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The attribution of the choral work Lacrime to the composer [#permalink] New post 29 Jan 2013, 11:45
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The attribution of the choral work Lacrime to the composer Pescard (1400-1474) has been regarded as tentative, since it was based on a single treatise from the early 1500s that named Pescard as the composer. Recently, several musical treaties from the late 1500s have come to light, all of which name Pescard as the composer of Lacrimae. Unfortunately, these newly discovered treatises lend no support to the attribution of Lacrimae to Pescard, since____________.

(A) the treatise from the early 1500s misidentifies the composers of some of the musical works it considers

(B) the author of the treatise from the early 1500s had no very strong evidence on which to base the identification Pescard as the composer of Lacrimae

(C) there are works that can conclusively be attributed to Pescard that are cultivated specifically for the seed they produce rather than for their leaves or roots not even mentioned in the treatise from the early 1500s

(D) the later treatises probably had no source for their attribution other than the earlier treatise

(E) no known treatises from the 1600s identify Pescard as the composer of Lacrimae
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Re: The attribution of the choral work Lacrime [#permalink] New post 29 Jan 2013, 12:34
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I like this question

You have to concentrate on what the argument stress more: the work in the later stage; in other words, on work at the end of the 1600

(A) the treatise from the early 1500s misidentifies the composers of some of the musical works it considers

(B) the author of the treatise from the early 1500s had no very strong evidence on which to base the identification Pescard as the composer of Lacrimae

(C) there are works that can conclusively be attributed to Pescard that are cultivated specifically for the seed they produce rather than for their leaves or roots not even mentioned in the treatise from the early 1500s

(D) the later treatises probably had no source for their attribution other than the earlier treatise

(E) no known treatises from the 1600s identify Pescard as the composer of Lacrimae

D must be the answer.

Keep in mind the in this such questions whenever you see since at the end usually the question is: or a strenghten question or an assumtpion question

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Re: The attribution of the choral work Lacrime to the composer [#permalink] New post 14 Apr 2013, 10:25
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The attribution of the choral work Lacrime to the composer Pescard (1400-1474) has been regarded as tentative, since it was based on a single treatise from the early 1500s that named Pescard as the composer. Recently, several musical treaties from the late 1500s have come to light, all of which name Pescard as the composer of Lacrimae. Unfortunately, these newly discovered treatises lend no support to the attribution of Lacrimae to Pescard, since____________.

(A) the treatise from the early 1500s misidentifies the composers of some of the musical works it considers

(B) the author of the treatise from the early 1500s had no very strong evidence on which to base the identification Pescard as the composer of Lacrimae

(C) there are works that can conclusively be attributed to Pescard that are cultivated specifically for the seed they produce rather than for their leaves or roots not even mentioned in the treatise from the early 1500s

(D) the later treatises probably had no source for their attribution other than the earlier treatise

(E) no known treatises from the 1600s identify Pescard as the composer of Lacrimae


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Re: The attribution of the choral work Lacrime to the composer [#permalink] New post 14 Apr 2013, 15:19
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The attribution of the choral work Lacrime to the composer Pescard (1400-1474) has been regarded as tentative, since it was based on a single treatise from the early 1500s that named Pescard as the composer. Recently, several musical treaties from the late 1500s have come to light, all of which name Pescard as the composer of Lacrimae. Unfortunately, these newly discovered treatises lend no support to the attribution of Lacrimae to Pescard, since____________.

(A) the treatise from the early 1500s misidentifies the composers of some of the musical works it considers

(B) the author of the treatise from the early 1500s had no very strong evidence on which to base the identification Pescard as the composer of Lacrimae

(C) there are works that can conclusively be attributed to Pescard that are cultivated specifically for the seed they produce rather than for their leaves or roots not even mentioned in the treatise from the early 1500s

(D) the later treatises probably had no source for their attribution other than the earlier treatise

(E) no known treatises from the 1600s identify Pescard as the composer of Lacrimae


I picked B.Why D is correct?Need detail explanation


I must say tough question. D is correct.

This is FLAW OF REASONING question. This is not weaken question. The basic difference between the two is that Weaken questions accept "New" information, but Flaw questions do not. In flaw question, you mus base solely on Fact.

ANALYSIS:
Premise: a single treatise from the early 1500s that named Pescard as the composer.
Premise: Recently, several musical treaties from the late 1500s name Pescard as the composer of Lacrimae
Sub-conclusion: The attribution of the choral work Lacrime to the composer Pescard (1400-1474) has been regarded as tentative.

Main-Conclusion: newly discovered treatises lend no support to the attribution of Lacrimae to Pescard

Why? what if the later treatises and earlier treaties used the SAME source for their attribution. It means the contribution of the later treaties is the same as that of earlier treaties. The later does not provide more evidences to support the sub-conclusion. That's why the sub-conclusion fails.

D clearly states that.

@Mun23:
Why D is correct? You can refer to my explanation above.
Why B is wrong?
B says: "the author of the treatise from the early 1500s had no very strong evidence on which to base the identification Pescard as the composer of Lacrimae".
"No very strong" does not mean "weak" evidence. Moreover, if the later treaties used different source for their contribution, even stronger evidences, the sub-conclusion is still correct.

Hope it helps you a little bit.
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Re: The attribution of the choral work Lacrime to the composer [#permalink] New post 14 Apr 2013, 22:05
Two main parts of the paragraphs are:
Argument Part1: Attribution of the choral work Lacrime to the composer Pescard (1400-1474) has been regarded as tentative
Reason: It was based on a single treatise from the early 1500s that named Pescard as the composer

Argument Part2: several musical treaties from the late 1500s have come to light, all of which name Pescard as the composer of Lacrimae.
However these newly discovered treatises lend no support to the attribution of Lacrimae to Pescard.
Reason: ?
Only option D is able to relate the early 1500 and late 1500 treaties in a way which can be used as a reason for argument part2

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Re: The attribution of the choral work Lacrime to the composer [#permalink] New post 14 Apr 2013, 22:09
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CharuKapoor wrote:
The attribution of the choral work Lacrime to the composer Pescard (1400-1474) has been regarded as tentative, since it was based on a single treatise from the early 1500s that named Pescard as the composer. Recently, several musical treaties from the late 1500s have come to light, all of which name Pescard as the composer of Lacrimae. Unfortunately, these newly discovered treatises lend no support to the attribution of Lacrimae to Pescard, since____________.

(A) the treatise from the early 1500s misidentifies the composers of some of the musical works it considers

(B) the author of the treatise from the early 1500s had no very strong evidence on which to base the identification Pescard as the composer of Lacrimae

(C) there are works that can conclusively be attributed to Pescard that are cultivated specifically for the seed they produce rather than for their leaves or roots not even mentioned in the treatise from the early 1500s

(D) the later treatises probably had no source for their attribution other than the earlier treatise

(E) no known treatises from the 1600s identify Pescard as the composer of Lacrimae


I picked B.Why D is correct?Need detail explanation



Two main parts of the paragraphs are:
Argument Part1: Attribution of the choral work Lacrime to the composer Pescard (1400-1474) has been regarded as tentative
Reason: It was based on a single treatise from the early 1500s that named Pescard as the composer

Argument Part2: several musical treaties from the late 1500s have come to light, all of which name Pescard as the composer of Lacrimae.
However these newly discovered treatises lend no support to the attribution of Lacrimae to Pescard.
Reason: ?
Even if you select B as answer, it doesn’t account for the argument part2 that why musical tyreaties from late 1500 cant be use to ascertain the attribution of Lacrimae to Pescard
Only option D is able to relate the early 1500 and late 1500 treaties in a way which can be used as a reason for argument part2

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Re: The attribution of the choral work Lacrime to the composer [#permalink] New post 17 Sep 2013, 22:04
ssbisht wrote:
mun23 wrote:
CharuKapoor wrote:
The attribution of the choral work Lacrime to the composer Pescard (1400-1474) has been regarded as tentative, since it was based on a single treatise from the early 1500s that named Pescard as the composer. Recently, several musical treaties from the late 1500s have come to light, all of which name Pescard as the composer of Lacrimae. Unfortunately, these newly discovered treatises lend no support to the attribution of Lacrimae to Pescard, since____________.

(A) the treatise from the early 1500s misidentifies the composers of some of the musical works it considers

(B) the author of the treatise from the early 1500s had no very strong evidence on which to base the identification Pescard as the composer of Lacrimae

(C) there are works that can conclusively be attributed to Pescard that are cultivated specifically for the seed they produce rather than for their leaves or roots not even mentioned in the treatise from the early 1500s

(D) the later treatises probably had no source for their attribution other than the earlier treatise

(E) no known treatises from the 1600s identify Pescard as the composer of Lacrimae


I picked B.Why D is correct?Need detail explanation



Two main parts of the paragraphs are:
Argument Part1: Attribution of the choral work Lacrime to the composer Pescard (1400-1474) has been regarded as tentative
Reason: It was based on a single treatise from the early 1500s that named Pescard as the composer

Argument Part2: several musical treaties from the late 1500s have come to light, all of which name Pescard as the composer of Lacrimae.
However these newly discovered treatises lend no support to the attribution of Lacrimae to Pescard.
Reason: ?
Even if you select B as answer, it doesn’t account for the argument part2 that why musical tyreaties from late 1500 cant be use to ascertain the attribution of Lacrimae to Pescard
Only option D is able to relate the early 1500 and late 1500 treaties in a way which can be used as a reason for argument part2

Thanks,
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Hi ssbisht,

Can you elaborate the POE because as what you have stated in RED I have query about it.

Somehow I am unable to get the RED part itself.

Initially it says that late 1500's treaties name X as composer of Y.
And then these treaties lend no support in attribution of Y to X.

Please advise !
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Re: The attribution of the choral work Lacrime to the composer [#permalink] New post 17 Sep 2013, 23:13
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ssbisht wrote:

Two main parts of the paragraphs are:
Argument Part1: Attribution of the choral work Lacrime to the composer Pescard (1400-1474) has been regarded as tentative
Reason: It was based on a single treatise from the early 1500s that named Pescard as the composer

Argument Part2: several musical treaties from the late 1500s have come to light, all of which name Pescard as the composer of Lacrimae.
However these newly discovered treatises lend no support to the attribution of Lacrimae to Pescard.
Reason: ?
Even if you select B as answer, it doesn’t account for the argument part2 that why musical tyreaties from late 1500 cant be use to ascertain the attribution of Lacrimae to Pescard
Only option D is able to relate the early 1500 and late 1500 treaties in a way which can be used as a reason for argument part2

Thanks,
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Hi ssbisht,

Can you elaborate the POE because as what you have stated in RED I have query about it.

Somehow I am unable to get the RED part itself.

Initially it says that late 1500's treaties name X as composer of Y.
And then these treaties lend no support in attribution of Y to X.

Please advise !


Let me try.

Two main parts of the paragraphs are:
Argument Part1: Attribution of the choral work Lacrime to the composer Pescard (1400-1474) has been regarded as tentative
Reason: It was based on a single treatise from the early 1500s that named Pescard as the composer

Argument Part2: several musical treaties from the late 1500s have come to light, all of which name Pescard as the composer of Lacrimae.
However these newly discovered treatises lend no support to the attribution of Lacrimae to Pescard.
Reason: ?

Go with the flow of argument, First the author says the attribution is tentative because it was based on a single treaty from the early 1500s. Then, he went on to state that several treaties came up in the late 1500s supporting the attribution. But, Unfortunately, so the author is not again convinced with these several treaties that came up in the late 1500s.

Reason: These late treaties don't have sufficient evidences or they are based on the assumptions/source/info from the earlier treaty.

D: says exactly the same
B: does not give an explanation as to why the author is not convinced with the several treaties that came up in the late 1500s

Hope it helps.
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