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Re: Sloan 2013 (MIT) - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 27 Dec 2012, 07:32
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How important is the Linkedin profile? Would leaving it blank hurt?


Don't think so. Didn't hurt me. I left it blank yet got the interview call.


Thanks niksworth. Did you too leave it blank for it wasn't properly built by then ?
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Re: Sloan 2013 (MIT) - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 27 Dec 2012, 07:40
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How important is the Linkedin profile? Would leaving it blank hurt?


Don't think so. Didn't hurt me. I left it blank yet got the interview call.


Thanks niksworth. Did you too leave it blank for it wasn't properly built by then ?


Left it blank. My linked in profile is bare bones and it didn't make any sense to fill it specially for the application process, so I didn't put the address.
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Re: Sloan 2013 (MIT) - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 27 Dec 2012, 08:28
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How important is the Linkedin profile? Would leaving it blank hurt?


Don't think so. Didn't hurt me. I left it blank yet got the interview call.


I don't think it hurts. I left it blank as well, but got invited for interview. I didn't include it because I didn't really have anything on my linkedin profile that I did not already have in my application.
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Re: Sloan 2013 (MIT) - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 27 Dec 2012, 09:34
does anyone know how is the interview with mit?
what kind of questions do they ask?

i was invited to interview last week.

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Re: Sloan 2013 (MIT) - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 27 Dec 2012, 09:54
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Funny how this process works, flat ding at MIT. Not like I care though.

And, for the record, it really does not matter if you recommenders have an MBA or what school they went to. The most important thing, by far, is that they can advocate for you with specific examples of why you would be a good business leader. They must know you well.


I do think that this might be particularly pronounced at MIT, though (the fact that they don't care if you're recommenders were alums/if you have relationships to the school). All of the other schools I applied to asked where my parents went to school, and if I had other relatives/relations that were alums, but MIT didn't ask about parents and only had a brief optional line on the last page to ask if you knew anyone in the Sloan community. I know legacy status for b-school isn't the same as for undergrad at most places, but it seems like for MIT it really is a non-issue.

My recommender was also a Sloan alum, and it clearly made no difference.

I don't know if this is relevant for anyone else, but I found an article on legacy admissions at MIT (albeit this applies to undergrad admissions). It almost sounds like mentioning a connection--be it a parent, employer, etc--in your application could come back to bite you, so it might be an area to tread lightly:

"And I can tell you, from having sat on countless committees, that we simply don't care if your parents (or aunt, or grandfather, or third cousin) went to MIT. In fact, one of the things most likely to elicit a gigantic facepalm is when a student namedrops some incredibly attenuated connection because they think it is going to help them get into MIT."

http://mitadmissions.org/blogs/entry/ju ... -do-legacy
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Re: Sloan 2013 (MIT) - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 27 Dec 2012, 10:32
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Re: Sloan 2013 (MIT) - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 27 Dec 2012, 11:06

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Re: Sloan 2013 (MIT) - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 27 Dec 2012, 11:07
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Funny how this process works, flat ding at MIT. Not like I care though.

And, for the record, it really does not matter if you recommenders have an MBA or what school they went to. The most important thing, by far, is that they can advocate for you with specific examples of why you would be a good business leader. They must know you well.


I do think that this might be particularly pronounced at MIT, though (the fact that they don't care if you're recommenders were alums/if you have relationships to the school). All of the other schools I applied to asked where my parents went to school, and if I had other relatives/relations that were alums, but MIT didn't ask about parents and only had a brief optional line on the last page to ask if you knew anyone in the Sloan community. I know legacy status for b-school isn't the same as for undergrad at most places, but it seems like for MIT it really is a non-issue.

My recommender was also a Sloan alum, and it clearly made no difference.

I don't know if this is relevant for anyone else, but I found an article on legacy admissions at MIT (albeit this applies to undergrad admissions). It almost sounds like mentioning a connection--be it a parent, employer, etc--in your application could come back to bite you, so it might be an area to tread lightly:

"And I can tell you, from having sat on countless committees, that we simply don't care if your parents (or aunt, or grandfather, or third cousin) went to MIT. In fact, one of the things most likely to elicit a gigantic facepalm is when a student namedrops some incredibly attenuated connection because they think it is going to help them get into MIT."

http://mitadmissions.org/blogs/entry/ju ... -do-legacy


I'm fairly certain other schools collect this information for internal demographic information only - I doubt it has any effect on your candidacy. Most people just drop names expecting admissions committee members to remember random alumni, which is just not going to happen. It ends up sounding silly and it has no bearing on how successful you will be.
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Re: Sloan 2013 (MIT) - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 27 Dec 2012, 11:08
Just submitted my application for round 2.
Had some troubles with the youtube video, but eventually all was solved :-)

Good luck to us all.
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Re: Sloan 2013 (MIT) - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 27 Dec 2012, 16:04
Just submitted my app!

And thus the wait begins... or not, seeing as how I've got exactly a week to finish Kellogg and Michigan, and then a couple of days for Booth. Hello 2013!

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Re: Sloan 2013 (MIT) - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 27 Dec 2012, 18:50
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Got the result yesterday and am not invited :(

Anyways since I was planning to release some stuff of my application (the optional essay) in case I am rejected here it is ...

Maybe somebody can use it as a thought provoking impulse.

Since the whole application process for an MBA is really dry and MIT states on various occasions that it has a big emphasize on community and honors humor I figured why not making a funny video that shows my personal side.

So here it is ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59hwhAKSa_A

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Ohhh god, I am very sorry to say this, but I thought this video fell into the type of things that in spanish are called "pena ajena" ... I could not watch for more than 10 secs.

Cheers for the brass balls it took to submit this though! :-D
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Re: Sloan 2013 (MIT) - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 27 Dec 2012, 20:16
str1der wrote:
The MIT Sloan ding letter explicitly mentions that there are 324 seats in the MBA program this year. They have mentioned 324 twice, and specifically mentioned that this year 'approx. 4,000 applicants will compete for 324 seats in the MBA program'. This seems a step down - last year they matriculated 400+ students. Hence, even more competitive this year



The 324 number is for the entering class. Given Sloan's roughly 66% yield, that means they will probably accept around 530ish for the MBA program. MIT accepts an equal number from both rounds while round 2 gets twice as many applicants. So for round 2, the acceptance rate will be around 10%. Brutal.
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Re: Sloan 2013 (MIT) - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 28 Dec 2012, 12:33
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How important is the Linkedin profile? Would leaving it blank hurt?


Since they explicitly ask for it, I would assume that it is very important and have it filled out completely. Look at it as another opportunity to sell yourself to the adcom.
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Re: Sloan 2013 (MIT) - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 28 Dec 2012, 12:34
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Don't think so. Didn't hurt me. I left it blank yet got the interview call.



I stand corrected. Perhaps its just a nice to have.
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Re: Sloan 2013 (MIT) - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 28 Dec 2012, 12:42
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Just submitted my app!

And thus the wait begins... or not, seeing as how I've got exactly a week to finish Kellogg and Michigan, and then a couple of days for Booth. Hello 2013!

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Re: Sloan 2013 (MIT) - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 28 Dec 2012, 12:43
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I really loved this video; but I don't think it helped the application of the person who did it. It didn't really tell the adcom anything about the applicant that would make them choose this person over any of the other thousands who applied. While the video itself is charming, clever and very well done, it is also the equivalent of writing out the lyrics to the "All About the Benjamins" for your goals essay or showing up in a Statue of Liberty costume at your US citizenship exam. It shows where you want to be, but the fact that you've applied already shows that. Your video needs to focus on "why"---mostly,why should an adcom pic you.

Still, I give many props to whoever did this. Life is about risks, and this one was well executed.
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Re: Sloan 2013 (MIT) - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 28 Dec 2012, 13:36
mbaover30, that is great advice for R2 applicants - use the optional section to further emphasize why you deserve to be admitted, not just some entertaining or quirky fact. Looking back on my application, I think I made the same mistake as the original poster...since we're all in a sharing mood, I'll let you all be the judge:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EA1iko-lgqk



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I really loved this video; but I don't think it helped the application of the person who did it. It didn't really tell the adcom anything about the applicant that would make them choose this person over any of the other thousands who applied. While the video itself is charming, clever and very well done, it is also the equivalent and writing out the lyrics to the "All About the Benjamins" for your goals essay or showing up in a Statue of Liberty costume at your US citizenship exam. It shows where you want to be, but the fact that you've applied already shows that. Your video needs to focus on "why"---mostly,why should an adcom pic you.

Still, I give many props to whoever did this. Life is about risks, and this one was well executed.
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Re: Sloan 2013 (MIT) - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 28 Dec 2012, 20:31
I think the LinkedIn profile, much like the supplemental essay, is MIT Sloan's response to changing times. A high percentage of applicants use LinkedIn, and have endorsements and recommendation from previous employers on their profiles - while this would be interesting to take a look at, I'm pretty confident that, like the supplemental essay, it is not scoreable, and hence does not eventually feature into the AdCom's metrics (they score your application objectively).
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Re: Sloan 2013 (MIT) - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 28 Dec 2012, 21:16
Rod Garcia has stated explicitly in an interview that the supplemental does not factor into their quantitative rating of applicants. It's just a nice "extra" that they look at. My guess is if the rest of your app is strong, a good supplemental will reinforce the strength of your app while a weak app will not be saved by an excellent supplemental.

I too did not post my linkedin url since it's verbatim my resume and would add nothing to my candidacy. And i actually wrote an essay for my supplemental, talking about something i enjoy doing and how i plan to contribute to sloan through it. Unlike the essays, it was a bit funnier and warmer, so it introduced a different aspect of me. The key to all this is that you want to avoid repeating information throughout your resume, essays, powerpoint, video, etc. Come across as interesting and multi-dimensional.
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Re: Sloan 2013 (MIT) - Calling All Applicants [#permalink] New post 28 Dec 2012, 21:39
I left linkedin url blank and put an essay as supplemental. However, I was pretty stressed out going by some of the videos I came across. I am much relieved to see that I wasn't alone in thinking so, and resisting the urge to follow the herd.

To add to jwcardinal, I remember reading on some chat transcript - 'If you submit a video, you better ask yourself whether there is a pertinent need to use that medium to convey the info, could the same info be conveyed through an easier way ?'
If the answers are NO and YES, think twice before putting that video in just because you thought it'd give you brownie points for quirk and humor.

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I'll add my two cents about supplemental material and LinkedIn profiles. I neither did a video for the supplemental material nor added my LinkedIn profile in my application. And, of course, I'll add the caveat that this is based on one person's experience and is, by no means, the "correct" thing to do for everyone. It may seem like an obvious statement, but a lot of times, when applicants are looking to figure out how to get that interview, they can't see the forest through the trees. They will just think that because one person did it and was successful, it automatically means that they have to do it as well. I had to tear myself away from that urge too when I was applying - there's just no formula that is going to guarantee you an interview. I digress ....

I'll start with LinkedIn first - I didn't do it because 1) I really don't use LinkedIn that much and thus don't have much material on there, and 2) if I were to add more material on my LinkedIn profile, it would be much of the same stuff that I had on my resume. I didn't see there being anything extra that the Adcom could glean from me adding a LinkedIn profile, so I decided against it.

In terms of the supplemental material, I think it is necessary to always keep in mind that you're still trying to give the Adcom a more complete picture of you as a candidate/applicant. All the rules that you were fastidiously adhering to in your essays, your guidance to your recommenders, your interview preparations, etc., still apply. It is your chance to add something extra about yourself that can help them remember you as a unique candidate. So why some people find that 1) pandering to the Adcom, 2) reiterating something that was probably already iterated in their resumes/essays, 3) go way over the time limit, or 4) having typos or displaying generally poor execution is/are the way to go for their supplemental material is completely beyond me. It's still part of the overall package and speaks volumes about how self-aware you are. If it's poorly done, it's likely not going to reflect well on you.

Having lurked a bit in the Sloan forum while I was preparing my application, it just seemed like people were being (self-)intimidated into doing a video for their supplemental material. That's just one medium, and a few people do it very well, while many don't. If videos aren't your strength and/or if you don't have time to properly spend on the video, it would probably be best for you to stick to something that would make a better impression on the Adcom. The counter argument I'll get for this is that if everyone does videos, then I'd be at a disadvantage if I do an essay because videos make a lasting impression. Yes and no. If your video sucks, then you've hurt yourself a whole lot more than if you spend time on a stellar essay about something that the Adcom thinks is really unique.

And - at least for me - the supplemental material should NOT be a music video for the sake of music videos. It's important to step back and realize that the people on the Adcom look at thousands of these things. They know kitsch when they see kitsch, they know lack of substance when they see lack of substance. Just because you have a song in the background doesn't make it substantive. And by the way, a slideshow in video form is just that - a slideshow. AND, it is tougher for the viewer to control the rate at which they view each "slide" in your video, especially if you have text (and some videos I saw on YouTube had LOTS of it), do you really want it to skip by in a flash? These reviewers go through these things really quickly and, I'd think, often have to take the path of least resistance because there are so many applications.

Anyhow, when I thought about my strategy for the supplemental material, I realized that I really didn't have the time to properly put together a strong video, plus, the stuff that I wanted to get across would've likely required more than a minute's worth of video. So I ended up sending a PDF instead - it was something that I knew I could put together well *and* it would get my point across.

So yes, that's my two (or twenty) cents. Take from it what you like. Good luck to you Round 2 applicants!

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