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The Immigration Service now has the discretionary power to keep families united even though all their members do not meet the five-year residency requirement.

(A) all their members do not meet the five-year residency requirement

(B) not all their members meet the five-year residency requirement

(C) all their members have not met the requirement for a five-year residency

(D) not all their members have resided for five years, a requirement

(E) all their members have not resided for five years, as required


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The Immigration Service now has the discretionary power to keep families united even though all their members do not meet the five-year residency requirement.

(A) all their members do not meet the five-year residency requirement

(B) not all their members meet the five-year residency requirement

(C) all their members have not met the requirement for a five-year residency

(D) not all their members have resided for five years, a requirement

(E) all their members have not resided for five years, as required


Any takers? I need explaination as well.

Thanks in advance

Clearly the non underlined portion is in present perfect tense hence underlined portion should be in present tense. So A and B are the only choices possible. A has a meaning issue here. Hence I will pick B. A means that all member have not met the requirements. B means some have and some haven't.


IMO B

Would love to know wht others think
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This sentence is a genear statement so auxilliary very do fit best than have . C,D and E are out. Out of A and B , A is the best fit since even though is followed by subject
She left him, even though she still loved him
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technocrat wrote:
The Immigration Service now has the discretionary power to keep families united even though all their members do not meet the five-year residency requirement.

(A) all their members do not meet the five-year residency requirement

(B) not all their members meet the five-year residency requirement

(C) all their members have not met the requirement for a five-year residency

(D) not all their members have resided for five years, a requirement

(E) all their members have not resided for five years, as required


Any takers? I need explaination as well.

Thanks in advance

Clearly the non underlined portion is in present perfect tense hence underlined portion should be in present tense. So A and B are the only choices possible. A has a meaning issue here. Hence I will pick B. A means that all member have not met the requirements. B means some have and some haven't.


IMO B

Would love to know wht others think


OA is B
For the same meaning issue, I chose A, I thought A means some have met and some have not, and B means all member have not met, since not is followed by subject, emphasis is on 'not'.
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hibloom wrote:
technocrat wrote:
The Immigration Service now has the discretionary power to keep families united even though all their members do not meet the five-year residency requirement.

(A) all their members do not meet the five-year residency requirement

(B) not all their members meet the five-year residency requirement

(C) all their members have not met the requirement for a five-year residency

(D) not all their members have resided for five years, a requirement

(E) all their members have not resided for five years, as required


Any takers? I need explaination as well.

Thanks in advance

Clearly the non underlined portion is in present perfect tense hence underlined portion should be in present tense. So A and B are the only choices possible. A has a meaning issue here. Hence I will pick B. A means that all member have not met the requirements. B means some have and some haven't.


IMO B

Would love to know wht others think


OA is B
For the same meaning issue, I chose A, I thought A means some have met and some have not, and B means all member have not met, since not is followed by subject, emphasis is on 'not'.



Whew! Great Q!

IMO, Not all = some or at least 1

But to me the real problem is what makes any one think that Immigration services will reject if all of them do not meet the five year requirement. As absurd as it may sound, but there is nothing wrong when it has discretionary powers.

Tricky one! I guess one more GMAT'ism.
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Good question. B.
The "even though" part requires "not all" the members to follow. Doesn't make sense to say "even though all don't have the 5 year residency requirement"
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For me "even though" should be followed by not all, thus B or D should be the correct answer, then D is quite akward, so B is correct.
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Tough one, I chose B.

The Immigration Service now has the discretionary power to keep families united even though (B) not all their members meet the five-year residency requirement.

Two things stood out to me. First, even though/not all. Second, there is a difference in meaning between not all their members and all their members do not. If all their members do not, then no one in the family has met the residence requirement. In that case, no one has standing to remain the the country.

D is right out because a requirement is a fragment. I think it would be right if it were a which- clause.
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The Immigration Service now has the discretionary power to keep families united even though all their members do not meet the five-year residency requirement.

(A) all their members do not meet the five-year residency requirement - > Meaning distorted. (all members do not meet ,means no one has met.)

(B) not all their members meet the five-year residency requirement - > correct ans

(C) all their members have not met the requirement for a five-year residency -> Tense error(as it is fact, simple present preferred). Meaning distorted. (all members do not meet ,means no one has met.)

(D) not all their members have resided for five years, a requirement - > Tense error(as it is fact, simple present preferred).

(E) all their members have not resided for five years, as required -> Tense error(as it is fact, simple present preferred). Meaning distorted.
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The Immigration Service now has the discretionary power to keep families united even though all their members do not meet the five-year residency requirement.

(A) all their members do not meet the five-year residency requirement

(B) not all their members meet the five-year residency requirement

(C) all their members have not met the requirement for a five-year residency

(D) not all their members have resided for five years, a requirement

(E) all their members have not resided for five years, as required


Any takers? I need explaination as well.

Thanks in advance


I think the original question should read all ITS members instead of all THEIR members, but anyways answer is cleraly B because of diction

Ooops, take that back brother

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"their" is fine; their=families'.
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Steinbeck ,
Sentence Correction is not only about grammer but also about meaning . Immigration Service has the authority to keep families together however some memebrs may not have completed the mandatory requirement .
We can see a 3:2 split here.
Correct Sentence should start with not . Only Option B and D do so .
Between B and D look at the last part :
meet the five-year residency requirement vs resided for five years, a requirement
B is the right choice.
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manishkhare wrote:
Steinbeck ,
Sentence Correction is not only about grammer but also about meaning . Immigration Service has the authority to keep families together however some memebrs may not have completed the mandatory requirement .
We can see a 3:2 split here.
Correct Sentence should start with not . Only Option B and D do so .
Between B and D look at the last part :
meet the five-year residency requirement vs resided for five years, a requirement
B is the right choice.


Thanks manishkhare

Yes it's not only about GRAMMAR :-D

I think there is a meaning issue that I have located. Please let me know if I am correct in locating that.

The Immigration Service now has the discretionary power to keep families united even though all their members do not meet the five-year residency requirement.

(A) all their members do not meet the five-year residency requirement
This means that all the members in the family did not meet the 5 year residency requirement
(B) not all their members meet the five-year residency requirement
This means that not all but some of the family members met the requirement. This looks logical and conveys the meaning clearly
(C) all their members have not met the requirement for a five-year residency
(D) not all their members have resided for five years, a requirement
(E) all their members have not resided for five years, as required

So, my pick is B
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Engr2012 wrote:
Steinbeck wrote:
manishkhare -

Sorry that I tag you almost everywhere, but there is no one available on these good old dusty threads. If you can help me explain choice A and B. The difference s from meaning perspective, so thought I should bug you.

Thanks


You can ask the experts VeritasPrepKarishma, mikemcgarry, egmat for your doubts in the verbal sections.


Thanks Engr2012

I'll do that from now onwards.
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