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The governor s team of advisors, including her education and [#permalink] New post 22 Sep 2012, 10:16
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The governor’s team of advisors, including her education and political strategists, has not been available for comment since the release of her controversial education reform proposal.

A has not been available for comment since the release of her controversial education reform proposal
B have not been available for comment since the governor released her controversial education reform proposal
C has not been available to make comments since releasing her proposal on controversial education reform
D have not been available for comment since releasing her controversial education reform proposal
E has not been available to make comments since the release of her proposal on controversial reform in education
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There is no requirement to use prepositions to make the sentence wordy.

For eg. prince sat on a gold throne OR prince sat on the throne of gold.

Sentence one is preferable, the structure S + V + ADJ + NOUN preferred over S + V + NOUN + prepositional phrase.

I hope that is fine
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Re: The governor s team of advisors, including her education and [#permalink] New post 16 Feb 2013, 12:22
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Hi guys,

I have seen this question on manhattan gmat and even though I got the correct answer but still was not really convinced by the use of the pronoun "her" to refer to the governor who is only present in the possessive "the governor's team". I also read this topic about this sentence where some people seem to believe it is a wrong usage :
http://gmatclub.com/forum/the-governors-team-of-advisors-including-her-education-and-75712.html?hilit=The%20governor%E2%80%99s%20team%20of%20advisors


Please can somebody convincingly give the final word on whether a pronouns which refers to an antecedent in the possessive form are accepted by the GMAT or not ? Thanks a lot!


Hi Darmody,

"her" is a possessive pronoun and it can refer to the possessive "governor's". If you consider the original sentence, the answer choice (A) uses "the governor" in the underlined part because "she" can not be used for a possessive noun "governor's"

The following sentence will be correct as per GMAT

The editor's team and his family went to the ceremony.

The following will not be correct

The editor's team accompanied him to the ceremony.

The following will be correct

The editor's team accompanied the editor and his family to the ceremony.

I hope it clears your doubt,

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Re: MOdifier [#permalink] New post 22 Sep 2012, 12:27
The governor’s team of advisors, including her education and political strategists, has not been available for comment since the release of her controversial education reform proposal.

A has not been available for comment since the release of her controversial education reform proposal correct Sub-verb usage
B have not been available for comment since the governor released her controversial education reform proposal Singular collective noun team will have a singular verb
C has not been available to make comments since releasing her proposal on controversial education reform seems like the proposal is on controversial education, but the original sentence means that the proposal itself is controversial
D have not been available for comment since releasing her controversial education reform proposal
E has not been available to make comments since the release of her proposal on controversial reform in education wordy plus to make is redundant
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Re: MOdifier [#permalink] New post 22 Sep 2012, 13:21
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The governor’s team of advisors, including her education and political strategists, has not been available for comment since the release of her controversial education reform proposal.

A has not been available for comment since the release of her controversial education reform proposal correct Sub-verb usage
B have not been available for comment since the governor released her controversial education reform proposal Singular collective noun team will have a singular verb
C has not been available to make comments since releasing her proposal on controversial education reform seems like the proposal is on controversial education, but the original sentence means that the proposal itself is controversial
D have not been available for comment since releasing her controversial education reform proposal
E has not been available to make comments since the release of her proposal on controversial reform in education wordy plus to make is redundant


Thanks for the answer in a very concise i am not sure whether use of "to make" call s for redundancy.....
If you can clear my doubt on the point that what should be placed next to release proposal or controversial edu......I think its the proposal that is being released hence that should be placed next to release
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Re: MOdifier [#permalink] New post 23 Sep 2012, 06:59
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There is no requirement to use prepositions to make the sentence wordy.

For eg. prince sat on a gold throne OR prince sat on the throne of gold.

Sentence one is preferable, the structure S + V + ADJ + NOUN preferred over S + V + NOUN + prepositional phrase.

I hope that is fine


That was really good and simplest way to explain
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Re: MOdifier [#permalink] New post 23 Sep 2012, 08:29
Things can get subtle on GMAT. An interesting "change in meaning" of the original sentence occurs in C:

...since releasing her proposal on controversial education reform.

This seems to suggest as if The governor’s team of advisors released the proposal. There is nothing in the original sentence to suggest this.
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Re: MOdifier [#permalink] New post 23 Sep 2012, 10:11
The governor’s team of advisors, including her education and political strategists, has not been available for comment since the release of her controversial education reform proposal.

Can someone explain to whom highlighted her refer to? Is it governor? (but it is not in the sentence or the meaning is implied?)
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Re: MOdifier [#permalink] New post 23 Sep 2012, 10:42
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The governor’s team of advisors, including her education and political strategists, has not been available for comment since the release of her controversial education reform proposal.

Can someone explain to whom highlighted her refer to? Is it governor? (but it is not in the sentence or the meaning is implied?)


Yes, her refers to governor. Since her is a possessive pronoun it can refer to possessive governor's
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Re: The governor s team of advisors, including her education and [#permalink] New post 16 Feb 2013, 11:51
Hi guys,

I have seen this question on manhattan gmat and even though I got the correct answer but still was not really convinced by the use of the pronoun "her" to refer to the governor who is only present in the possessive "the governor's team". I also read this topic about this sentence where some people seem to believe it is a wrong usage :
http://gmatclub.com/forum/the-governors-team-of-advisors-including-her-education-and-75712.html?hilit=The%20governor%E2%80%99s%20team%20of%20advisors


Please can somebody convincingly give the final word on whether a pronouns which refers to an antecedent in the possessive form are accepted by the GMAT or not ? Thanks a lot!
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Re: MOdifier [#permalink] New post 16 Feb 2013, 13:15
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adineo wrote:
The governor’s team of advisors, including her education and political strategists, has not been available for comment since the release of her controversial education reform proposal.

A has not been available for comment since the release of her controversial education reform proposal correct Sub-verb usage
B have not been available for comment since the governor released her controversial education reform proposal Singular collective noun team will have a singular verb
C has not been available to make comments since releasing her proposal on controversial education reform seems like the proposal is on controversial education, but the original sentence means that the proposal itself is controversial
D have not been available for comment since releasing her controversial education reform proposal
E has not been available to make comments since the release of her proposal on controversial reform in education wordy plus to make is redundant


Thanks for the answer in a very concise i am not sure whether use of "to make" call s for redundancy.....
If you can clear my doubt on the point that what should be placed next to release proposal or controversial edu......I think its the proposal that is being released hence that should be placed next to release


E is wrong because of the incorrect placement of the word CONTROVERSIAL, which wrongly seems to suggest that the edn reform was controversial in contrast to the intended meaning, as per stimulus,........the proposal per se was controversial.
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Re: The governor s team of advisors, including her education and [#permalink] New post 16 Feb 2013, 23:21
please help me u'stand how the usage 'has not been able for comment' is a correct usage
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Re: The governor s team of advisors, including her education and [#permalink] New post 16 Feb 2013, 23:40
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please help me u'stand how the usage 'has not been able for comment' is a correct usage


Hi ramanujanu,

I agree with you that it is not a very elegant way of expressing the thought. But, the usage, though it may sound awkward is correct. It is not very frequently used in normal written and oral communication.

I got the following example from the net in which "for comment" is used correctly.

Immigration Law Expert Available for Comment on Senators’ Proposal to Overhaul Immigration Laws.

Moreover, choice (A) in the original sentence is the only one that does not contain other apparent grammatical or meaning based errors.

Bottomline: "for comment" is correct.

Tip: before considering the idiomatic usage you should try to eliminate the answer choices based on contextual meaning and grammar.

Hope that helps,

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