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Test -15, Q 6 Advertisement: For sinus pain, three out of [#permalink] New post 27 Mar 2009, 08:23
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Test -15, Q 6

Advertisement: For sinus pain, three out of four hospitals give their patients Novex. So when you want the most effective painkiller for sinus pain, Novex is the one to choose.
Which of the following, if true, most seriously undermines the advertisement’s argument?
(A) Some competing brands of painkillers are intended to reduce other kinds of pain in addition to sinus pain.
(B) Many hospitals that do not usually use Novex will do so for those patients who cannot tolerate the drug the hospitals usually use.
(C) Many drug manufacturers increase sales of their products to hospitals by selling these products to the hospitals at the lowest price the manufacturers can afford.
(D) Unlike some competing brands of painkillers, Novex is available from pharmacies without a doctor’s prescription.
(E) In clinical trials Novex has been found more effective than competing brands of painkillers that have been on the market longer than Novex.
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Re: 1000 CR --- sinus pain [#permalink] New post 27 Mar 2009, 09:13
IMO C

C states that Novex is given to patient not for effectiveness but for availability at lowest price.
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Re: 1000 CR --- sinus pain [#permalink] New post 28 Mar 2009, 08:29
OA is not C ... I will some more time to post the OA.


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Re: 1000 CR --- sinus pain [#permalink] New post 28 Mar 2009, 08:54
of other choices, D and E are clearly out of context.

(C) Many drug manufacturers increase sales of their products to hospitals by selling these products to the hospitals at the lowest price the manufacturers can afford.
- OK IMO
(D) Unlike some competing brands of painkillers, Novex is available from pharmacies without a doctor’s prescription.
- pharmacies are OOS because we are more concerned about "why hospitals" provides NOVEX to patients.
(E) In clinical trials Novex has been found more effective than competing brands of painkillers that have been on the market longer than Novex.
- Strengthen the conclusion.

B or A could be on race but they need lots of other asumptions. Do you have OE?
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Re: 1000 CR --- sinus pain [#permalink] New post 28 Mar 2009, 09:26
(A) Some competing brands of painkillers are intended to reduce other kinds of pain in addition to sinus pain. - this could be the answer since it mentions something against the argument
(B) Many hospitals that do not usually use Novex will do so for those patients who cannot tolerate the drug the hospitals usually use. - strengthens the argument
(C) Many drug manufacturers increase sales of their products to hospitals by selling these products to the hospitals at the lowest price the manufacturers can afford. - doesn't specifically mention Novex
(D) Unlike some competing brands of painkillers, Novex is available from pharmacies without a doctor’s prescription. - not relevant
(E) In clinical trials Novex has been found more effective than competing brands of painkillers that have been on the market longer than Novex. - strengthens the argument

Answer is A. What is the OA?
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Re: 1000 CR --- sinus pain [#permalink] New post 22 Apr 2009, 21:52
IMO B

Advertisement: For sinus pain, three out of four hospitals give their patients Novex. So when you want the most effective painkiller for sinus pain, Novex is the one to choose.
Which of the following, if true, most seriously undermines the advertisement’s argument?
(A) Some competing brands of painkillers are intended to reduce other kinds of pain in addition to sinus pain --> in fact, this is a strengthen. Because other competing brands want to reduce other kinds of pain, then Novex will be more likely to become the most effective painkiller drug of many kinds of pain
(B) Many hospitals that do not usually use Novex will do so for those patients who cannot tolerate the drug the hospitals usually use --> Because many hospitals do not use Novex, so it is not the most effective drug for painkiller. But because many patients can't tolerate Novex, those hospitals must use Novex as a alternative way to treat their pains. So it weakens the conclusion that Novex is used because by many hospitals because it is the most effective painkiller drug
(C) Many drug manufacturers increase sales of their products to hospitals by selling these products to the hospitals at the lowest price the manufacturers can afford --> irrelevant to the effectiveness of the drugs and too general
(D) Unlike some competing brands of painkillers, Novex is available from pharmacies without a doctor’s prescription --> irrelevant. If so, then what ?
(E) In clinical trials Novex has been found more effective than competing brands of painkillers that have been on the market longer than Novex --> strengthen
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Re: 1000 CR --- sinus pain [#permalink] New post 22 Apr 2009, 22:04
B

Hospitals reccommend Novex because their favorite, most effective one has adverse affects. So Novex is not the most effective.
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Re: 1000 CR --- sinus pain [#permalink] New post 23 Apr 2009, 00:44
I think the QA is B.

Advertisement: For sinus pain, three out of four hospitals give their patients Novex. So when you want the most effective painkiller for sinus pain, Novex is the one to choose.
Which of the following, if true, most seriously undermines the advertisement’s argument?
(A) Some competing brands of painkillers are intended to reduce other kinds of pain in addition to sinus pain.--[color=#FF0000][/color[color=#FF0000][/color]. It's irrelevant. The fact that some competing brands of painkillers are intended to reduce other kinds is not affect to becoming the most painkiller for sinus pain of Novex.
(B) Many hospitals that do not usually use Novex will do so for those patients who cannot tolerate the drug the hospitals usually use.--It's correct because three of four hospitals probably to be three of many hospitals, which is forced to use Novex for patients-not because of Novex's abilities
(C) Many drug manufacturers increase sales of their products to hospitals by selling these products to the hospitals at the lowest price the manufacturers can afford.--Selling at the lowest price is approval to Novex
(D) Unlike some competing brands of painkillers, Novex is available from pharmacies without a doctor’s prescription.--It's Novex's advantages again
(E) In clinical trials Novex has been found more effective than competing brands of painkillers that have been on the market longer than Novex.--Approval for Novex

Hey ugimba, give us the answer,please!
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Re: 1000 CR --- sinus pain [#permalink] New post 23 Apr 2009, 03:51
I think B strenghtens the argument, but C undermines it.Hospital can select Novex, because it is the cheapest and not the best.
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Re: 1000 CR --- sinus pain [#permalink] New post 23 Apr 2009, 05:23
In my opinion, B

This provides an alternate explanation for why hospitals use the drug besides the effectiveness. 3 of 4 choose it because they have to use it, not because they want to use it since there is another more effective alternative.

A says nothing about Novex, outside of scope
C is too broad, if it said something specifically about Novex it might have been appropriate.
D doesn't matter because we are not talking about over the counter, we're talking about in hospitals.
E is actually strengthener
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Re: 1000 CR --- sinus pain [#permalink] New post 23 Apr 2009, 08:02
this is one of the LSAT CR 1000 ques. The OA is C.
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Re: 1000 CR --- sinus pain [#permalink] New post 27 Apr 2009, 18:26
Why is it not B ? I am still confused , can someone please explain , i thought its B
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Re: 1000 CR --- sinus pain [#permalink] New post 28 Apr 2009, 07:55
B and C are the contenders in my opinion.

I chose C, but it can be seen as too broad.

B gives an alternative reason, which is attractive.

Check out this post:
cr-i-dont-agree-with-oa-please-post-explanations-61320.html#p444074
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Re: 1000 CR --- sinus pain [#permalink] New post 28 Apr 2009, 09:50
ugimba wrote:
OA is not C ... I will some more time to post the OA.


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I thought this looked familiar...this IS in OG 11 on page 470 and OA is C

darnit! missed this one again!
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Re: 1000 CR --- sinus pain [#permalink] New post 13 May 2009, 06:53
I went for C

The argument says 3 out of 4 hospitals use novex.

If C is true. This give the the reason behind the usage and clearly undermines the argument.

(C) Many drug manufacturers increase sales of their products to hospitals by selling these products to the hospitals at the lowest price the manufacturers can afford.
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Re: 1000 CR --- sinus pain [#permalink] New post 14 May 2009, 20:27
The argument is

X:(Novex is the most effective) ==> Y:(Why hospitals use it)

This is a classic Cause & Effect argument. The most obvious attack on this argument is
to think of another reason as to why hospitals use it.

For example,

Perhaps that's the only drug those hospitals can purchase (with the fourth one having a wide selection)?
Perhaps it's the cheapest, which would imply Cost is the main reason hospitals prescribe it.
Perhaps there is a Ninja with an AK47 who's hijacked 75% of hospitals nationwide, and he believes prescribing Novex will prevent the Apocalypse? Then it would be the Ninja's delusions... not the effectiveness of Novex.
And the list goes on.

A quick scan through the answer choices reveals that only C provides another reason why the hospitals use Novex, and it's pretty clear why (it's cheaper).

Final Answer, C.
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Re: 1000 CR --- sinus pain [#permalink] New post 14 May 2009, 20:30
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That's not the right way to do CR (generally, on the harder ones yes). For most CR's you should try to recognize the type of CR, and try to think of the answer before looking at the answer choices.
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Re: 1000 CR --- sinus pain [#permalink] New post 21 May 2009, 08:23
In another 1000_CR copy, I got the OA D!!
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Re: 1000 CR --- sinus pain [#permalink] New post 21 May 2009, 10:02
I'll vote for D...I remember seeing a similar quesion somewhere in OG....
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Re: 1000 CR --- sinus pain [#permalink] New post 21 May 2009, 10:23
Be very careful when seeing 'OA's posted in forums, a lot of them are wrong for a multitude of reasons.

In this case OA is C.
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