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I'd like to get your opinions-- it's between Stern (no money) and USC (half-tuition scholarship). I went to admit weekends for both schools and liked both. I know Stern is probably more respected and higher ranking, but I did like USC when I visited and their alumni network is really strong in SoCal. Plus the cost of living in NYC will make Stern more than 2x as expensive. I'd like to into high tech most likely and don't have too much of a preference on location. Thx in advance
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Re: Stern (no money) vs. USC Marshall (Half-ride) [#permalink] New post 02 May 2012, 22:34
I would probably say Stern... the school has a better brand, more reputed and its alumni network is impressive.

USC is good if you want to get into the mid sized firms/family owned business in So Cal but I have not seen much tech hiring from the school. The big firms like Microsoft, Google, Intel come for recruitment, but then again they come to the East Coast also.

LA is comparatively cheaper than NYC but the rent in downtown LA and around the USC campus is reaching ridiculous proportions. Add in commuting and parking costs and the cost of living will shoot up dramatically.
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Re: Stern (no money) vs. USC Marshall (Half-ride) [#permalink] New post 03 May 2012, 00:02
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I know you said you didn't have a preference about the location, but that's really what it comes down to. If you see yourself on the West coast long-term, go with USC. If you want to be on the East coast, go with NYU.


I'll second that. And if you liked both equally, I'd go with the cheaper option. Besides, awesome weather and studying at the beach are nice perks (I'm biased since I went to USC for undergrad). :wink:
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Re: Stern (no money) vs. USC Marshall (Half-ride) [#permalink] New post 03 May 2012, 02:05
I agree, this is all about location. Would you rather drive everywhere, or take the subway everywhere? For me, when I think LA, I think traffic.
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Re: Stern (no money) vs. USC Marshall (Half-ride) [#permalink] New post 03 May 2012, 02:11
I replied in many topics that ratings don't matter, but not in that case: the schools are from two distinctive tiers, and half-ride is not as sexy as the full tuition. Therefore, if you can afford, then go to Stern.

By the way, what are your goals? That shall be the decisive factor, and not the $.
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Re: Stern (no money) vs. USC Marshall (Half-ride) [#permalink] New post 03 May 2012, 05:40
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Both are very good schools. However, given your post-MBA goal of going into the high tech industry, USC makes more sense.

If you look at NYU's employment stats: http://www.stern.nyu.edu/programs-admis ... /index.htm . NYU only places 7% of its students into "Technology/Telecommunications".

In general, Stern is a good school if you want to do finance (if you add up all the different finance categories, NYU places >70% into finance). Otherwise, it would be better to look at another school.
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Re: Stern (no money) vs. USC Marshall (Half-ride) [#permalink] New post 08 May 2012, 11:14
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Both are very good schools. However, given your post-MBA goal of going into the high tech industry, USC makes more sense.

If you look at NYU's employment stats: http://www.stern.nyu.edu/programs-admis ... /index.htm . NYU only places 7% of its students into "Technology/Telecommunications".

In general, Stern is a good school if you want to do finance (if you add up all the different finance categories, NYU places >70% into finance). Otherwise, it would be better to look at another school.


Of course, the data are only meaningful in comparison to USC. It's true that NYU places 7% in technology, but USC does only marginally better at 16%, and USC graduates in the tech industry report significantly lower compensation ($92k vs. $114k).

Stern's employer list includes Google, Groupon, Microsoft, Samsung, Sony and Zynga. It does have access to this industry, and a significant advantage in terms of salary. The lower technology industry placement at Stern reflects the preferences of its graduates as much if not more than the opportunities available to them.

In my opinion, ROI is the most important input in the decision process. Assuming you make the average starting salary at either school, you will recoup the additional $50k tuition investment in just over two years by attending Stern.

There are good arguments to be made for both schools here, but it's not as simple as west coast = tech.
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Re: Stern (no money) vs. USC Marshall (Half-ride) [#permalink] New post 08 May 2012, 19:07
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Both are very good schools. However, given your post-MBA goal of going into the high tech industry, USC makes more sense.

If you look at NYU's employment stats: http://www.stern.nyu.edu/programs-admis ... /index.htm . NYU only places 7% of its students into "Technology/Telecommunications".

In general, Stern is a good school if you want to do finance (if you add up all the different finance categories, NYU places >70% into finance). Otherwise, it would be better to look at another school.


Of course, the data are only meaningful in comparison to USC. It's true that NYU places 7% in technology, but USC does only marginally better at 16%, and USC graduates in the tech industry report significantly lower compensation ($92k vs. $114k).

Stern's employer list includes Google, Groupon, Microsoft, Samsung, Sony and Zynga. It does have access to this industry, and a significant advantage in terms of salary. The lower technology industry placement at Stern reflects the preferences of its graduates as much if not more than the opportunities available to them.

In my opinion, ROI is the most important input in the decision process. Assuming you make the average starting salary at either school, you will recoup the additional $50k tuition investment in just over two years by attending Stern.

There are good arguments to be made for both schools here, but it's not as simple as west coast = tech.


Some fair points but you can take the salary data with a big fat scoop of salt as well. Most NYU grads stay in the Northeast - 88%! (NYC in particular) and command higher salaries. Salaries on the West Coast are generally lower (we get extra sunshine in lieu of that) plus a lot of SC grads go to work for tech startups (a lot of them around here) - the starting salaries are typically lower but you usually get some equity to make up for that. It really comes down to what you want to do and where you want to do it once you are done with school.
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Re: Stern (no money) vs. USC Marshall (Half-ride) [#permalink] New post 09 May 2012, 08:42
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Some fair points but you can take the salary data with a big fat scoop of salt as well. Most NYU grads stay in the Northeast - 88%! (NYC in particular) and command higher salaries. Salaries on the West Coast are generally lower (we get extra sunshine in lieu of that) plus a lot of SC grads go to work for tech startups (a lot of them around here) - the starting salaries are typically lower but you usually get some equity to make up for that. It really comes down to what you want to do and where you want to do it once you are done with school.


I don't think that's accurate in the most general sense. First, in the case of companies like Google and Zynga, you're comparing like for like. Second, if you look at Stanford and Haas employment reports, their West Coast tech graduates are earning the same as Stern grads in that industry.

If the goal is specifically to work for a startup, I think your point may apply. They likely do pay less, and the scholarship will be a bigger factor. The OP presumably understands his own goals and if that's the case he/she would have to do the research to figure out what the salary expectations are and who offers better opportunities. Marshall may well have an advantage in that case but there is no shortage of tech startups in New York, so again I don't think it's so clear cut as the poll result implies.
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