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The basic needs of the average cat are simple and largely inexpensive: food, water, affection, and shelter, and occasional visits to the veterinarian.

(A) and occasional visits to the veterinarian
(B) with occasional veterinarian visits
(C) with occasional visits to the veterinarian
(D) yet occasionally visiting the veterinarian
(E) but some occasional visits to the veterinarian are needed
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Re: From Kaplan 800 SC 12 page 218 [#permalink] New post 17 Jun 2012, 19:22
1. What's wrong with E?

2. How "with" in C work?
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Re: From Kaplan 800 SC 12 page 218 [#permalink] New post 17 Jun 2012, 19:31
E is wordy. Also it uses 'but' to create a sense of contrast, which is not present in the original sentence.
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Re: From Kaplan 800 SC 12 page 218 [#permalink] New post 17 Jun 2012, 19:51
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1. What's wrong with E?

2. How "with" in C work?

1) The answer here is wordy. Also, it's not clear what the "but" is contrasting with; it could be (and is, given my cats) that Veterinary visits are meant to be contrasted with the other "simple, inexpensive" requirements, but the grammar isn't correct.

2) "And" doesn't work, because the list of items ALREADY has an "and" in the part that's not underlined, and you can't have two "ands" in one list. Thus, "with!"
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Re: From Kaplan 800 SC 12 page 218 [#permalink] New post 07 Oct 2013, 11:48
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eybrj2 wrote:
1. What's wrong with E?

2. How "with" in C work?

1) The answer here is wordy. Also, it's not clear what the "but" is contrasting with; it could be (and is, given my cats) that Veterinary visits are meant to be contrasted with the other "simple, inexpensive" requirements, but the grammar isn't correct.

2) "And" doesn't work, because the list of items ALREADY has an "and" in the part that's not underlined, and you can't have two "ands" in one list. Thus, "with!"


How come we use "with" or "and" if we need to show contrast? I mean we are assuming here that visits to the vet do cost more money than water etc.. right?
Could you please shed some light here Eli?
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Re: The basic needs of the average cat are simple and largely [#permalink] New post 09 Oct 2013, 07:04
C...
meaning: cheaper cats require less items...along with( something) additional work...

E... not...but... is right idiom
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The basic needs of the average cat are simple and largely [#permalink] New post 26 Jun 2014, 09:55
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KapTeacherEli wrote:
eybrj2 wrote:
1. What's wrong with E?

2. How "with" in C work?

1) The answer here is wordy. Also, it's not clear what the "but" is contrasting with; it could be (and is, given my cats) that Veterinary visits are meant to be contrasted with the other "simple, inexpensive" requirements, but the grammar isn't correct.

2) "And" doesn't work, because the list of items ALREADY has an "and" in the part that's not underlined, and you can't have two "ands" in one list. Thus, "with!"


Eli how do we understand the so called 'intended meaning' of the author in options like these? such as in this option, he could mean that its inexpensive other than the fact that there are some occasional vetrenarian visits. as in he could potray a contrast instead of a simple plain list. right?

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Re: The basic needs of the average cat are simple and largely [#permalink] New post 26 Jun 2014, 10:40
Is there any official question testing similar concept ?

What if I consider two separate lists by considering the different nature of elements .

food, water, affection, and shelter, and occasional visits to the veterinarian.
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Re: The basic needs of the average cat are simple and largely [#permalink] New post 01 Sep 2014, 04:42
How do you differentiate between the use of "and"/ "with" in the above sentence ???
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Re: The basic needs of the average cat are simple and largely [#permalink] New post 04 Oct 2014, 01:46
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Can someone please help me with option "B". I Found it more concise and so went with "B" and not with "C"
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Re: The basic needs of the average cat are simple and largely [#permalink] New post 04 Oct 2014, 10:46
Isn't b more concise than c? how does the grammar/meaning change between b & c?
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Re: The basic needs of the average cat are simple and largely [#permalink] New post 04 Oct 2014, 11:50
I am no expert but i will explain why i selected C over B.
veterinarian visits can mean
1. Veterinarian will come to visit cat at cat's place .....dont know if cats are lazy rich pets.They dont go out to see people :)
2. Cat need to visit the veterinarian.
Sentence talks about needs of cat so the above are two different needs.

The intended meaning as in option a is " visits to the veterinarian " which is clear in C.B gives ambiguity.
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Re: The basic needs of the average cat are simple and largely [#permalink] New post 04 Oct 2014, 21:51
maybe what you are saying in correct but i am not 100% between major difference vet visiting home to see the cat or the cat being taken to vet for a visit. At the end of the day, the cat will be seen by the vet.
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Re: The basic needs of the average cat are simple and largely [#permalink] New post 25 Aug 2015, 19:59
Am I the only one that sees no problem with A?
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Re: The basic needs of the average cat are simple and largely [#permalink] New post 25 Aug 2015, 20:30
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Am I the only one that sees no problem with A?

parallel when u use "and", it means "food, water, affection, and shelter, and occasional visits "is correct
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Re: The basic needs of the average cat are simple and largely [#permalink] New post 28 Aug 2015, 20:12
this is very hard one,

with phrase in C modifies the main clause
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Re: The basic needs of the average cat are simple and largely [#permalink] New post 28 Aug 2015, 20:12
this is very hard one,

with phrase in C modifies the main clause
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Re: The basic needs of the average cat are simple and largely [#permalink] New post 28 Aug 2015, 21:20
getting confused in usage of "with"

can someone explain what is the correct usage of "with" & under where we use it more often
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Re: The basic needs of the average cat are simple and largely [#permalink] New post 28 Aug 2015, 23:33
C .
Colon after inexpensive suggests that what follows are examples .visits to veterinarian is not as inexpensive as the other examples so this is something additional so "with"...between b and c occasional wrongly modifies veterinarian ...occasional is an adjective that in this context should modify visits


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Re: The basic needs of the average cat are simple and largely [#permalink] New post 28 Aug 2015, 23:43
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The basic needs of the average cat are simple and largely inexpensive: food, water, affection, and shelter, and occasional visits to the veterinarian.

(A) and occasional visits to the veterinarian
(B) with occasional veterinarian visits
(C) with occasional visits to the veterinarian
(D) yet occasionally visiting the veterinarian
(E) but some occasional visits to the veterinarian are needed

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(A) and meat rarely
(B) and meat was rare
(C) with meat as rare
(D) meat a rarity
(E) with meat as a rarity

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