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# The company announced that its profits declined much less in

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The company announced that its profits declined much less in [#permalink]  31 May 2009, 15:20
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The company announced that its profits declined much less in the second quarter than analysts had expected it to and its business will improve in the second half of the year.

C) expected it would and that it will improve its business
D) expected them to and its business would improve
E) expected and that it will have improved its business

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Re: The company announced that its profits declined much less in [#permalink]  01 Jun 2009, 19:49
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Without seeing the spoiler I got B in first look.

The sentence is in past perfect tense, with analysts expected earlier in time and profits declined later in time.

So C, D, and E are out. Now the choice is between A and B.

A is incorrect because of no clear antecedents (precedent) of pronoun "it". [Thanks Allen for correcting me that pronoun have antecedent and not precedent..........]

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Re: The company announced that its profits declined much less in [#permalink]  01 Jun 2009, 20:01
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I think humans' explanation is great.

I think the antecedent of "it" in answer A is clear, but "it" is singular when the sentence is refering to "profits" which is plural. I think this is an error that is easier to notice. This same reason also means C is wrong. D seems awkward like "them to" is unnecessary. It's certainly implied, but I think we need "had expected" for past tense (past perfect?).

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The company announced that its profits declined much less in the second quarter than analysts had expected it to and its business will improve in the second half of the year.

C) expected it would and that it will improve its business
D) expected them to and its business would improve
E) expected and that it will have improved its business

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Re: The company announced that its profits declined much less in [#permalink]  09 Jun 2010, 05:19
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The company announced that its profits declined much less in the second quarter than analysts had expected it to and its business will improve in the second half of the year.

C) expected it would and that it will improve its business
D) expected them to and its business would improve
E) expected and that it will have improved its business

[Reveal] Spoiler:
OG=B

Hi Guys,

There are some other important issues to take note of here!

1. Ellipsis: In A, "had expected it to" implies the word "decline," but "decline" is not in the sentence-- "declined" is! It's perfectly alright to leave a word out, as long as that exact same word appears somewhere else in the sentence!

Ex. CORRECT:Joe's shoes are nicer than Bob's (shoes). The last word is optional because "shoes" already appears.
Ex. CORRECT:Joe is taller than Bob (is). The last word is optional because "is" already appears.
Ex. INCORRECT: Joe has and always will be confident. The word "been" is missing! You cannot imply a word that never appears in the sentence!! This is considered an error in ellipsis.

2. The phrase of parallelism here is "A and B", meaning that "and" must connect between two words/phrases of the same grammatical structure. In this case A is the relative clause, "that its profits declined... So B must also be a relative clause!! "that+a subject+a verb..." Any answer that failed to put "that" after the "and" can be eliminated!!! This is tested a lot on the SC!!!

3. Why "would" and not "will"?
This is a matter of reported speech.
A direct quote would be this: The company announced, "Our business will improve..."
Reported speech pulls the tense back: The company announced that its business would improve...
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Re: The company announced that its profits declined much less in [#permalink]  02 Jun 2009, 03:43
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I just noticed parallelism too which really narrows it down:

The company announced that its profits declined much less in the second quarter than analysts had expected it to and its business will improve in the second half of the year.

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Re: The company announced that its profits declined much less in [#permalink]  05 Mar 2010, 14:23
This site gives decent examples on when and why this case is used: http://www.ego4u.com/en/cram-up/grammar/simpas-pasper
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Re: The company announced that its profits declined much less in [#permalink]  09 Jun 2010, 02:13
Simple B. Had is needed to explain that 'expected' occurred before actual decline. And past tense of will is would
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Re: The company announced that its profits declined much less in [#permalink]  09 Jun 2010, 05:33
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The company announced that its profits declined much less in the second quarter than analysts had expected it to and its business will improve in the second half of the year.

C) expected it would and that it will improve its business
D) expected them to and its business would improve
E) expected and that it will have improved its business

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checking for parallelism.

company announced that .... and that.......

So only B and C. left.

C violates the SV agreement. it cannot refer to plural "profits"

B it is.
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Re: The company announced that its profits declined much less in [#permalink]  09 May 2012, 09:12
We can eliminate C,D and E by using following principle.

Past sentence should be followed with past perfect tense.(In above situation- Company announced is past sentence and it should be followed "had expected")

And A is wrong since "had expected it" is makes wrong because of unnecessary use of "it".

Last Left B which is correct

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Re: The company announced that its profits declined much less in [#permalink]  12 Sep 2013, 06:24
I3igDmsu wrote:
The company announced that its profits declined much less in the second quarter than analysts had expected it to and its business will improve in the second half of the year.

C) expected it would and that it will improve its business
D) expected them to and its business would improve
E) expected and that it will have improved its business

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OG=B

Two past events one preceded the other, Analysists must have predicted it earlier than the actual event. So the usage of past perfect "had" is correct.

Now there prediction that the business will improve must be followed by would and not will...To show the uncertainity of the event..

Hence B
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Re: The company announced that its profits declined much less in [#permalink]  29 Jan 2014, 20:39
The company announced that its profits declined much less in the second quarter than analysts had expected it to and its business will improve in the second half of the year.

C )expected it would and that it will improve its business
D )expected them to and its business would improve
E) expected and that it will have improved its business

Hi.

(1) When I solved the question, I did not think that "would" or "will" is important because from the context I cannot determine whether "the second half of the year" passed.

However, some people say that "would", if used to express uncertainty, can only exist in sentence that has the structure "if X, then Y" or structures that indicate hypothesis. Is it correct?

If not, can "would" express uncertainty in the sentence?
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(2) In choice C, I overlooked an error that "it" does not match "profits", but I still eliminate the choice because "analysts expected" is wrong tense and because "X is more adj than analysts expected" is enough to convey intended meaning.

So, is "X is more adj than analysts expected X would" redundant?

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Re: The company announced that its profits declined much less in [#permalink]  29 Jan 2014, 22:57
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The company announced that its profits declined much less in the second quarter than analysts had expected it to and its business will improve in the second half of the year.

C )expected it would and that it will improve its business
D )expected them to and its business would improve
E) expected and that it will have improved its business

Hi.

(1) When I solved the question, I did not think that "would" or "will" is important because from the context I cannot determine whether "the second half of the year" passed.

However, some people say that "would", if used to express uncertainty, can only exist in sentence that has the structure "if X, then Y" or structures that indicate hypothesis. Is it correct?

If not, can "would" express uncertainty in the sentence?
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(2) In choice C, I overlooked an error that "it" does not match "profits", but I still eliminate the choice because "analysts expected" is wrong tense and because "X is more adj than analysts expected" is enough to convey intended meaning.

So, is "X is more adj than analysts expected X would" redundant?

Thank you.

Hi phammanhhiep,

Is the OA b? Thats the only one which seems correct at all..If yes, I can explain the logic
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Re: The company announced that its profits declined much less in [#permalink]  30 Jan 2014, 01:08
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phammanhhiep wrote:
The company announced that its profits declined much less in the second quarter than analysts had expected it to and its business will improve in the second half of the year.

C )expected it would and that it will improve its business
D )expected them to and its business would improve
E) expected and that it will have improved its business

Hi.

(1) When I solved the question, I did not think that "would" or "will" is important because from the context I cannot determine whether "the second half of the year" passed.

However, some people say that "would", if used to express uncertainty, can only exist in sentence that has the structure "if X, then Y" or structures that indicate hypothesis. Is it correct?

If not, can "would" express uncertainty in the sentence?
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(2) In choice C, I overlooked an error that "it" does not match "profits", but I still eliminate the choice because "analysts expected" is wrong tense and because "X is more adj than analysts expected" is enough to convey intended meaning.

So, is "X is more adj than analysts expected X would" redundant?

Thank you.

Hi phammanhhiep,

Is the OA b? Thats the only one which seems correct at all..If yes, I can explain the logic

I'm not sure whether or not you had trouble with the first split so I'll start from there. AB/CDE
The first split is pretty easy to solve once you understand the meaning of the statement. Only the past perfect works for the underlined portion of the question as you have to specify that the "analysts had expected" came before the company's announcement so CDE are out.

Between A and B, the split is between had expected it/had expected and will/would. It can't be it because it must refer to profits (which are plural) however it is singular. If you didn't catch that, you could move onto the second split and figure out that since expect = subjunctive, would is the proper conjugation thus eliminating A.
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Re: The company announced that its profits declined much less in [#permalink]  24 Feb 2015, 01:11
Parallelism in B wins. In addition, "announced" is in the past, so will should be would.
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Re: The company announced that its profits declined much less in [#permalink]  18 May 2015, 23:05
I3igDmsu wrote:
The company announced that its profits declined much less in the second quarter than analysts had expected it to and its business will improve in the second half of the year.

C) expected it would and that it will improve its business
D) expected them to and its business would improve
E) expected and that it will have improved its business

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Past perfect tense is correctly used to showcase different actions at different time zones.
1. Analysts expected (use past perfect)
2. Company announced (use simple past)
Hence, eliminate options C, D & E.

Use of will vs. Would – (meaning is important)
Will shows certainty whereas would indicates possibility. In given context Use of would is right.

that its profit ..... and that its business would ....

Option B is the correct answer.
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