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25 Jun 2004, 14:48
1) The students and instructors each "hope/hopes" for a new facility by next year.

2) Rice and beans, my favorite dish, "remind/reminds" me of my native Puerto Rico.

Question2 puzzled me, I have kept Question1 for contrast.
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26 Jun 2004, 02:46
hi ,

Q1--> each hope... cos here the students and the instructors both are plural and hence the use of hope...

Q2-->rice and BEANS, my favorite REMINDS me .....

cos here the subject that comes later in the liNe will define the verb to be .... and BEANS is here singular and so REMINDS...

hope that hlps!

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26 Jun 2004, 06:02
Q1) I would chose "each hope" as my answer, although "each" is attached. Usually when he have an "each, everybody, anybody" it is treated as a singular. This is when they act as an indefinite pronoun like;
"Each of the furrows has been seeded."
However, in this I think that pronoun's antecedent is fairly definite.

Q2) Rice and beans should be treated in singular mode as it refers to a single dish.

Please correct me if i am wrong on the first one.
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26 Jun 2004, 23:46
Maneesh yours interpretation is correct. I just had the confusion from "Rice and Beans", this is not a compound subject but should be treated as a single subject, that is the catch. Thanks.
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27 Jun 2004, 00:27
Maneesh wrote:
Q1) I would chose "each hope" as my answer, although "each" is attached. Usually when he have an "each, everybody, anybody" it is treated as a singular. This is when they act as an indefinite pronoun like;
"Each of the furrows has been seeded."
However, in this I think that pronoun's antecedent is fairly definite.

Q2) Rice and beans should be treated in singular mode as it refers to a single dish.

Please correct me if i am wrong on the first one.

I think it should be "each hopes"

the verb following each should correspond to a singular subject...

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27 Jun 2004, 00:32
I think 1 is "hopes" and 2 is "reminds"
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27 Jun 2004, 00:46
Alright, answer for 1 should be "hope". What does "each" refer to? "The students and instructors" as two distinct plural entities. Hence, answer should be "hope".
If question were:
The student and instructor each "hope/hopes" for a new facility by next year

Then answer should be "hopes" because each referent is singular.

2- Agree with consensus on this one. "reminds" it is
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27 Jun 2004, 01:01
Paul, I guess if the question was
The student and instructor each "hope/hopes" for a new facility by next year.

The answer would still be "hope" cause here "student and instructor" is a compound subject and hence calls for the use of "hope". Correct me please.
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27 Jun 2004, 01:14
tapsemi wrote:
Paul, I guess if the question was
The student and instructor each "hope/hopes" for a new facility by next year.

The answer would still be "hope" cause here "student and instructor" is a compound subject and hence calls for the use of "hope". Correct me please.

You are right tapsemi. I wrote that one too hastily without double-checking. Yes, "student and instructor" would be a compound subject and "hope" would have been correct. Now, THAT should have been the question for you to post as it seems trickier
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27 Jun 2004, 08:07
If you are using "student and instructor" as a compound subject, then why use "each" unless you want to refer to only one of them??

"X and Y" and "X and Y each" are not the same.

Now we have 4 variations. I tried using is/are to make understanding better.

The student and instructor, are planning to go to
The student and instructor,each is planning to go to
The students and instructors,are planning to ......
The students and instructors,each are planning to ......

So hope/hopes should be used as below.

The student and instructor, hope to ....
The student and instructor,each hopes
The students and instructors,hope
The students and instructors,each hope

"hope" that clears things

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27 Jun 2004, 18:54
Hmm, thx ashkg. I kept swinging left and right on that one. Thanks for clarifying.
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27 Jun 2004, 19:27
I just want to add that "Rice and beans" is a kind of meal or dish. therefore, it is singular. So the answer will be:

Rice and beans, my favorite dish, reminds me of my native Puerto Rico.
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28 Jun 2004, 04:04

The student and instructor, hope to ....
The student and instructor,each hopes
The students and instructors,hope
The students and instructors,each hope

for second choice
The student and instructor,each hopes
It should be "hope" and not "hopes"
Had the sentence been: "Each of the student and instructor hopes" then it would have been right.
But here "each" is after "student and instructor" hence you need plural [hope] and not hopes [singular]
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28 Jun 2004, 12:09
hope
reminds

Which reminds me that I should be hopeful for GMAT. I am totally confused after reading this thread.

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29 Jun 2004, 07:21
Guys

it depends on whether the compound subject acts as a group or two seperate things

Rice and Beans is a dish. its referenced as a group. it has to be singular.

Students and instructors are referenced seperately (note the use of word each) , thats why the subject is plural.
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29 Jun 2004, 07:36
Praetorian wrote:
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Students and instructors are referenced seperately (note the use of word each) , thats why the subject is plural.

mba,

I hope the quote should clarify my stance. "each" makes reference to one of the part of the compound subject.

If you use each, you can't reference the whole compound subject as one.

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29 Jun 2004, 12:14
concur with ash...and Bhai too!!!

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27 Jan 2013, 23:18
totally agree with ashkg
but how about the situation when each refers to one singular part and one plural part...

i.e

The students and instructor each hope/hopes for a new facility by next year.
the student and instructors each hope/hopes for a new facility by next year.
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