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Stanford Rejects Perfect Scores of Applicants [#permalink] New post 06 Apr 2010, 15:45
Know where I can find an article that discusses stanford business school rejecting all the 800 GMAT applicants? I remember this being discussed here, but I could not come up with it when I did a search. Thanks.
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Re: Stanford Rejects Perfect Scores of Applicants [#permalink] New post 06 Apr 2010, 18:26
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Re: Stanford Rejects Perfect Scores of Applicants [#permalink] New post 07 Apr 2010, 05:19
I've never found anything actually besides random message board posts about those rejected students.

Although, Stanford quotes their entire GMAT range on their incoming class profiles and they go back several years. In two of the past four classes, the range only goes up to 790. With 5000-7500 applicants a cycle, it seems very likely that Stanford rejected at least one 800 score in at least those two years where the range stops at 790.
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Re: Stanford Rejects Perfect Scores of Applicants [#permalink] New post 07 Apr 2010, 06:57
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There's an applicant this year to Wharton who got rejected w/o interview, with plenty of work experience and 800.

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Re: Stanford Rejects Perfect Scores of Applicants [#permalink] New post 07 Apr 2010, 15:20
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I wonder if it matters to the adcoms whether an applicant has an 800 GMAT or "just" say 780. After some score level, there's probably not much difference in perception. And having an 800 GMAT and being rejected should not be unusual. Even if say all 4-5 applicants with 800s in an application season are rejected it shouldn't be surprising given a 90%+ rejection rate. Fit always plays a bigger factor.
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Re: Stanford Rejects Perfect Scores of Applicants [#permalink] New post 13 Jun 2010, 18:41
The people who are spreading the myth that Stanford rejects applicants with perfect 800 GMAT scores are exactly those with problems with Critical Reasoning skills.

Stanford happens to have rejected many candidates with an 800, but that's just statistics combined with their policy of not making the GMAT an overriding factor in acceptance. It doesn't mean that they don't like candidates with an 800. Even my brother who's at Stanford right now made that same logical mistake (but that's why he got a 750 and I got a 780 :wink:).

Here's the quote from a speech welcoming the MBA class of 2005:
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"With 14 applicants for every space in the class, we had to make some difficult decisions," said Bolton. He continued, "we turned down every applicant with an 800 GMAT score this year. We also turned down Olympic medalists, entrepreneurs, managers of thriving businesses, Rhodes Scholars — incredible people who, like you, have achieved amazing success in life and who have compelling prospects for the future.

Source: http://www.urch.com/forums/mba-admissio ... epted.html

Surely, you don't think Stanford rejects entrepreneurs because they are entrepreneurs.
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Re: Stanford Rejects Perfect Scores of Applicants [#permalink] New post 14 Jun 2010, 04:37
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There's an applicant this year to Wharton who got rejected w/o interview, with plenty of work experience and 800.

2010-profiles-w-admit-dings-results-no-discussion-78475-142.html


This guy is 37.
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Re: Stanford Rejects Perfect Scores of Applicants [#permalink] New post 16 Jun 2010, 01:50
MBAUncle wrote:
asimov wrote:
There's an applicant this year to Wharton who got rejected w/o interview, with plenty of work experience and 800.

2010-profiles-w-admit-dings-results-no-discussion-78475-142.html


This guy is 37.


Yeah, I posted a reference to that in another thread.

37, and already in a position where he'd likely be able to pick and choose MBAs to hire for his desk. His next stop in business life is to manage throngs of MBAs, not turn into one himself. That's what comes to mind for me.
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Re: Stanford Rejects Perfect Scores of Applicants [#permalink] New post 16 Jun 2010, 01:55
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MBAUncle wrote:
asimov wrote:
There's an applicant this year to Wharton who got rejected w/o interview, with plenty of work experience and 800.

2010-profiles-w-admit-dings-results-no-discussion-78475-142.html


This guy is 37.


Yeah, I posted a reference to that in another thread.

37, and already in a position where he'd likely be able to pick and choose MBAs to hire for his desk. His next stop in business life is to manage throngs of MBAs, not turn into one himself. That's what comes to mind for me.


Where does it say that he got dinged w/o interview?
Right now, it just says "School: Wharton - Submitted @ R2 deadline (Best of the best)"
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Re: Stanford Rejects Perfect Scores of Applicants [#permalink] New post 16 Jun 2010, 02:14
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Where does it say that he got dinged w/o interview?
Right now, it just says "School: Wharton - Submitted @ R2 deadline (Best of the best)"


If you go to the Wharton admits list, then you can find Lugo there in ding without interview list. That's probably a disadvantage of a too successful career :(
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Re: Stanford Rejects Perfect Scores of Applicants [#permalink] New post 16 Jun 2010, 03:12
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AloneAndInsufficient wrote:

Where does it say that he got dinged w/o interview?
Right now, it just says "School: Wharton - Submitted @ R2 deadline (Best of the best)"


If you go to the Wharton admits list, then you can find Lugo there in ding without interview list. That's probably a disadvantage of a too successful career :(


There's honestly not much an MBA could've offered him at that point. You also have to wonderr what the tone of his essays was - hopefully he didn't exude that same "best of the best" one-app mentality from his essays.
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Re: Stanford Rejects Perfect Scores of Applicants [#permalink] New post 10 Oct 2010, 09:06
Super awesome. Thanks for the inspiration.
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Re: Stanford Rejects Perfect Scores of Applicants [#permalink] New post 11 Oct 2010, 11:52
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AloneAndInsufficient wrote:

Where does it say that he got dinged w/o interview?
Right now, it just says "School: Wharton - Submitted @ R2 deadline (Best of the best)"


If you go to the Wharton admits list, then you can find Lugo there in ding without interview list. That's probably a disadvantage of a too successful career :(


There's honestly not much an MBA could've offered him at that point. You also have to wonderr what the tone of his essays was - hopefully he didn't exude that same "best of the best" one-app mentality from his essays.


Agree...but as head of a quant group at an investment bank he might be a good candidate for an Executive MBA at Wharton. Perhaps trying to move into senior corporate leadership (CEO, COO, etc).

There's so much more than work experience and scores that go into an application. Some people feel entitled to got to Wharton or Harvard with a 780 or 800 core. I think this can get them dinged pretty fast.
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hmm... rejecting a 800 scorer would make us try to score "less" than 800... not a frightening and irrealistic perspective to me :p
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and btw, I totally agree with the fact that, as they take other things into considerations, it would be difficult to infer from this small (and unrepresentative) sample a rule such as "admission staff reject 800 GMAT scorers".
So please just go ahead and do not be afraid of scoring 800 :P
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You can be insanely smart and not be able to lead. The MBA is supposed to be a leadership degree at its core. I had an MIT grad in my Officer Candidate School class who graduated with something like a 3.9 in mechanical engineering, but he was so socially inept that he came across as stupid. He ended up attriting because no one would follow him.

That said, there's no way an 800 hurts anyone on its merit alone.
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Leadership is definitely a "key" component of the application requirement... Not sure if everyone can be one though... and itis sometimes difficult to "prove it" don't you think? (even if it happens that people invent some stories... but I have been told that admission staff is used to that, and tend to be severe if they notice it)
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Re: Stanford Rejects Perfect Scores of Applicants [#permalink] New post 06 Dec 2010, 05:10
btw: there are also 650 Gmat scores who manage to go to Wharton... another evidence that GMAT is JUST one of the stuff to take into account
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Re: Stanford Rejects Perfect Scores of Applicants [#permalink] New post 11 Jun 2012, 07:29
this is a great post thanks
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Re: Stanford Rejects Perfect Scores of Applicants [#permalink] New post 11 Jun 2012, 08:03
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btw: there are also 650 Gmat scores who manage to go to Wharton... another evidence that GMAT is JUST one of the stuff to take into account


True, some 650's will get into Wharton, but at the same time, those guys had truly impressive applications in nearly every other metric, so it's still very unlikely that someone will get into Wharton with a sub 700 score.
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