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The Emperor Augustus, it appears, commissioned an idealized

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Re: The Emperor Augustus [#permalink] New post 26 Jul 2011, 08:57
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While limiting myself to why C is not correct

I have no reason to doubt the ‘they’ has no referent. It does have. i.e. ‘features’; so C can not be faulted on that count. The problem is more with the tense

The first part of the sub clause introduced by which, has ‘are’ as its verb, a simple present, while the second part introduced by ‘that’ has ‘have constituted’ as its verb, a present perfect, which in my opinion is structurally unparallel. Second, logically when we pronounce something as ‘has/have constituted’ we intend to mean that something has been started in the past, it has continued until the present and plausibly may continue for some more time, but can not say whether it will continue for a long time. But the text seeks to say that the features will continue to be unrealistic for quite some time to come, and hence the proper verb to describe such a phenomenon should be a present tense. Hence ‘they have constituted’ in C is the culprit
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Re: The Emperor Augustus [#permalink] New post 27 Jul 2011, 05:57
A. idiom "so x as to Y" is correct idiom
C. idiom "so x that y" is correct idiom too. Bat here x and y should be parallel. But "so unrealistic that they have constituted" not ||

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Re: The Emperor Augustus, it appears, commissioned an idealized [#permalink] New post 28 May 2012, 12:51
They does not have clear antecedent I guess!
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Re: The Emperor Augustus, it appears, commissioned an idealized [#permalink] New post 08 Sep 2013, 07:41
Can someone elaborate on this problem by first clarifying the meaning?

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Re: The Emperor Augustus, it appears, commissioned an idealized [#permalink] New post 10 Sep 2013, 02:51
The Emperor Augustus, it appears, commissioned an idealized sculptured portrait, the features of which are so unrealistic as to constitute what one scholar calls an “artificial face.”
(A) so unrealistic as to constitute
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(B) so unrealistic they constituted
- What is the antecedent for "THEY". There is none. Pronoun can't stand on its own without its antecedent. Correct structure is either "So X that Y" or "So X as to Y". But in this option THAT or AS TO is missing. Thus Incorrect

(C) so unrealistic that they have constituted
- What is the antecedent for "THEY". There is none. Pronoun can't stand on its own without its antecedent. Thus Incorrect

(D) unrealistic enough so that they constitute
- What is the antecedent for "THEY". There is none. Pronoun can't stand on its own without its antecedent. In this option use of "SO THAT" indicates PURPOSE, but author does not want to convey PURPOSE. Thus Incorrect

(E) unrealistic enough so as to constitute
In this option use of "SO THAT" indicates PURPOSE, but author does not want to convey PURPOSE. Thus Incorrect

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Re: The Emperor Augustus, it appears, commissioned an idealized [#permalink] New post 18 Sep 2013, 09:14
Actually, in gmat, we donot use 'enough' frequently, then, the answer should be the correct one.
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Re: The Emperor Augustus, it appears, commissioned an idealized [#permalink] New post 19 Sep 2013, 05:01
Hi Guys,

Let me see if I can help.

The issue with C is not Idiom, it is tense.

Here is all of C, with issue highlighted.

The Emperor Augustus, it appears, commissioned an idealized sculptured portrait, the features of which are so unrealistic that they have constituted what one scholar calls an “artificial face.”

As you can see, the 'have constituted' does not sit well with the 'commisioned'. It implies that the 'constituted' happened before the 'commision'. This is obviously nonsense, the 'constitute' must have followed the 'commision'

Does that help?

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Re: The Emperor Augustus, it appears, commissioned an idealized [#permalink] New post 19 Sep 2013, 06:40
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Hi Guys,

Let me see if I can help.

The issue with C is not Idiom, it is tense.

Here is all of C, with issue highlighted.

The Emperor Augustus, it appears, commissioned an idealized sculptured portrait, the features of which are so unrealistic that they have constituted what one scholar calls an “artificial face.”

As you can see, the 'have constituted' does not sit well with the 'commisioned'. It implies that the 'constituted' happened before the 'commision'. This is obviously nonsense, the 'constitute' must have followed the 'commision'

Does that help?

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Hi James,
Well since I am a non native, I am not so sure but what I have learnt till now is that if we have 2 things that happened in the past then we use "had" i.e. past perfect tense rather than present perfect tense.

We use present perfect tense when we have something that happened in the past and has an effect in the present and that when no time is mentioned. And that one need not happen before the other.

Please correct me if I am wrong.
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Re: The Emperor Augustus, it appears, commissioned an idealized [#permalink] New post 02 Oct 2013, 23:32
A.So X as Y- correct idiom use. it appears is parallel with constitute
B. So X they - incorrect idiom. Tense issue- constituted should be constitute.
C. So X that Y - correct idiom use. Tense issue- they have constituted should be constitute.
D&E. Both are awkward and unidiomatic.
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