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25 Mar 2010, 12:31
Ian Stewart and tenamin,

Great explaination!
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26 Mar 2010, 11:39
IMO A

Explanation -
Question asks for the option which strengthen the conclusion that fund raisers were not good at work

B, C, D, E actually weakens it by saying that fund raisers did a good job. Read them carefully
So A is the only option left
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27 Mar 2010, 21:32
I will also go with C only.

Can someone explain here why the OA has to be A?
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07 Apr 2010, 07:24
A, it was not easy though. It took me long time. Since I was not very happy with C I read all the options again.

Not C, because it is talking about some people (a very few perhaps) who donated without any canvassing efforts. 'Most' has been used to classify a group who donated last year--among those who donated the last and this year as well. This group could be big/small.

Why A even though it looks unlikely? Because of the argument: donation seekers have not canvassed enough. This would translate into them being average--at par with other universities.

Nice one.
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07 Apr 2010, 09:57
HOW THE HECK CAN A BE THE OA? I TOTALLY DISAGREE
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08 Apr 2010, 14:47
I got A.

The initial statement states that “the people most likely to donate are those who have donated in the past.” If we take that as true, then it is true for most universities. The argument is that in order for Smithtown to have done a good job, they would have had to increase their success rate with the people that have never donated before. Since they were only as “successful in their contacts with potential donors who had never given before” as other universities, they must have concentrated on the people that have donated before in order to do better than other universities.
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08 Apr 2010, 21:36
IMO C....
Please mention the source of question. Option A appears Out of Scope !!!
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29 Jul 2010, 10:49
It´s clearly A.
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03 Jan 2011, 10:45
According to C, if most of the donations came to Smithtown University from people who had previously donated to it and were made without the university's fund-raisers having made any contact with the donors, that means that SUniversity did not made any effort canvassing.

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06 Jan 2011, 03:37
Me too C
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29 Mar 2011, 11:03
"Smithtown University’s fund-raisers succeeded in getting donations from 80 percent of the potential ---***donors they contacted***---" --> That's why C is irrelevant.

(C) This year most of the donations that came to Smithtown University from people who had previously donated to it were made **without the university’s fund-raisers having made any contact with the donors.**

(A) Smithtown University’s fund-raisers were successful in their contacts with potential donors who had never given before about as frequently as were fund-raisers for other universities in their contacts with such people. ---> supports "does not indicate that they were doing a good job". They just do as much as other university's fund-raisers do.
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29 Mar 2011, 12:55
its confusing....i thought it is C....tough one though...
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29 Mar 2011, 20:46
Answer looks like C. Could some instructor try to explain this. What is the source of this question? Option A looks like weakening the argument instead of strengthening. Hope this is not from 1000 series!!!
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09 Apr 2011, 12:11
IMO A.

B-E actually weaken the argument by stating that the University has been successful with new donors. The argument states the high success rate is because they got the bulk of their donations from the same old crowd of habitual donors. A is the only one that tackles this by saying that they were just as successful with new donors as other universities showing that the high success rate does not indicate a wildly successful campaign thereby supporting the argument.

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12 May 2011, 07:48
IMO C.

"The high success rate shows insufficient canvassing effort."

This year most of the donations that came to Smithtown University from people who had previously donated to it were made without the university’s fund-raisers having made any contact with the donors.

This makes the most sense.
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12 May 2011, 07:49
IMO C.

"The high success rate shows insufficient canvassing effort."

This year most of the donations that came to Smithtown University from people who had previously donated to it were made without the university’s fund-raisers having made any contact with the donors.

There was no contact, yet the funds were raised. This shows insufficient canvassing effort. This makes the most sense.

Can we have an instructor to take a look at this?
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12 May 2011, 23:16
Between A and C, A doesn't really strengthen the conclusion about insufficient canvassing.

C says that most of the donation from a group of people who have donated earlier came without even contacting them. Gives a slight hint about non utilization of canvassing work itself.

C is a better choice.
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18 May 2011, 10:07
mbaMission wrote:
Smithtown University’s fund-raisers succeeded in getting donations from 80 percent of the potential donors they contacted. This success rate, exceptionally high for university fund-raisers, does not indicate that they were doing a good job. On the contrary, since the people most likely to donate are those who have donated in the past, good fund-raisers constantly try less-likely prospects in an effort to expand the donor base. The high success rate shows insufficient canvassing effort.

Which of the following, if true, provides more support for the argument?

(A) Smithtown University’s fund-raisers were successful in their contacts with potential donors who had never given before about as frequently as were fund-raisers for other universities in their contacts with such people.
(B) This year the average size of the donations to Smithtown University from new donors when the university’s fund-raisers had contacted was larger than the average size of donations from donors who had given to the university before.
(C) This year most of the donations that came to Smithtown University from people who had previously donated to it were made without the university’s fund-raisers having made any contact with the donors.
(D) The majority of the donations that fund-raisers succeedned in getting for Smithtown University this year were from donors who had never given to the university before.
(E) More than half of the money raised by Smithtown University’s fund-raisers came from donors who had never previously donated to the university.

Pls Explain

this one was a bouncer for upar cut , got A in 3:31 min .

mark one of the conclusions here ' does not indicate that they were doing a good job now think of a comparison between smithtown univ fundraisers and fundraisers from other univ as stated in A. as frequently as is the clue when A is read carefully, the fundraisers from smithtown univ are compared to fundraisers from other univ , and the criterion is ' success with new fund raisers' . A states ST univ fundraisers were no better than fundraisers from other univ. A supports the argument.

the answer is clear A therefore.

As an after thought i think i should clarify why C is incorrect.

the main conclusion is The high success rate shows insufficient canvassing effort

C states the fund raisers did not contact most of those who donated previously. that means they contacted mostly new potential donors and probably succeeded , hence not insufficient canvassing efforts .this attacks the main conclusion rather than supporting it.
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04 Jul 2011, 00:15
mbaMission wrote:
Smithtown University’s fund-raisers succeeded in getting donations from 80 percent of the potential donors they contacted. This success rate, exceptionally high for university fund-raisers, does not indicate that they were doing a good job. On the contrary, since the people most likely to donate are those who have donated in the past, good fund-raisers constantly try less-likely prospects in an effort to expand the donor base. The high success rate shows insufficient canvassing effort.

"less likely prospects" is important here.
Since C says
 from people who had previously donated to it were made without the university’s fund-raisers having made any contact with the donors.

So these donors are not the less likely prospects

In A it is mentioned that
 contacts with potential donors who had never given before
shows that less likely prospects were contacted but nothing is mentioned of their donation which was the main reason why the fund raiser was held in the first place

Hence IMO A
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