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The diet of the ordinary Greek in classical times was [#permalink] New post 20 Apr 2010, 16:59
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The diet of the ordinary Greek in classical times was largely vegetarian—vegetables, fresh cheese, oatmeal, and meal cakes, and meat rarely.

(A) and meat rarely
(B) and meat was rare
(C) with meat as rare
(D) meat a rarity
(E) with meat as a rarity

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Re: Diet of Ordinary Greek [#permalink] New post 20 Apr 2010, 17:30
manoharpln wrote:
The diet of the ordinary Greek in classical times was largely vegetarian—vegetables, fresh cheese, oatmeal, and meal cakes, and meat rarely.

(A) and meat rarely
(B) and meat was rare
(C) with meat as rare
(D) meat a rarity
(E) with meat as a rarity

OA:
[Reveal] Spoiler:
D


Double-check the answer. My book says E
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Re: Diet of Ordinary Greek [#permalink] New post 21 Apr 2010, 00:56
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manoharpln wrote:
The diet of the ordinary Greek in classical times was largely vegetarian—vegetables, fresh cheese, oatmeal, and meal cakes, and meat rarely.

(A) and meat rarely
(B) and meat was rare
(C) with meat as rare
(D) meat a rarity
(E) with meat as a rarity

OA:
[Reveal] Spoiler:
E


Double-check the answer. My book says E


Thanks for correcting....It is E..
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Re: Diet of Ordinary Greek [#permalink] New post 21 Apr 2010, 07:47
I remember seeing the question before. What's the source. I'd be interested in the explanation.
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Re: Diet of Ordinary Greek [#permalink] New post 21 Apr 2010, 09:01
The source is OG 10 and 1000SC...
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Re: Diet of Ordinary Greek [#permalink] New post 22 Apr 2010, 19:11
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Hey All,

No one bothered to explain this one on here, so I figured I'd weigh in, since it's a quick one.

The diet of the ordinary Greek in classical times was largely vegetarian—vegetables, fresh cheese, oatmeal, and meal cakes, and meat rarely.

Obviously, this is a parallelism issue. Every list needs to have "and" at the end. You can't use "and" twice, unless the second to last item in the list is a compound. For example: "I like all kinds of sandwiches: reuben, turkey, pastrami, peanut butter and jelly, and veggie." But in that case, there are two nouns in that second to last entry (peanut butter and jelly). We don't have that here, so there's no justification for having two "and"s.

(A) and meat rarely
PROBLEM: No and allowed.

(B) and meat was rare
PROBLEM: Again.

(C) with meat as rare
PROBLEM: You can't just say "meat as rare". As sets up either a comparison ("meat as rare as an uncooked log.") or some type of prepositional phrase ("meat as metaphor for life...").

(D) meat a rarity
PROBLEM: We need some segue from the last item in the list.

(E) with meat as a rarity
ANSWER: We get the prepositional phrase. It's a bit odd, since it's modifying something that came a long time ago, but it's still the best choice.

Hope that helps!

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Re: Diet of Ordinary Greek [#permalink] New post 23 Apr 2010, 01:34
Another gr8 explanation by Tommy
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Re: Diet of Ordinary Greek [#permalink] New post 07 May 2010, 00:39
Tommy,

I think there a list can have OR or AND in the end and not just AND as per your opinion. If there is list of options to choose from then OR is correct.

Please check.

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Hey All,

No one bothered to explain this one on here, so I figured I'd weigh in, since it's a quick one.

The diet of the ordinary Greek in classical times was largely vegetarian—vegetables, fresh cheese, oatmeal, and meal cakes, and meat rarely.

Obviously, this is a parallelism issue. Every list needs to have "and" at the end. You can't use "and" twice, unless the second to last item in the list is a compound. For example: "I like all kinds of sandwiches: reuben, turkey, pastrami, peanut butter and jelly, and veggie." But in that case, there are two nouns in that second to last entry (peanut butter and jelly). We don't have that here, so there's no justification for having two "and"s.

(A) and meat rarely
PROBLEM: No and allowed.

(B) and meat was rare
PROBLEM: Again.

(C) with meat as rare
PROBLEM: You can't just say "meat as rare". As sets up either a comparison ("meat as rare as an uncooked log.") or some type of prepositional phrase ("meat as metaphor for life...").

(D) meat a rarity
PROBLEM: We need some segue from the last item in the list.

(E) with meat as a rarity
ANSWER: We get the prepositional phrase. It's a bit odd, since it's modifying something that came a long time ago, but it's still the best choice.

Hope that helps!

-tommy

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Re: Diet of Ordinary Greek [#permalink] New post 07 May 2010, 04:16
there is no need for any explanation after Tommy`s, doing it just for myself :)


E

there are three points in a row. before the last one we can see the conjunction "and". So all options with another "and" are out.
rarity is much better than rare when you are trying to describe a noun.
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Re: Diet of Ordinary Greek [#permalink] New post 07 May 2010, 04:22
serhio,

This is not my question. Please read carefully what I have asked Tommy.


serhio wrote:
there is no need for any explanation after Tommy`s, doing it just for myself :)


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there are three points in a row. before the last one we can see the conjunction "and". So all options with another "and" are out.
rarity is much better than rare when you are trying to describe a noun.

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Re: Diet of Ordinary Greek [#permalink] New post 07 May 2010, 10:21
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Hey Ykaiim,

"Or" is another parallelism marker. But for what it's worth, "or" sets up alternatives, not a list, per se. But yes, if you want to discuss alternatives, then "or" must come before the final term in the parallel structure.

Thanks for making sure that got mentioned!

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Re: Diet of Ordinary Greek [#permalink] New post 31 Jul 2010, 15:44
TommyWallach wrote:
Hey All,

No one bothered to explain this one on here, so I figured I'd weigh in, since it's a quick one.

The diet of the ordinary Greek in classical times was largely vegetarian—vegetables, fresh cheese, oatmeal, and meal cakes, and meat rarely.

Obviously, this is a parallelism issue. Every list needs to have "and" at the end. You can't use "and" twice, unless the second to last item in the list is a compound. For example: "I like all kinds of sandwiches: reuben, turkey, pastrami, peanut butter and jelly, and veggie." But in that case, there are two nouns in that second to last entry (peanut butter and jelly). We don't have that here, so there's no justification for having two "and"s.

Hope that helps!

-tommy


You can interpret the sentence as if there were two lists. In that case, 2 "ands" were allowed. Actually, the best answer would be:

The diet of the ordinary Greek in classical times was largely vegetarianvegetables, fresh cheese, oatmeal, and meal cakes, and rarely mexican.


Two lists, two ands.
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Re: Diet of Ordinary Greek [#permalink] New post 01 Aug 2010, 04:47
Great work Tommy you explained it well.
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Re: Diet of Ordinary Greek [#permalink] New post 01 Aug 2010, 12:04
E... the list gets over, hence you need a "with"..

This is an OG question
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Re: The diet of the ordinary Greek in classical times was [#permalink] New post 28 May 2012, 13:23
Guys, in adittion to the posted replies, I would like to add that rare is an adjective, therefore it needs an additional noun to make the comparison work.
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