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Re: The first time that Larry walked down the ramp, laden with [#permalink] New post 16 Jul 2012, 06:52
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arunmehta89 wrote:

I am not sure but I guess for 'D' to be a correct , a comma is required at the end of option D.............

and option A is written beautifully,correctly explaining the scenario and 'laden with packages' correctly modifying Larry..............

Please correct me if I am wrong !!


Hi Arun,

The first time that Larry walked down the ramp, laden with packages, he tripped and nearly dislocated his shoulder.

It is clear that you get the intended meaning of the sentence. You agree that “laden with packages” should modify “Larry”.

According to GMAT, the verb-ed modifier is a noun modifier that should be placed to the entity it modifies as close as possible. Generally, verb-ed modifiers modify the immediate preceding noun or noun phrase.

In this sentence, “laden” is a verb-ed modifier which is places next to ramp. Even if it separated from “ramp” by comma, “ramp” is the immediate preceding noun and per the GMAT, “laden” will modify “ramp”. But this is certainly not the intended meaning of the sentence. Hence, we must put “laden” close to Larry so that there is no modification error.

You can also read this post for the correct usage of verb-ed modifiers:
verb-ed-modifiers-vs-verb-ing-modifiers-125611.html?fl=similar

I do agree that in Choice D, we need a comma after “ramp”. However, placement of comma alone has never been the deterministic issue for eliminating an answer choice. GMAT exclusively does not test the correct placement of punctuations. Moreover, to avoid a punctuation error, which is not even an error per GMAT, we are committing a graver error of modification by choosing A. Now modifiers are certainly deterministic errors to eliminate an answer choice.
Hence, we must choose the most ideal answer choice and that is choice D.

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Hi Shraddha ,

I'm just thinking out loud here, but why can't the answer choice be B. -- Larry walked, laden with packages, down the ramp . In this sentence , is it not possible to interpret it as Larry fell down the first time he walked with packages down the ramp. Or are there any indicators in the sentence that I am missing ?
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Re: The first time that Larry walked down the ramp, laden with [#permalink] New post 16 Jul 2012, 07:54
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Hi Shraddha ,

I'm just thinking out loud here, but why can't the answer choice be B. -- Larry walked, laden with packages, down the ramp . In this sentence , is it not possible to interpret it as Larry fell down the first time he walked with packages down the ramp. Or are there any indicators in the sentence that I am missing ?


Hi Arvind,
This is the sentence with choice B:

The first time that Larry walked, laden with packages, down the ramp he tripped and nearly dislocated his shoulder.

This choice is incorrect for two reasons:

1. “laden” is a verb-ed modifier. These modifiers are noun modifiers and hence must be placed as close to the entity they modify as possible. In this choice, “laden” is placed after the verb “walked”. This is not accepted in GMAT.
2. “walked down” is a verb phrase. It does not make sense to split this phrase by inserting a modifier in between. This structure makes the entire sentence awkward.

Hope this helps.
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Re: The first time that Larry walked down the ramp, laden with [#permalink] New post 16 Jul 2012, 08:26
Why isn't the answer E? Wouldn't we want to show the difference between in timing of two events?
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Re: The first time that Larry walked down the ramp, laden with [#permalink] New post 16 Jul 2012, 08:36
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(E) complicates the sentence with a "past-past" tense phrase "had walked"...there is no change in timing so no change in tense needed

You use "had walked" if the sentence said something like "When Larry walked down the ramp, he remembered he had tripped at this same spot 5 years ago"....
Here with the word "remembered"--it suggests a transition to the past...therefore you use the "past-past tense"..
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Re: The first time that Larry walked down the ramp, laden with [#permalink] New post 01 Nov 2012, 02:55
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Isn't "laden with packages" an absolute phrase that tells "how Larry walked down the ramp".
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Re: The first time that Larry walked down the ramp, laden with [#permalink] New post 02 Nov 2012, 07:50
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Isn't "laden with packages" an absolute phrase that tells "how Larry walked down the ramp".


Hi Marcab,

In this sentence, "laden with packages" is verb-ed modifier. On GMAT, a verb-ed modifier only modifies the preceding noun entity and not the entire preceding clause. Now, per the context of the sentence and grammatically also, "laden with packages" should modify "Larry" only and not the whole clause as to how he walked down the ramp.

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Re: The first time that Larry walked down the ramp, laden with [#permalink] New post 30 Dec 2012, 04:07
“laden with packages” modifies Larry. Eliminate A, B and C
E – had not necessary. Eliminate
D – Keep.
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