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Hi Karishma,

Correct me if I'm wrong, 73 + 169 + 169 + 169 + 173 ≠ 750 :? :?
Also 127 + 131 + 131 + 131 + 227 ≠ 750 :?: :?:

≠ is not-equal

Does anyone even check these solutions :cry: :cry:


Note that you are not bothered about the value of b above as long as it is in the range. You can adjust it according to a and a+100 to bring the total to 750. All we care about is the possible number of values of a (which will be the same as the possible number of values of b).
I have edited the post above to show the desired adjustment to the value of b to balance out the addition.
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The average of five natural numbers is 150. A particular number among the five exceeds another by 100. The rest three numbers lie between these two numbers and they are equal. How many different values can the largest number among the five take?

(A) 59
(B) 19
(C) 21
(D) 18
(E) 42


Tricky question! Not sure if I will get this under 2 mins but here it goes.
We basically have 5 positive numbers - x, y, y, y, x+100 with sum = 750
so 2x + 3y = 650 and x<y<x+100.

Take extreme cases of inequality and we get for x=y case, 5x=650 so x = 130.
Another case, y=x+100, 5x+300 = 650. x=70. BOTH THESE CASES are not allowed since y lies between x and x+100. But these are the bounds.

Once we have that, it is only a matter of finding the allowed values of x. (650-2x) should be divisible by 3, so changes allowed in x should be only in factors of 3. Start writing numbers from 73, 76....upto 127 and we get 19!
Answer is B, but I didnt get this in under 2 minutes for sure!

Let me know if there is a faster way to solve. :D
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devmillenium2k wrote:
The average of five natural numbers is 150. A particular number among the five exceeds another by 100. The rest three numbers lie between these two numbers and they are equal. How many different values can the largest number among the five take?

(A) 59
(B) 19
(C) 21
(D) 18
(E) 42


This is not a GMAT question. GMAT doesn't use the terminology of natural numbers.

Let the 5 natural numbers in increasing order be: a, b, b, b, a+100
Note that a < b < a+100

\(\frac{(a+b+b+b+a+100)}{5} = 150\)
\(2a + 3b = 650\)

Since a < b, let's find the point where a = b
2a + 3a = 650
a = 130 = b
But b must be greater than a. If we increase b by 1, we need to decrease a by 3 to keep the average same. But that decreases the largest number too, so increase b by another 1.
So a = 127, b = 132 give us the numbers as 127, 132, 132, 132, 227

Since b < a+100, let's find the point where b = a+100
2a + 3(a+100) = 650
a = 70, b = 170
But b must be less than a+100. If we decrease b by 1, we need to increase a by 3 to keep the average same. But that increases the largest number too, so decrease b by another 1.
So a = 73, b = 168 give us the numbers as 73, 168, 168, 168, 173

Values of a will be: 73, 76, 79, ....127 (Difference of 3 to make b a natural number)
This is an AP.
Last term = First term + (n - 1)*Common difference
127 = 73 + (n - 1)*3
n = 19
So the last term (a+100) will also take 19 distinct values.

Answer (B)

*Edited


Quote:
Hi Karishma,
Do we have any shortcut method?
The entire method seems to be time-cosuming.

Please provide the logic behind the following:
“But that decreases the largest number too, so increase b by another 1.”
Thanks again!

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VeritasPrepKarishma wrote:
devmillenium2k wrote:
The average of five natural numbers is 150. A particular number among the five exceeds another by 100. The rest three numbers lie between these two numbers and they are equal. How many different values can the largest number among the five take?

(A) 59
(B) 19
(C) 21
(D) 18
(E) 42


This is not a GMAT question. GMAT doesn't use the terminology of natural numbers.

Let the 5 natural numbers in increasing order be: a, b, b, b, a+100
Note that a < b < a+100

\(\frac{(a+b+b+b+a+100)}{5} = 150\)
\(2a + 3b = 650\)

Since a < b, let's find the point where a = b
2a + 3a = 650
a = 130 = b
But b must be greater than a. If we increase b by 1, we need to decrease a by 3 to keep the average same. But that decreases the largest number too, so increase b by another 1.
So a = 127, b = 132 give us the numbers as 127, 132, 132, 132, 227

Since b < a+100, let's find the point where b = a+100
2a + 3(a+100) = 650
a = 70, b = 170
But b must be less than a+100. If we decrease b by 1, we need to increase a by 3 to keep the average same. But that increases the largest number too, so decrease b by another 1.
So a = 73, b = 168 give us the numbers as 73, 168, 168, 168, 173

Values of a will be: 73, 76, 79, ....127 (Difference of 3 to make b a natural number)
This is an AP.
Last term = First term + (n - 1)*Common difference
127 = 73 + (n - 1)*3
n = 19
So the last term (a+100) will also take 19 distinct values.

Answer (B)

*Edited


Quote:
Hi Karishma,
Do we have any shortcut method?
The entire method seems to be time-cosuming.

Please provide the logic behind the following:
“But that decreases the largest number too, so increase b by another 1.”
Thanks again!



This comes from the concept of integer solutions for equations.

Check it here: https://www.gmatclub.com/forum/veritas-prep-resource-links-no-longer-available-399979.html#/2011/06 ... -of-thumb/

You have 2a + 3b = 650
One solution: a = 70, b = 170
Next integer solution for this equation will be a = 73, b = 168
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The average of five natural numbers is 150. A particular number among [#permalink]
devmillenium2k wrote:
The average of five natural numbers is 150. A particular number among the five exceeds another by 100. The rest three numbers lie between these two numbers and they are equal. How many different values can the largest number among the five take?

(A) 59
(B) 19
(C) 21
(D) 18
(E) 42


Natural numbers are positive integers;
n=5; mean=150; sum=750; set={a,b,b,b,tn};
tn-a=100, tn=100+a;
a<b<tn.

a+3b+tn=750…a+3b+(100+a)=750…2a+3b=650
2a+3b=650…2a=650-3b…a=(650-3b)/2
a=(650-3b)/2=integer;
if 3b=odd: E-O=O…O/E≠integer; so, 3b=even…b=even;

a<b<tn: (650-3b)/2<b<(650-3b)/2+100
(650-3b)/2<b…650<2b+3b…130<b;
b<(650-3b)/2+100…2b<850-3b…b<170;
a<b<tn: 130<b<170

The different values that (a,tn) can take is the number of evens in b's range, since b=even;
So find then evens between 130 and 170:
num multiples between range = largest m(2) - smallest m(2) / 2 + 1
num multiples between range = 168 - 132 / 2 + 1 = 18 + 1 = 19

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