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Re: CR: video recorders [#permalink] New post 23 Feb 2011, 10:39
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D is most relevant.

The argument is that an initial group of people bought a video recorder and then grew tired of it after so many months and then stop obtaining new videos. The conclusion is that once everyone who buys this new video recorder (100% market saturation) and then tire of it will ultimately hurt the video production market.

The point of D pokes a hole in this conclusion by showing that author's test group of "initial buyers" may not have the same usage pattern with the video recorder as a "future buyer" might. In a nutshell, D states that the author may be comparing apples to oranges which means that the argument is not conclusive.


Thank you very much for helping me clear up this question. I was totally lost. I found that discussing it with someone helps to bring out ideas. When you have to explain it to someone, you discover the answer, so I recommend, for those like me, who have a hard time with these questions, read them out loud to someone. Preferably an older child or teenager, so you have to explain it and understand it while you're explaining.
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Re: CR: video recorders [#permalink] New post 23 Feb 2011, 12:01
D....good one
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Re: CR: video recorders [#permalink] New post 23 Feb 2011, 17:37
I still don't see the correlation here. Is this from the OG Guide? Do you have a problem number to reference?
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Re: CR: video recorders [#permalink] New post 23 Feb 2011, 20:14
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keyword "clearly" separates the conclusion from the premise.

Paraphrase - People get tired of watching the VCR after 6 months of purchase. The sales which is high now will slacken in the coming days. Clearly, the market for VCR is going to face hard times when the market is saturated.

"Weaken" means weaken the conclusion.

(D) The early buyers of a novel product are always people who are quick to acquire novelties, but also often as quick to tire of them. -> this tells us that there will ALWAYS be a market for the product and hence weakens the conclusion.

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I'm struggling with what the conclusion is based on the responses above. It looks like the conclusion could be the first sentence, because the writer uses the word apparently, which is his/her opinion/conclusion. If that's the case, isn't the conclusion that early buyers don't want videos to watch on their recorder. It implies that there must be something wrong with the recorder. It doesn't imply that people don't like watching videos, because the demand for players is still high. If you want to weaken this conclusion, which I think means on the contrary, wouldn't C be on the contrary. Since people still want to watch videos, they will need a player. If there aren't very many complaints, then why wouldn't people want the player that the early buyers bought.


Sure, but the passage or (D) does not indicate that the early buyers are not bored anymore and so will continue to purchase videos, which will weaken the conclusion. Passage suggests that early buyers are bored and once all buyers are bored, the businesses will fail. (D) explains the buying patern of early buyers but doesn't say why this set of people will buy videos again (after all they are all bored and why would you buy videos if you are bored).
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Re: CR: video recorders [#permalink] New post 23 Feb 2011, 21:24
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I think you interpret the videos they bought the next time is the "same" buy. However nowhere its indicated - they are going to buy same things. Are you assuming this? If yes you are making a lot of assumptions ;-)

And lets even if they watch ALL of them, they still get bored and tired. So the demand is "never" ceasing and supply is on the way. The business is going to be rich and richie rich!

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Sure, but the passage or (D) does not indicate that the early buyers are not bored anymore and so will continue to purchase videos, which will weaken the conclusion. Passage suggests that early buyers are bored and once all buyers are bored, the businesses will fail. (D) explains the buying patern of early buyers but doesn't say why this set of people will buy videos again (after all they are all bored and why would you buy videos if you are bored).

Maybe I'm misinterpreting this a bit but this is what put me off a little "lost interest in obtaining videos to watch on it". This suggests that early buyers don't care about buying or renting videos after they are bored. If eventually ALL people end up this way, we will have businesses that are not selling or renting any videos. Nowhere does it suggest that early buyers will keep buying videos (and continue their buying habbits) after they are bored. Am I missing something?
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Re: CR: video recorders [#permalink] New post 23 Feb 2011, 22:40
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Sure, but the passage or (D) does not indicate that the early buyers are not bored anymore and so will continue to purchase videos, which will weaken the conclusion. Passage suggests that early buyers are bored and once all buyers are bored, the businesses will fail. (D) explains the buying patern of early buyers but doesn't say why this set of people will buy videos again (after all they are all bored and why would you buy videos if you are bored).
Maybe I'm misinterpreting this a bit but this is what put me off a little "lost interest in obtaining videos to watch on it". This suggests that early buyers don't care about buying or renting videos after they are bored. If eventually ALL people end up this way, we will have businesses that are not selling or renting any videos. Nowhere does it suggest that early buyers will keep buying videos (and continue their buying habbits) after they are bored. Am I missing something?


But the answer said "novelties" not the videos not the recorders.
(D) The early buyers of a novel product are always people who are quick to acquire novelties, but also often as quick to tire of them. -

Reread - It said "its" going to help the business. Exactly how I know anyone will not try to prove. Because the answer will not prove that the conclusion is NO NO. It just makes it more less likely as weaken. This is not a all-go stress test scenario and conclusion will likely break if one of the assumption is false.

here the salesman (as in author) is assuming
"In a closed scenario, the supply (now supply=0) and demand (=met) we can assume the business is halt".

But consider if the supply is raining and the demand is high. Then what? the conclusion falls "distributing videos face hard times."
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Re: CR: video recorders [#permalink] New post 24 Feb 2011, 03:17
D it is. None of the other choices weaken the conclusion.
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Re: CR: video recorders [#permalink] New post 24 Feb 2011, 08:59
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Six months or so after getting a video recorder, many early buyers apparently lost interest in obtaining videos to watch on it. The trade of businesses selling and renting videos is still buoyant, because the number of homes with video recorders is still growing. But clearly, once the market for video recorders is saturated, businesses distributing videos face hard times.

Which of the following, if true, would most seriously weaken the conclusion above?

(A) The market for video recorders would not be considered saturated until there was one in 80 percent of homes.
-->this is an irrelevant fact
(B) Among the items handled by video distributors are many films specifically produced as video features.
-->irrelevant
(C) Few of the early buyers of video recorders raised any complaints about performance aspects of the new product.
-->that's good to know.. eliminate..what does this have to do with saturation and low levels of video sales in the future?
(D) The early buyers of a novel product are always people who are quick to acquire novelties, but also often as quick to tire of them.
-->a possible reason why videos still may do well even after the market is saturated. If other people continue to buy videos after 6 months the businesses distributing videos may not face hard times
(E) In a shrinking market, competition always intensifies and marginal businesses fail
-->good to know .. but this is not relevant...besides ...video recorders and video distribution are not competitors .. rather they benefit from each other.



Conclusion is..once the market for video recorders is saturated, businesses distributing videos face hard times

In a weaken an argument question if we can find an alternative reason we can weaken the argument.
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Re: CR: video recorders [#permalink] New post 24 Feb 2011, 15:49
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Re: Six months or so after getting a video recorder, many early [#permalink] New post 27 Feb 2013, 06:09
Correct answer is D, because it attacks the population segment on which the argument is founded. D basically says that the early buyers' behavior is peculiar only to themselves and is not representative of the general video consumer.

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Re: Six months or so after getting a video recorder, many early [#permalink] New post 27 Feb 2013, 06:30
IMO - D

(A) The market for video recorders would not be considered saturated until there was one in 80 percent of homes. - This does not weaken the conclusion
(B) Among the items handled by video distributors are many films specifically produced as video features. - This is not relevant to the conclusion
(C) Few of the early buyers of video recorders raised any complaints about performance aspects of the new product. - Performance has no impact on the conclusion
(D) The early buyers of a novel product are always people who are quick to acquire novelties, but also often as quick to tire of them. - This explains why the conclusion may not hold true, thus weakening it
(E) In a shrinking market, competition always intensifies and marginal businesses fail - Question has no mention of shirinking market or marginal businesses
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Re: Six months or so after getting a video recorder, many early [#permalink] New post 09 Sep 2013, 05:59
Only D realizes that the passage deals only with the early buyers, and not as buyers on the whole. It offers an explanation which severely weakens the assumption generalizing the early buyers with all buyers.
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