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The football team, tired after four hours of practice and wanted to reach home quickly, took a short cut.

A. tired after four hours of practice and wanted to reach home quickly, took a short cut.
B. tired after four hours of practice and wanting to reach home quickly, took a short cut.
C. tired after four hours of practice and because they wanted to reach home quickly, took a short cut.
D. tired after four hours of practice and wanting to reach home quickly, will take a short cut.
E. tiring after four hours of practice and wanting to reach home quickly, took a short cut.
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The football team, tired after four hours of practice and wanted to reach home quickly, took a short cut.

A. tired after four hours of practice and wanted to reach home quickly, took a short cut. -----and wanted to reach home is not participial modifier in this context. It is an IC and hence the modifier //ism is distorted.


B. tired after four hours of practice and wanting to reach home quickly, took a short cut. ---= modifier now is ok with the present participle replacing the past tense verb --- correct choice.

C. tired after four hours of practice and because they wanted to reach home quickly, took a short cut.
---- Ed modifier and sub-clause distort the modifier //ism.

D. tired after four hours of practice and wanting to reach home quickly, will take a short cut. ---- will take is a wrong tense logically for an event that gives the inkling of a past event. But it is arguable that being tired is a present phenomenon and the taking the short cut in the future is plausible. But the use of the verb will take looks a bit on the extreme

E. tiring after four hours of practice and wanting to reach home quickly took a short cut.--- The absence of the comma after quickly, iis wrong //ism ;
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Re: The football team, tired after four hours of practice and [#permalink] New post 08 Jun 2013, 23:09
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The football team, tired after four hours of practice and wanted to reach home quickly, took a short cut.

A. tired after four hours of practice and wanted to reach home quickly, took a short cut.
B. tired after four hours of practice and wanting to reach home quickly, took a short cut.
C. tired after four hours of practice and because they wanted to reach home quickly, took a short cut.
D. tired after four hours of practice and wanting to reach home quickly, will take a short cut.
E. tiring after four hours of practice and wanting to reach home quickly, took a short cut.


I love this question so much.

Verb-ed VS Verb-ing modifier

*Verb-ed: "tired" is correct. But "wanted" is wrong. The football team was tired, but it was not wanted :). ==> Verb-ing modifier: "wanting" is correct. Only B and D remain.

D is wrong because it change the intended meaning by using future tense "will take a short cut"

B is correct.
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Re: The football team, tired after four hours [#permalink] New post 10 Oct 2012, 02:24
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IMO B
tired and wanting are parallel and logical.
tired is a past participle and wanting is a present participle and they are perfectly parallel in terms of meaning.
Here is a OG question which uses and elaborates the idea!
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Re: The football team, tired after four hours [#permalink] New post 10 Oct 2012, 09:31
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IMO B
tired and wanting are parallel and logical.
tired is a past participle and wanting is a present participle and they are perfectly parallel in terms of meaning.
Here is a OG question which uses and elaborates the idea!
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You are right thisis the perfect example of how a change in the tense is used to make proper sense.
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Re: The football team, tired after four hours [#permalink] New post 19 May 2013, 07:20
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IMO B
tired and wanting are parallel and logical.
tired is a past participle and wanting is a present participle and they are perfectly parallel in terms of meaning.
Here is a OG question which uses and elaborates the idea!
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Hi Souvik,

Could you please elaborate what is wrong with E. Why is E not a correct choice isn't tiring and wanting parallel.
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Re: The football team, tired after four hours [#permalink] New post 19 May 2013, 10:47
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Hi Souvik,

Could you please elaborate what is wrong with E. Why is E not a correct choice isn't tiring and wanting parallel.


Let me chip in ... :)
It cannot be tiring but a simple past tense, because the football team cannot be "tiring" after four hours of practice ... instead the team is "tired" after four hours of practice ...
makes sense??
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Re: The football team, tired after four hours [#permalink] New post 20 May 2013, 03:39
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davidfrank wrote:
Hi Souvik,

Could you please elaborate what is wrong with E. Why is E not a correct choice isn't tiring and wanting parallel.


Let me chip in ... :)
It cannot be tiring but a simple past tense, because the football team cannot be "tiring" after four hours of practice ... instead the team is "tired" after four hours of practice ...
makes sense??


Help me understand this.....if it can't be tiring then how come the second part is acceptable as "wanting to go home"
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Re: The football team, tired after four hours [#permalink] New post 20 May 2013, 04:25
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ankurgupta03 wrote:
davidfrank wrote:
Hi Souvik,

Could you please elaborate what is wrong with E. Why is E not a correct choice isn't tiring and wanting parallel.


Let me chip in ... :)
It cannot be tiring but a simple past tense, because the football team cannot be "tiring" after four hours of practice ... instead the team is "tired" after four hours of practice ...
makes sense??


Help me understand this.....if it can't be tiring then how come the second part is acceptable as "wanting to go home"


Wanting to go home is correct, because, the team will go home after it is four hours of practice and after it is tired ...
Now is it clear?
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Re: The football team, tired after four hours of practice and [#permalink] New post 20 May 2013, 07:37
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Could somebody tell me why is D not acceptable
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Re: The football team, tired after four hours [#permalink] New post 20 May 2013, 23:07
Help me understand this.....if it can't be tiring then how come the second part is acceptable as "wanting to go home"[/quote]

Wanting to go home is correct, because, the team will go home after it is four hours of practice and after it is tired ...
Now is it clear?[/quote]

I am not fully convinced with the answer. Thanks for your help though
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Re: The football team, tired after four hours of practice and [#permalink] New post 20 May 2013, 23:08
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Could somebody tell me why is D not acceptable


Please look at the part of the sentence after comma.

The football team, tired after four hours of practice and wanted to reach home quickly, will take a short cut. The events are in past tense and hence you can't have a future tense here.
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Re: The football team, tired after four hours [#permalink] New post 20 May 2013, 23:25
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The football team, tired after four hours of practice and wanted to reach home quickly, took a short cut.

A. tired after four hours of practice and wanted to reach home quickly, took a short cut. -----and wanted to reach home is not participial modifier in this context. It is an IC and hence the modifier //ism is distorted.


B. tired after four hours of practice and wanting to reach home quickly, took a short cut. ---= modifier now is ok with the present participle replacing the past tense verb --- correct choice.

C. tired after four hours of practice and because they wanted to reach home quickly, took a short cut.
---- Ed modifier and sub-clause distort the modifier //ism.

D. tired after four hours of practice and wanting to reach home quickly, will take a short cut. ---- will take is a wrong tense logically for an event that gives the inkling of a past event. But it is arguable that being tired is a present phenomenon and the taking the short cut in the future is plausible. But the use of the verb will take looks a bit on the extreme

E. tiring after four hours of practice and wanting to reach home quickly took a short cut.--- The absence of the comma after quickly, iis wrong //ism ;

it will be B...although I can see that I am the last to state that... :)
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davidfrank: Please read D again; You have wrongly transcribed it. it is not – “and wanted to reach home quickly” as you have stated. The correct version in D is - and wanting to reach home quickly” – ‘tired after’ is a past participle, with no sense of tense. “Wanting to reach home” a present participle, again without any sense of tense. Wanting to reach home and wanted to reach home are totally different. Don’t you think d has some hold to consider?
But still to say so definitely that the tired team will be wanting to go home quickly and will take a short cut,( as if the author decides for the team) looks a bit fancying than real. This is my feeling.
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Re: The football team, tired after four hours of practice and [#permalink] New post 20 May 2013, 23:45
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davidfrank: Please read D again; You have wrongly transcribed it. it is not – “and wanted to reach home quickly” as you have stated. The correct version in D is - and wanting to reach home quickly” – ‘tired after’ is a past participle, with no sense of tense. “Wanting to reach home” a present participle, again without any sense of tense. Wanting to reach home and wanted to reach home are totally different. Don’t you think d has some hold to consider?
But still to say so definitely that the tired team will be wanting to go home quickly and will take a short cut,( as if the author decides for the team) looks a bit fancying than real. This is my feeling.


@Daagh-I really made a mess of the modifiers...apologise....but the outcome "tired after four hours of practice and wanting to reach home quickly, will take a short cut." Please excuse for the typo error but I did point out the error that you can't use future tense for the past event.
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Re: The football team, tired after four hours of practice and [#permalink] New post 20 May 2013, 23:50
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david, I fully agree with you; It looks like saying, I ate tomorrow.
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Re: The football team, tired after four hours of practice and [#permalink] New post 21 May 2013, 00:23
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the outcome "tired after four hours of practice and wanting to reach home quickly, will take a short cut." Please excuse for the typo error but I did point out the error that you can't use future tense for the past event.


It depends on the context actually. For example following would be correct:

Hurt after loosing the last elections but raring to try again, the candidate with seek a re-election.
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Re: The football team, tired after four hours of practice and [#permalink] New post 09 Jun 2013, 00:51
B is my choice. tired & wanting are parallel. Tired & wanted - show two independent events ..Wrong. we need two parallel participles here.
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Re: The football team, tired after four hours of practice and [#permalink] New post 17 Sep 2013, 06:05
-ed and ing form can be parallel in case they are modifying the same entity,-
So here, wanting and tired refer to the same entity, football team and hence B is corect.

D and E change the tense and changed the first element of the parallelism respectively, so they are wrong.
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