest I will need to push my app to R2 which i dont want to. INSEAD is the only college i am keen to apply due to its 1 yr program. Look forward to advice..


My two cents:

I understand your problem. In my opinion, you should re-take.
Had it been any other school I would have advised you not to re-take but this is INSEAD and as far as I understand, they give a lot of importance to the verbal score. Your GMAT needs to be better also because you are from the highly competitive "Indian" pool. I believe there is no point in going in with a half baked package.


Thanks "Indian Express" for your quick reply. I also was slightly inclined towards giving and your reply and reading about other retakes has strengthened my resolve to give it.

I have read your retake brief and after reading it, I have another peculiar thing on which I need advice. R1 for INSEAD ends on 3rd April. I am planning to give the retest on around 15th March since I feel I need to focus on Verbal only specifically from a test timing point of view and not start from scratch all over again. Hence, I feel 1 month should be sufficient to prepare for it. However, I am thinking to apply in R1 itself. This is because my office work is such that unless I have exam/app deadline over my head, I will not be able maintain a consistency of focus. Having mentally prepared to apply in R1, now applying in R2 means waiting with all this tension in my head till mid Jun which I am not too keen. Plus if I now delay applying in R1, I will most likely start studying again in Mar and I will lose my momentum that I have built over the last 2 months.

So, that means in the next 45 days, I need to take a retest (by 15th Mar) and complete one application also (by 3rd Apr) ( I am applying only to INSEAD).

My plan for the next 30 days would be work on my application during the 2-3 week days every week ( when i am too tired to study) and work on verbal for GMAT during the rest of the days and weekends. For GMAT, I plan to focus only on completing OG Verbal, GMAT Prep Ques pack, eGMAT course. So, I will get around 20 days of solid study on GMAT and maybe 30 days for application uptp 3rd April.

Do you think, that since there is only 1 application and considering all that I wrote regarding my situation, this is doable and importantly, advisable?
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Re: Should I Retake GMAT Thread - Retaking GMAT Strategies [#permalink] New post 12 Feb 2013, 21:15
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Hi all
I am v keen on applying to INSEAD and was aiming to apply in R1 for Jan14 intake. However, I gave my GMAT today and got a score of 700 (Q50 90%, V 34 69%). Now, I am v confused as to whether i should give a retake of GMAT since my verbal score percentile at 69% is quite low. Even INSEAD recommends that the score should be between 70-75% in both the Q & V sections.

Now, I am confused as to whether my low verbal give me a huge disadvantage Esp in INSEAD. My profile:
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5 yr Work Experience in Sales and Strategy.
Engg from a top 10 college with good grades

I was planning to apply in R1 with Apr 3rd as deadline, now if I given retest I will need to push my app to R2 which i dont want to. INSEAD is the only college i am keen to apply due to its 1 yr program. Look forward to advice..


My two cents:

I understand your problem. In my opinion, you should re-take.
Had it been any other school I would have advised you not to re-take but this is INSEAD and as far as I understand, they give a lot of importance to the verbal score. Your GMAT needs to be better also because you are from the highly competitive "Indian" pool. I believe there is no point in going in with a half baked package.


Thanks "Indian Express" for your quick reply. I also was slightly inclined towards giving and your reply and reading about other retakes has strengthened my resolve to give it.

I have read your retake brief and after reading it, I have another peculiar thing on which I need advice. R1 for INSEAD ends on 3rd April. I am planning to give the retest on around 15th March since I feel I need to focus on Verbal only specifically from a test timing point of view and not start from scratch all over again. Hence, I feel 1 month should be sufficient to prepare for it. However, I am thinking to apply in R1 itself. This is because my office work is such that unless I have exam/app deadline over my head, I will not be able maintain a consistency of focus. Having mentally prepared to apply in R1, now applying in R2 means waiting with all this tension in my head till mid Jun which I am not too keen. Plus if I now delay applying in R1, I will most likely start studying again in Mar and I will lose my momentum that I have built over the last 2 months.

So, that means in the next 45 days, I need to take a retest (by 15th Mar) and complete one application also (by 3rd Apr) ( I am applying only to INSEAD).

My plan for the next 30 days would be work on my application during the 2-3 week days every week ( when i am too tired to study) and work on verbal for GMAT during the rest of the days and weekends. For GMAT, I plan to focus only on completing OG Verbal, GMAT Prep Ques pack, eGMAT course. So, I will get around 20 days of solid study on GMAT and maybe 30 days for application uptp 3rd April.

Do you think, that since there is only 1 application and considering all that I wrote regarding my situation, this is doable and importantly, advisable?


It does sound like a plan provided that you are able to stick to it!
I would just like to add that don't underestimate the application process. It may be only one application but the first one is the most time consuming one.
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Re: Should I Retake GMAT Thread - Retaking GMAT Strategies [#permalink] New post 02 Mar 2013, 08:40
Hi guys ,
I am an active member of gmat club . But I dont post much ,just silently observe and learn from all the posts . I am Indian male working in a reputed IT firm with 1.5 yrs of exp ..did my Engineering from tier 1 coll (NIT Surathkal ...i doubt if anybody of u have heard it :shock: ) . Today I gave my gmat and scored a 700 (q-49 , v-35) . During my prep also I found it difficult to cross 40 mark in verbal . During Gmat exam also i mismanaged my time in verbal and had 11 questions left with 16 mins remaining . Quant was over with 4.5 mins remaining (not bragging but sersly if ur quant is strong dont waste mch time in preparing fr quant in gmat ).
I know with this score i wont any good college :? , but just wanted to ask all the gurus on gmat club please advice how to push that verbal above 40 . I will literally slog for 24 hrs if required to do it . Any how I want to touch that 750 mark . Ya one more thing I started my prep in Mid dec(2012) and gave GMAT on 27 feb 2013. When i say GMAT prep that mostly constitues Verbal prep . Quant i used to do occasionally. (*Quant i dnt do mch bcoz i think When u prepare fr CAT it covers GMAT QUant .)

my performance -MGMAT Exams(sersly its way tuf than actual gmat ) 1-640 ,2-630,3-680,4-650,5-690,6-680
GMAT PREP 1-710
2-680
Plus it would be great if some one could advice me how to begin my second round of prep for gmat . the dos and the donts .

Resources used by me -
Manhattan SC,CR(not useful at all ..) , OG13(did it twice must fr all),Princeton review(not useful at ll ) ,
resources posted on GMAT CLub by souvik,whiplash ,carcass(resources postd by all of them were gr8 )
Pluss all e-gmat posts are superb .

I am targeting any of the top 25 colleges in US -
Stanford University Stanford,
Harvard University Boston,
Massachusetts Institute of Technology (Sloan)
University of Pennsylvania (Wharton) Philadelphia
Northwestern University (Kellogg) Evanston
University of Chicago (Booth) Chicago
Dartmouth College (Tuck) Hanover
University of California-Berkeley (Haas) Berkeley
Columbia University New York
New York University (Stern)
Yale University New Haven
Duke University (Fuqua) Durham,
University of Virginia (Darden) Charlottesville
University of California-Los Angeles (Anderson)
University of Michigan-Ann Arbor (Ross)
Cornell University (Johnson)
University of Texas-Austin (McCombs)
Carnegie Mellon University (Tepper) ,
University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill
Washington University

So Please advice am I Right in retaking GMAT :?: and how to kick verbal's ass :x and cross that 40 mrk !!
Also please throw some light on What is an good /secure gmat score for indian IT male from an it bckground . :roll:
Thanks in advance fr the replies :)
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Re: Should I Retake GMAT Thread - Retaking GMAT Strategies [#permalink] New post 06 Mar 2013, 06:56
I am probably the exception, but it took me 4 tries to get to a top score

700->670->690->760... I posted a debrief
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Re: Should I Retake GMAT Thread - Retaking GMAT Strategies [#permalink] New post 10 Mar 2013, 09:40
Hello everyone,
Great forum spirit here I have found this forum recently or about 2 weeks ago. I took my gmat for the first time and the results are as you see 430..Quant 30 Verbal 19...I thought I'd be around 500 or 550...I don't know what to do next..I have applied to 5 universities-2 in Canada-Concordia Investment management program and Un Of Toronto- Mathematical Finance..I really want to get into one of those two but I'd have to try harder..Now my dilemma is that I have also applied to Information Security program in Lewis University,Il , Business analytics at Drexel and Actuarial science at Maryville...I am pretty sure I'll be accepted there.I have some previous experience in a foreign bank, investment banking firm in Manhattan and wealth management in UBS AG in New York.I have very well written motivation letter and letters of recommendation from my ex superior at work and some of my professors.I have graduated with a finance major from St. John's University last year and I was an international student there. Now the question is..do i sit down and study for about a month or so for the next gmat date which is around 10 April or 16 April..which gives me aroind 40 days or less to prepare and get arround 550-600-650 mark or..stop relax and take the actuarial science program or the information security..These two universities are not near the top 100...However I look for something that will increase my chances of landing on a job...I don't know how are things in Canada but the programs they offer are great..Money is no object here.I can afford to pay anywhere however I am sure I will probably get some scholarship.I had the Barrons 13th edition done for the gmat.I recently got the Manhattan books..So please recommend me a place to start if you think I should perceive my dream of getting into Concordia or Toronto..Bad thing is they only accept total of 90 students.. for both universities....so chances are slim...
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Re: Should I Retake GMAT Thread - Retaking GMAT Strategies [#permalink] New post 19 Mar 2013, 03:07
HI Please Provide me idea of how to prepare for G mat in 3 months i need a perfect plan to score above 680
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Re: Should I Retake GMAT Thread - Retaking GMAT Strategies [#permalink] New post 04 Apr 2013, 11:20
Hi,

I had taken GMAT in may 2012. but ended up with a disappointing score of 610 (Q49V25).
I plan to take my GMAT again this year in september
Please guide me as to how should I go about this attempt.
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Re: Should I Retake GMAT Thread - Retaking GMAT Strategies [#permalink] New post 04 Apr 2013, 12:00
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Hi,

I had taken GMAT in may 2012. but ended up with a disappointing score of 610 (Q49V25).
I plan to take my GMAT again this year in september
Please guide me as to how should I go about this attempt.


Here you go: gmat-study-plan-for-gmat-novices-start-your-gmat-journey-80727.html and you can focus on the verbal: how-to-improve-verbal-from-v30-to-v40-142361.html
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Re: Should I Retake GMAT Thread - Retaking GMAT Strategies [#permalink] New post 08 Jul 2013, 00:22
Hello,

I am a member since 2007, however did not utilize this forum at my best. Now I think I am sure your help seriously ! I have already taken GMAT 4 times.

1st in 2007 : 560 (Q-48, V-19) (Not valid now!)
2nd in 2010 : 570 (Q-48, V-19)
3rd in Sep’12 : 610 (Q-48, V-25)
4th in 5th Jul’13 : 570 (Q 47, V-21) (I thought of retaking for the last time to increase my score 650+ but miserably failed :cry:

Last few month I have been preparing for the last time ( :!: ) thinking that I would surely get 650+. Unfortunately I ended up with the horrible 570 once again. I am now afraid of retaking. I am really blank on my scores. This time I prepared for almost 2.5 months on regular basis and last 2 weeks almost 10 hours a day. My scores in various CATs were as follows.

MGMAT-1 : 520: Q-42, V-20 (1st attempt) 590: Q-45, V-27 (2nd attempt)
MGMAT-2 : 650: Q-41, V-37 (1st attempt) 600: Q-47, V-27 (2nd attempt)
MGMAT-3 : 570: Q-40, V-29 (1st attempt) 660: Q-45, V-35 (2nd attempt)
MGMAT-4 : 610: Q-45, V-30 (1st attempt) 570: Q-42, V-27 (2nd attempt)
MGMAT-5 : 630: Q-39, V-37 (1st attempt) 670: Q-45, V-36 (2nd attempt)
MGMAT-6 : 580: Q-42, V-28 (1st attempt) 670: Q-46, V-35 (2nd attempt)

GMAT Practice Test-1 : 590: Q-48, V-21 (1st attempt) 670: Q-50, V-28 (2nd attempt)
GMAT Practice Test-2 : 610: Q-48, V-25 (1st attempt) 710: Q-50, V-35 (2nd attempt)

I also took Kaplan test but could managed consistently 580-610 in all 4 tests.

Now I am in a serious problem.. :cry: and trying to introspect whether I SHOULD retake?? I know my Verbal is very weak, but last few CATs I was getting average 30+, hence I thought its has improve a bit. But after retaking real GMAT finally on 5th July, it seems my status is same. Request Your suggestion on the following :idea: :

1) It is advisable to retake GMAT for 5th time?
2) Can I apply with this scores only? I am targeting Indian B schools (ISB, IIMs), Singapore (NUS, INSEAD & Nanyang), Hong Kong (HKUST & CEIBS) and CANADA (Schulich & Rotman). My brief profile given below.
3) If I need to improve my score to 700+, then what I am supposed to do and how?


My brief profile is:

10th : 80%
10+2 : 70%
B.Tech. : 74% (From NITs)
Total Work Exp. : 8+ Years in Manufacturing / automotive industry.
Current Org. : Working as manager with TATA Motors in Strategic & Business Planning.
Field of work : Project management, Planning & Budgeting.
International Exposure: Visited Thailand, Belgium & Netherlands for work purpose ( Total ~ 2 months)

Request your kind help :idea: .

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Re: Should I Retake GMAT Thread - Retaking GMAT Strategies [#permalink] New post 08 Jul 2013, 18:40
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Hello,

I am a member since 2007, however did not utilize this forum at my best. Now I think I am sure your help seriously ! I have already taken GMAT 4 times.

1st in 2007 : 560 (Q-48, V-19) (Not valid now!)
2nd in 2010 : 570 (Q-48, V-19)
3rd in Sep’12 : 610 (Q-48, V-25)
4th in 5th Jul’13 : 570 (Q 47, V-21) (I thought of retaking for the last time to increase my score 650+ but miserably failed :cry:

Last few month I have been preparing for the last time ( :!: ) thinking that I would surely get 650+. Unfortunately I ended up with the horrible 570 once again. I am now afraid of retaking. I am really blank on my scores. This time I prepared for almost 2.5 months on regular basis and last 2 weeks almost 10 hours a day. My scores in various CATs were as follows.

MGMAT-1 : 520: Q-42, V-20 (1st attempt) 590: Q-45, V-27 (2nd attempt)
MGMAT-2 : 650: Q-41, V-37 (1st attempt) 600: Q-47, V-27 (2nd attempt)
MGMAT-3 : 570: Q-40, V-29 (1st attempt) 660: Q-45, V-35 (2nd attempt)
MGMAT-4 : 610: Q-45, V-30 (1st attempt) 570: Q-42, V-27 (2nd attempt)
MGMAT-5 : 630: Q-39, V-37 (1st attempt) 670: Q-45, V-36 (2nd attempt)
MGMAT-6 : 580: Q-42, V-28 (1st attempt) 670: Q-46, V-35 (2nd attempt)

GMAT Practice Test-1 : 590: Q-48, V-21 (1st attempt) 670: Q-50, V-28 (2nd attempt)
GMAT Practice Test-2 : 610: Q-48, V-25 (1st attempt) 710: Q-50, V-35 (2nd attempt)

I also took Kaplan test but could managed consistently 580-610 in all 4 tests.

Now I am in a serious problem.. :cry: and trying to introspect whether I SHOULD retake?? I know my Verbal is very weak, but last few CATs I was getting average 30+, hence I thought its has improve a bit. But after retaking real GMAT finally on 5th July, it seems my status is same. Request Your suggestion on the following :idea: :

1) It is advisable to retake GMAT for 5th time?
2) Can I apply with this scores only? I am targeting Indian B schools (ISB, IIMs), Singapore (NUS, INSEAD & Nanyang), Hong Kong (HKUST & CEIBS) and CANADA (Schulich & Rotman). My brief profile given below.
3) If I need to improve my score to 700+, then what I am supposed to do and how?


My brief profile is:

10th : 80%
10+2 : 70%
B.Tech. : 74% (From NITs)
Total Work Exp. : 8+ Years in Manufacturing / automotive industry.
Current Org. : Working as manager with TATA Motors in Strategic & Business Planning.
Field of work : Project management, Planning & Budgeting.
International Exposure: Visited Thailand, Belgium & Netherlands for work purpose ( Total ~ 2 months)

Request your kind help :idea: .

Regards,

Prabhat


I can't speak as to whether you will get in with that score - don't know how int'l schools work. With respect to improving your score, it's clear independent studying isn't working on the verbal side. You need a step change on multiple tests in a row to show you have mastered the content. Occasionally getting a 30+ here and there is just luck, and very hard to replicate on test day when you are nervous. It also seems like you are taking far too many practice tests where you should be spending more time on content. Perhaps a private tutor makes sense?
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Re: Should I Retake GMAT Thread - Retaking GMAT Strategies [#permalink] New post 11 Jul 2013, 09:07
Hi, I am in need of some advice. I took the GMAT in May 2012 (680- Q49/V34). I want to apply to b-schools this year. I want to know if it is advisable to retake the GMAT considering the score, year taken and profile. I am an Indian and have a total of 3 years of experience as of today in the IT industry as a software developer. I have a percentage of 62.4 in my B.Tech. Also could you suggest which are the schools(US and outside) i can aim for with this profile and score.
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Re: Should I Retake GMAT Thread - Retaking GMAT Strategies [#permalink] New post 12 Jul 2013, 06:06
Hi all,

Is there any statistics that if a person has retaken the GMAT exam has increased his score compared to the previous attempts?
If he is able to increase his overall score then what is the mean of the increase?
does anyone knows the statistical figures of retaking GMAT and the revised results?
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Re: Should I Retake GMAT Thread - Retaking GMAT Strategies [#permalink] New post 17 Jul 2013, 18:09
GMAC has run some numbers on average score improvements, and the data isn't terribly encouraging. About 25% of repeat testers actually see a decline in their score the second time around, and the average overall score improvement is about 33 points... but most of that improvement is enjoyed by test-takers who started below a 600.

GMAC's blog post can be found here: http://officialgmat.mba.com/2012/12/04/ ... t-testing/. There's also a slightly more detailed article available here: http://www.gmac.com/~/media/Files/gmac/ ... at-testing.

But don't let that discourage you. Here, read this if you need some inspiration: 420-570-590-700-harvard-business-school-132221-40.html
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Re: Should I Retake GMAT Thread - Retaking GMAT Strategies [#permalink] New post 30 Jul 2013, 04:35
BB- please advise whether I should take gmat again or not.

I have a 670 and targeting indian b schools. Got 49 in quant and 31 in verbal. Had 720 in gmat prep 2.

Though I always had 660,670,680 in mgmat but always with quant - 45-46 and verbal 34-35-36.

what do u suggest ? what should I do different this time ?
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Re: Should I Retake GMAT Thread - Retaking GMAT Strategies [#permalink] New post 07 Aug 2013, 13:39
Ugh. I retook. I had a 700 44Q, 41V and only jumped to 710 47Q, 40V. I'm not particularly happy with my test performance on the retake (especially for verbal), but I'm applying R1 so I'm just going to suck it up and keep it moving.
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Re: Should I Retake GMAT Thread - Retaking GMAT Strategies [#permalink] New post 07 Aug 2013, 20:01
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Ugh. I retook. I had a 700 44Q, 41V and only jumped to 710 47Q, 40V. I'm not particularly happy with my test performance on the retake (especially for verbal), but I'm applying R1 so I'm just going to suck it up and keep it moving.



Sorry to hear that - good job on the Quant though. I think that is a stronger 710 than than a 700 and with 3Q point improvement, you got more value than with a 720 that would have a Q42 for example. So still a success!
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Re: Should I Retake GMAT Thread - Retaking GMAT Strategies [#permalink] New post 07 Aug 2013, 22:41
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Ugh. I retook. I had a 700 44Q, 41V and only jumped to 710 47Q, 40V. I'm not particularly happy with my test performance on the retake (especially for verbal), but I'm applying R1 so I'm just going to suck it up and keep it moving.



Sorry to hear that - good job on the Quant though. I think that is a stronger 710 than than a 700 and with 3Q point improvement, you got more value than with a 720 that would have a Q42 for example. So still a success!


I hope so! You're right, bb. I slept on it and I'm okay with moving on with my apps... My goal was to increase Quant and I did, but the percentiles are so atrocious that a Q48/49 would have made me feel more confident. How is it that two years ago Q47 would be 78 percentile and now it's 70 percentile?! Even my Q44 was 63rd; a Q47 would have put me in the 73rd BEFORE July when they changed the scaling. I hope adcoms see the 3Q bump and give me the benefit of the doubt.

I'll keep my GMAT books at the ready in case any schools "suggests" that I retake for the 3rd time. I almost wish they would, lol! I hope my IR is 5+. I so messed up on some of those questions. I scored a 7 last time.

Okay, now I'm going to end my GMAT obsession and just focus on the next steps ;-) I haven't even told my friends that I retook it, they'd probably look at me crazy- GMATClub only knows!
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Re: Should I Retake GMAT Thread - Retaking GMAT Strategies [#permalink] New post 15 Aug 2013, 01:40
Hi Guys,
I gave my GMAT 2 days back and got 550 score. I will be retaking GMAT by September (since 31 days gap is mandatory). My problem is that, I have an interview call from one of a top B School next week.
I wanted to know if this B-School will consider my current marks, or they can also consider my retest marks ?

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Re: Should I Retake GMAT Thread - Retaking GMAT Strategies [#permalink] New post 15 Aug 2013, 09:15
I sat for GMAT last year for the first time. I had prepared for it for about four months and I ended up with a 650 (Q48, V31). I am not native and this is what the Verbal score reveals. I hold and MBA and now I am looking for a PhD. So my 650 doesn’t help me much. I applied with this score for PhD at Schools like George Washington and SFU Beedie and the result was what I expected, reject. My score works for so many master programs but as I already hold MBA and fixing financial matters for Master programs are much harder, I am somewhat reluctant to consider one more master in USA or Canada. But on the other hand I hear advices that studying a master or one more MBA in USA or Canada would improve my eligibility to enter PhD programs in these countries.
All in all, what I have planned to do is to retake the GMAT and also consider MBA or master programs as transitions towards PhD. I think, considering the level of Schools I have focused on, a score around 700 would be enough (for PhD). As you may have seen, there are lots of stories about score improvement (around 50 points) in second GMAT experience. I hope my story would be similar. I have a four month preparation ahead of me to improve from 650 to around 700.
Thought maybe you find my story helpful. Please let me know if you have any suggestion for me.
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Re: Should I Retake GMAT Thread - Retaking GMAT Strategies [#permalink] New post 24 Aug 2013, 21:57
Hey bb and others,

Posting my situation: took GMAT end of April (4 months ago) and got 710 (47q/40v). Started studying in July for second attempt and retook today, focused 85/15 on quant / verbal. Needlessly to say, I managed time horribly on verbal and got 690 (49q/34v). I had approx 17 mins with 15 questions left on verbal and just completely lost it at the end :( not sure if I should retake and whether the 40v was a fluke...
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