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The first trenches that were cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, have yielded strong evidence for centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East tHat were arising simultaneously with but independently of the more celebrated city-states of southern Mesopotamia, in what is now southern Iraq.

(A) that were cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, have yielded strong evidence for centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East that were arising simultaneously with but

(B) that were cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, yields strong evidence that centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East were arising simultaneously with but also

(C) having been cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, have yielded strong evidence that centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East were arising simultaneously but

(D) cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, yields strong evidence of centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East arising simultaneously but also

(E) cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, have yielded strong evidence that centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East arose simultaneously with but

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I came up with D and I understand why it's wrong, but E sounds awkward to me...it seems that there should be a comma after "with" in order for the sentence to be smooth.

I would appreciate the collective input on this questoin...thanks.
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That's great, thank you for the detailed breakdown, very helpful.

gurpreetsingh, do you have a good source for the use of "that"...it's giving me some heartache :)

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The subject is trenches and hence the verb has to be have yielded and not yields. So dump B and D. In C, having been cut is ungrammatical. Between A and E, strong evidence for societies that were arising as in choice A is wrong idiomatically, and dictionally. E is the only choice without any errors.
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martie11 wrote:
The first trenches that were cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, have yielded strong evidence for centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East tHat were arising simultaneously with but independently of the more celebrated city-states of southern Mesopotamia, in what is now southern Iraq.

(A) that were cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, have yielded strong evidence for centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East that were arising simultaneously with but
that can not modify middle east. Other way could be to separate clauses using that, but 'that' is used wrongly in that content too.
(B) that were cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, yields strong evidence that centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East were arising simultaneously with but also
SV-agreement error -> The trenches is plural , but yields is singular

(C) having been cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, have yielded strong evidence that centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East were arising simultaneously but -->simultaneously with is required. X but Y-> X and Y should be parallel. here y is - independently of

(D) cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, yields strong evidence of centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East arising simultaneously but also ->Same as C

(E) cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, have yielded strong evidence that centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East arose simultaneously with but
simultaneously with but independently of - bolded parts are parallel


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The first trenches that were cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar. Svria. have yielded strong evidence for centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East that were arising simultaneously with but independently of the more celebrated city-states of southern Mesopotamia, in what is now southern Iraq.

(A) that were cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, have yielded strong evidence for centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East that were arising simultaneously with but

(B) that were cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, yields strong evidence that centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East were arising simultaneously with but also

(C) having been cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, have yielded strong evidence that centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East were arising simultaneously but

(D) cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, yields strong evidence of centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East arising simultaneously but also

(E) cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, have yielded strong evidence that centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East arose simultaneously with but
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The first trenches that were cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar. Svria. have yielded strong evidence for centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East that were arising simultaneously with but independently of the more celebrated city-states of southern Mesopotamia, in what is now southern Iraq.

evidence for or evidence of is incorrectly used in option A and D. centrally administered complex societies is not the intended object that preposition of or for meaning wise intends to modify. In some cases we can use evidence of or for but in this question it is used in a worst manner.

e.g: We have not found any evidence of food poisoning. (correct)
We have not found any evidence of my brother stealing bread ( incorrect). Here intention is to express evidence of theft not evidence of my brother and that can be best expressed by using restrictive clause that and same is done in B, D, and E.

(A) that were cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, have yielded strong evidence for centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East that were arising simultaneously with but

(B) that were cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, yields strong evidence that centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East were arising simultaneously with but also
S-V error, trenches is plural but verb yields is in singular form. best half of But also that is not only is missing. thus, such use is incorrect.

(C) having been cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, have yielded strong evidence that centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East were arising simultaneously but
99.99% use of having modifying a noun is incorrect in official incorrect options. I don't have any other reason to reject this choice.

(D) cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, yields strong evidence of centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East arising simultaneously but also
S-V error + evidence of error as explained above.

(E) cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, have yielded strong evidence that centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East arose simultaneously with but[/quote]
Here cut is acting as -ed modifier modifying trenches. Evidence that is fine . Arose past tense verb is fine. simultaneously with but independently of X is fine.

Therefore, E is the best.

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The first trenches that were cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, have yielded strong evidence for centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East that were arising simultaneously with but independently of the more celebrated city-states of southern Mesopotamia, in what is now southern Iraq.

A. that were cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, have yielded strong evidence for centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East that were arising simultaneously with but
B. that were cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, yields strong evidence that centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East were arising simultaneously with but also
C. having been cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, have yielded strong evidence that centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East were arising simultaneously but
D. cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, yields strong evidence of centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East arising simultaneously but also
E. cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, have yielded strong evidence that centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East arose simultaneously with but

Meaning
Trenches that cut into 500 Acre, yielded strong evidence that some region arose simultaneously but independently.

Error Analysis :
1. Modifier : "The first trenches that were cut" - It implies that Trenches were Cut, but trenches cut by whom. Don't you think it the phrase "Cut into 500 acres" Should actually describe of modify the noun trenches.
Hence The First trenches (that - Silent) cut into 500 acre site is preferred over "The Trenches that were cut"


2. Idiomatic error "Evidence For" – “Evidence that” is correct

3. use of past continuous tense “ Were arising “, Past continuous is used to show an event interrupted by some other event.
I was working, when Mr X shouted. – My work got interrupted when some other event (X shouted) happened.
No other event is mentioned, which likely interrupt the ongoing action of arise. Hence incorrect. Instead we should use, Simple past tense arose.

4. “Simultaneously with” more celebrated city – Correct
“Independently of” more celebrated city – Correct

POE :

A. that were cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, have yielded strong evidence for centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East that were arising simultaneously with but

Incorrect – See reasons explained in Error Analysis

B. that were cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, yields strong evidence that centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East were arising simultaneously with but also

Incorrect –
1. Modifer error “Trenches that were”
2. Plural Verb “Trenches” Does not match in number with Singular verb “Yields”
3. Idiom error – “But Also” – But also requires “Not only”
4. Past continuous tense – Were arising

C. having been cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, have yielded strong evidence that centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East were arising simultaneously but

Incorrect –
1. Modifier – “Having been cut” – Having modifying noun does not sound correct
2. Absence of With after simultaneously makes it incorrect.
3. Past continuous “Were arising”

D. cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, yields strong evidence of centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East arising simultaneously but also

Incorrect –
1. Plural Verb “Trenches” Does not match in number with Singular verb “Yields”
2. Incorrect idiom “Evidence Of”
3. Absence of With after simultaneously makes it incorrect.



E. cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, have yielded strong evidence that centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East arose simultaneously with but

Correct:
1. Modifer “cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria” correctly modifies Trenches
2. Subject “Trenches” agress in number with verb “Have yielded”
3. Correct Idiom “yielded Evidence that”
4. Simple past tense “arose simultaneously with”
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Hi vishwaprakash,

You haven't asked for any assistance, but I hope you're okay with my going through your analysis.

1. The modifier here is not The first trenches that were cut. The modifier is that were cut. It is correctly modifying the noun The first trenches. However, in English, when we get a passive verb in a relative clause, we can "reduce" that clause to a phrase. More specifically, we can move to a participle (cut). Keep in mind that this is not the active verb cut. The meaning of the two options (The first trenches that were cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, have yielded strong evidence and The first trenches cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, have yielded strong evidence) is exactly the same. The first one uses a few more words is all.

2. Evidence for is idiomatically possible. Evidence of is also idiomatically possible.

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Hi vishwaprakash,

You haven't asked for any assistance, but I hope you're okay with my going through your analysis.

1. The modifier here is not The first trenches that were cut. The modifier is that were cut. It is correctly modifying the noun The first trenches. However, in English, when we get a passive verb in a relative clause, we can "reduce" that clause to a phrase. More specifically, we can move to a participle (cut). Keep in mind that this is not the active verb cut. The meaning of the two options (The first trenches that were cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, have yielded strong evidence and The first trenches cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, have yielded strong evidence) is exactly the same. The first one uses a few more words is all.

2. Evidence for is idiomatically possible. Evidence of is also idiomatically possible.

It's great to see how you worked through the question. Analysis is super useful when we're looking to get better.


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Thanks for the correction,

When i wrote modifier "The first trenches that were cut" i actually mean modifier in "The first trenches that were cut" that is "That were cut" . But i have one point over here ""The first trenches that were cut" doesn't it say that "trenches were cut" -> trenches don' cut now.
However "Trenches cut into blah blah" - Truth still valid.
Whats your view on this :)

Idioms are subject dependent, hence i usually dont take it as driving factor behind POE. most of idioms error, will not be an error, if we just change the context. :)
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vishwaprakash wrote:
"trenches were cut" -> trenches don' cut now.
However "Trenches cut into blah blah" - Truth still valid.

The correct meaning is actually the passive one (trenches were cut). The trenches are not cutting into anything. Someone else cut those trenches into the site in Syria (at some point in the past).
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