The Final Climb: Quest for Q 50+ from Q47/48

Hi karishma, I agree with you on the logical approach issue. I have been following this approach for most of the questions and have got rich dividends in terms of time(for extra hard/tricky questions) and high scores. Rather, i owe my first 48 and that too without any practice to this approach. Yes, i could do the question in less than a minute with the logical approach. One can only use it once the person is done with the concepts. However, after having revised most of the concepts(mgmat 5 books), the score is still hovering around 47/48. I could identify three reasons:-
1) By applying the logical approach, I was moving too fast(end up finishing quant of gmatprep, mgmat CATs and gmatclub tests with around 15 - 20 minutes left). This way, i was making far too many careless/silly errors. So now i decided to GO SLOW, i keep telling myself that i have to go slow....i hope the results will prove it's efficacy .
2) I was getting around one-third of the questions wrong in Geometry, so decided to study it again, master the concepts and do a lot of varying difficulty problems.
3) I also noticed my weakness in questions testing mixed concepts( generally 700+ level), so decided to do a lot of prac questions, thus making sure that the surprise factor is reduced by the time i appear for the actual CAT.
BTW, Do you think the OG 12 and OG quant have hard questions I have my apprehensions about the same.I don't think it's worth spending time on something that one can easily do, rather i would love to do the problems that i have difficulty in and that teach me something new.

i second your question..to put it the other way.. what is a rich source of 700+ quant questions?

Hi Karishma, sincere thanks for your prompt reply and pearls of wisdom.
I would like to ask you one more question regarding what you wrote about mixed concepts. Since we are likely to see more of these questions in 700 + level, what would be ur take on such questions? Actually speaking, i am simply not able to connect the different concepts with each other. Is it due to my non-familarity with such questions or is it that the hit ratio with everybody in such questions is generally low.
Thanx and Regards
Rajeev

Hi Guys,

I am also in for the battle, i had Q-45 in my real GMAT , and now i am on my way to Q-49/50.

I do have MGMAT Advanced GMAT, its a great resource, especially for strategies.

I have two vertias books - especially the one probability and combi is a great resource.

Having said that, can we have a collection of OG questions (numbers only) for DS and PS which are of the level of 700+? Can I roughly go through last 100-50 questions? Please tell.

I am in the same boat. I like the gmat club tests as well. I was just curious, who created these questions? and who put these together?

I did another mock test yesterday, this time the real gmatprep test. I noticed how different the algorithm on the gmatprep software is compared to MGMAT CAT. On MGMAT's CAT you can clearly see whether you got a question or two in a row wrong, because the software will lower the difficulty of the questions pretty quickly. On GMATprep however, you get easier questions throughout the test, even though you have made no mistakes in prior questions. I think its really important to kind of understand the software's algorithm, because I really was a little confused during the test, thinking that I got a lot of questions wrong, because the test kept throwing 500-600 level questions at me from time to time. I didnt really get a really tough problem until question 25, up until that question I only had to incorrect ones( but thought I had a lot more wrong), but the really tough problems on the GMATprep software are even harder than the 700-800 level questions on MGMAT. I scored a 49 on the quant section yesterday and I think maybe I could have scored higher if I hadn't assumed that i already got a lot of questions wrong. I also have to focus on the really tough questions, so I guess the gmatclub sets are next for me.

So team,

What is the strategy to pick the Quant from 48/49 to 50/51?

Re-read MGMT guides?
GMAT club tests?
review previously missed Qs?
Buy some tough questions and practice?
Solve more Qs from OG 13, paper tests, Question pack?

how about for Verbal from 38/39 to 42/44?

same as above??

Don't know what will provide me/us that push?

Thoughts??

hi Rajeev,

in the same boat , have taken 2 preps Q46 46. Will have to take it to 50 n for that hv 2 b quick off the block wth some serious planning/strategy; kudos to u for starting this thread. Exam date may end.

Have done all set 1 Q's from Arun Sharma n BRM from IMS, all sets of 700 800 of Bunuel, some 7 samurai sets, JEFF sacman extreme challenge both ps n ds , set,statistics from Jeff Sacman Gmat Math Og 11 last 100 Q's.

Took Gmat club test 25 in a non timed atm n was ok, dnt remeber the score.Gmat club diagnostic got 30 correct of 45. The wrong ones were mainly from the 1st 30. Jeff Sacman was not of a problem, it mainly hovers round probability n P&C n if u hv good understanding of the concepts it wl b a breeze. My analysis - ok with Adv concepts but the simpler ones hv gone rusty.

Planning to redo all Bunuel posts, OG 12, Jeff Sacman Gmat Maths concept wise - in between will take gmat prep twice guess that wl exhaust the series n then finally jump on the gmat prep Q's n continue with the CAT's.

Thats my plan in a nutshell n will try to stick to it.

Rgds Susmit

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Hi sushmit, you plan is good and i am sure you will score much more than 46 after doing the second practice.
Any specific reason for not including all 25 tests of gmatclub in ur study regimen?
Rajeev

Hi bellcurve, I have written my strategy above and after following it for more than a month, now i am consistently scoring 49 in quant. Hope to finish the journey with 50/50+.
How about ur strategy, what score u r getting and which all books ur referring to?
Cheers
Rajeev

Rajeev,

I don't think I got your question. Are you referring to additional questions?

Hi Rajeev,

Don't have that many posts against my name hence restricting myself to the free ones M 25.

Wrt my plan ; 1. Completed OG 11 PS n DS
2. Re_ Done Bunuel 700+ DS

Next will touch upon Bunuel 700+ PS n ;OG 12 n then J Sackman series - the ones where -that I feel is pulling me down.

Will take gmatprep today ; will keep u postedm

Rgds Susmit

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Hi All,

Gave gmatprep ystrday n Oooooo again a consistent Q46.

Analysis f total 16 wrongs , 6 were sitters/ext silly mistakes.I cld have without even batting my eyelid reduced the no of mistakes to 2)
Conceptual mistakes ; 5-6 ( Freq Distribn , Median_ Mode Type , Mixture,); Rest it was time management that was taking a toll.

In the last 25 _ 37 series - got 7 wrong of which 4 were in a row - unpardonable mist n it was mainly due to poor time mgmt n had to rush thru the Q's.

WiLl revisit the conceptual errors n next for the MGMCAT series on which I am planning to dive from this weekend. Will try to manage time more effectively.

Strtegy : ist 15 in 40 mins ,16-24 in10 mins n last 12 in25.

Let's see hw things shape up.

Rgds Susmit

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I have my doubts about ur strategy of giving more time to initial questions and less time to last 10-15.
If you do well initially, you will face questions which are more hard and thus more time consuming.
IMO, it's better to go at a normal pace of 2 min/qns as average.
Do let us know what you think about what i mentioned above?
Regards
Rajeev

A cool thread with some very helpful tricks
trouble-with-quant-some-tips-traps-that-might-help-you-34329.html
Highly recommended to all my fellow test takers questing to achieve higher score.

Took powerprep 1 and 2 and score 50 and 51 in them respectively. Not overwhelmed because i know the lenient scoring system and the easy level of questions.
BTW, after having finished almost half the mgmat advanced quant, I have gained a lot and i highly recommend this book to be done before jumping onto the gmatclub tests and jeff sackmann's challenge sets( 1000 questions). The book is well structured , organised and practical. A must have to score 50+.
Good luck.