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The first political passengers on modern railroad cars were a president, a senator, and a governor that had been traveling to Washington, D.C. together on the Liberty Express in 1907.

A)The first political passengers on modern railroad cars were a president, a senator, and a governor that had been traveling

B)The first political passengers on modern railroad cars were a president, a senator, and a governor, who traveled

C)A president, a senator, and a governor were the first political passengers on modern railroad cars who traveled

D)A president, a senator, and a governor who were the first political passengers on modern railroad cars to travel

E)A president, a senator, and a governor were the first political passengers on modern railroad cars traveling
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New post 25 Jun 2007, 07:35
I narrowed down to B and C. Somehow C fits in better .
I believe 3 nouns followed by were is correct rather than other way round.
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C has modifer problem, Car should not be referred as "who".

Eliminate A because of tense, had been travelling is wrong.

I will go with B.
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New post 25 Jun 2007, 08:57
I too narrowed to B and C and selected C
OA is B.

The argument against C is (given in the source):
Meaning. This choice makes it seem that these people were the first passengers on railroad cars who traveled to D.C., rather than just the first passengers on railroad cars.

My point - well, who knows history. These people could well have been the first persons to travel in railroads to DC. In fact, because it lists Presidents, I thought that was the intended meaning.

Any more opinions ? I wanted to see if there is any grammatical flaw.
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I too narrowed to B and C and selected C
OA is B.

The argument against C is (given in the source):
Meaning. This choice makes it seem that these people were the first passengers on railroad cars who traveled to D.C., rather than just the first passengers on railroad cars.

My point - well, who knows history. These people could well have been the first persons to travel in railroads to DC. In fact, because it lists Presidents, I thought that was the intended meaning.

Any more opinions ? I wanted to see if there is any grammatical flaw.


i picked "C" too, but i see the catch here.., "C" looks gramatically correct but it changes the original meaning here..
replace "who" in option "C" with "that" and see that it makes more sense wit the explanation given above..
basically a modifier issue...! hope this helps, correct if wrong..!!

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Lost to option (C).

The difference between option B and C is the meaning
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Clean C.

B is ambiguous. It could mean that the only person who traveled in the Liberty Express was the governor.
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I will go with B here

According to me in option B "a president, a senator and a governor".... is forming a compound subject, Also Modifier who properly modifying these people.

The problem i found with C is that "who" is modifying "Modern rail road cars"....this is changing the meaning of the sentence, since in the question what together traveled are people and not cars. thus it is wrong.
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I want to know what's wrong with E? besides meaning?
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The first political passengers on modern railroad cars were a president, a senator, and a governor that had been traveling to Washington, D.C. together on the Liberty Express in 1907.

A)The first political passengers on modern railroad cars were a president, a senator, and a governor that had been traveling

B)The first political passengers on modern railroad cars were a president, a senator, and a governor, who traveled

C)A president, a senator, and a governor were the first political passengers on modern railroad cars who traveled

D)A president, a senator, and a governor who were the first political passengers on modern railroad cars to travel

E)A president, a senator, and a governor were the first political passengers on modern railroad cars traveling






A)The first political passengers on modern railroad cars were a president, a senator, and a governor that had been traveling

In the non underline part of the sentence the specific time period ------in 1907 ------is given therefore use simple past tense ---traveled
concept -----if in the sentence specific time period is given use simple past tense


B)The first political passengers on modern railroad cars were a president, a senator, and a governor, who traveled

who traveled to Washington, D.C. together on the Liberty Express in 1907-------correctly modify ------The first political passengers on modern railroad cars were a president, a senator, and a governor



C)A president, a senator, and a governor were the first political passengers on modern railroad cars who traveled

who --modify----- cars---- wrong

who needs to modify people .


D)A president, a senator, and a governor who were the first political passengers on modern railroad cars to travel

In the non underline part of the sentence the specific time period ------in 1907 ------is given therefore use simple past tense ---traveled
concept -----if in the sentence specific time period is given use simple past tense


E)A president, a senator, and a governor were the first political passengers on modern railroad cars traveling

In the non underline part of the sentence the specific time period ------in 1907 ------is given therefore use simple past tense ---traveled
concept -----if in the sentence specific time period is given use simple past tense

correct Answer B
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Here, the critical word is 'together' in the non-underlined portion. This question gives us a good lesson because we care less to non-underline portion.
B is the answer because it is only answer that has no ambiguity problem. The word 'together' removes apparent ambiguity of 'who'.
C and E has modifier problems..who travel? Still, thhose two doesnt make sense because of 'together'.
A has tense problem.
D is a fragment.
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WE can solve this question on simple grammar.
A. pronoun that cannot refer to people
B. error-free
C. cars who traveled is absurd.
D. A flagrant fragment
E. Cars traveling is absurd.
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The first political passengers on modern railroad cars were a president, a senator, and a governor that had been traveling to Washington, D.C. together on the Liberty Express in 1907.

A)The first political passengers on modern railroad cars were a president, a senator, and a governor that had been traveling

B)The first political passengers on modern railroad cars were a president, a senator, and a governor, who traveled

C)A president, a senator, and a governor were the first political passengers on modern railroad cars who traveled

D)A president, a senator, and a governor who were the first political passengers on modern railroad cars to travel

E)A president, a senator, and a governor were the first political passengers on modern railroad cars traveling



I am extremely doubtful of the OA. Here is why:
The "who traveled" is placed after the comma, which means it is used as a non-restrictive modifier.
According to the rule, whatever is contained in the non-restrictive modifier has no bearing on the overall content of the sentence. In other words, we can completely ignore it. When this rule is applied, I get an impression that the fact those personnel traveled is completely indepdent of the fact that they were the first passengers.

Going over to C, I can't seem to figure out why "who traveled" classes cannot modify passengers. Note that the railroad cars are the object of the preposition "on". To illustrate, it would look like this passengers (on railroad cars) who traveled.

What are your thoughts on this guys?
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parsifal wrote:
The first political passengers on modern railroad cars were a president, a senator, and a governor that had been traveling to Washington, D.C. together on the Liberty Express in 1907.

A)The first political passengers on modern railroad cars were a president, a senator, and a governor that had been traveling

B)The first political passengers on modern railroad cars were a president, a senator, and a governor, who traveled

C)A president, a senator, and a governor were the first political passengers on modern railroad cars who traveled

D)A president, a senator, and a governor who were the first political passengers on modern railroad cars to travel

E)A president, a senator, and a governor were the first political passengers on modern railroad cars traveling



I am extremely doubtful of the OA. Here is why:
The "who traveled" is placed after the comma, which means it is used as a non-restrictive modifier.
According to the rule, whatever is contained in the non-restrictive modifier has no bearing on the overall content of the sentence. In other words, we can completely ignore it. When this rule is applied, I get an impression that the fact those personnel traveled is completely independent of the fact that they were the first passengers.

Going over to C, I can't seem to figure out why "who traveled" classes cannot modify passengers. Note that the railroad cars are the object of the preposition "on". To illustrate, it would look like this passengers (on railroad cars) who traveled.

What are your thoughts on this guys?


In option B the modifier who traveled...... is indeed a non-essential (non-restrictive) modifier. This modifier states something extra about the travelers. We are not identifying the political travelers among other political travelers using this modifier. Removing the modifier does not change the meaning of the sentence. Hence usage of this modifier as a non-restrictive modifier is correct. (The fact stated in the non-restrictive modifier may or may not have bearing to the main clause; stating something related to the main clause does not make the modifier an essential one)

A relative pronoun may refer to a noun which is an object of preposition. Hence in option C, the relative pronoun who may as well refer to cars which is closest to it (although who is not the correct relative pronoun for inanimate objects).
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